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Orange Blooded [4035]
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NICS Check - know what that is?
Jun 13, 2016, 9:42 PM
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It's the background check you do when you buy a gun. I was a buyer in the business for about 12 years.
You fill out the forms and there are questions about mental health, citizenship, etc.. There is actually a tricky question that if you just try to check no on everyone, you will be denied.
Once you have filled this out, you call basically call a background agency run by our lovely government. You tell them your FFL number, they deem you relevant and start asking you questions about the applicant. You answer the questions. If the applicant has given their SS# typically it's a quick yes or denial. If they didn't many times there is a "stay" on the applicant meaning they need to do more digging and they have 10 days to do so.
The transfer of a firearm legally is not an easy process and FULL of loop holes and checks and balances.
For all you liberals that have no clue how this works or think we need background checks, guess what......its been going on for two decades. And YES there is a question about mental health.
When Obama says we need tighter restrictions what the f else is he talking about?? It's tight enough as it is. (That's what she said)
Your welcome for the lesson.
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CU Medallion [54011]
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Was this meant for P&R board?
Jun 13, 2016, 10:07 PM
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Only asking cause the pro gun talk in here should be accompanied by a 2nd amendment LBOD.
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Orange Blooded [4035]
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Re: Was this meant for P&R board?
Jun 13, 2016, 10:15 PM
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Yeah. My bad. On mobile.
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CU Medallion [54011]
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Rock Defender [53]
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That's all well and good, but how about sites like this?
Jun 13, 2016, 10:20 PM
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https://www.armslist.com
Private sale exemption will always be tough to track.
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CU Medallion [54011]
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Shouldnt you be focusing on the upcoming basketball season?
Jun 13, 2016, 10:31 PM
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Instead of prolonging this poorly timed political thread?
This is the lunge. I came here for ####, ###, inappropriate jokes, and to get some reprieve from the insanity that is the mange. And here y'all are trying to have real talk when I finally got a night off. Oh well I guess the worlds atrocities refuse to happen on my schedule... even in the lunge sometimes.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Better?
Jun 13, 2016, 10:35 PM
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All-TigerNet [12098]
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Re: Better?
Jun 13, 2016, 10:37 PM
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Sans guns
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Legend [19919]
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Rock Defender [53]
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Whats the difference between Amy Winehouse & Captain Morgan?
Jun 13, 2016, 11:30 PM
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Captain Morgan comes alive when you add coke.
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CU Medallion [54011]
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Too soon bro, too soon.***
Jun 13, 2016, 11:32 PM
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Rock Defender [53]
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How dark do we want to go with these jokes?***
Jun 13, 2016, 11:45 PM
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Legend [19919]
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Rock Defender [53]
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What do Iron Man and Sarah Palin have in common?
Jun 14, 2016, 12:34 AM
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They've both had a Downey Jr inside of them.
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All-TigerNet [12098]
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So a nut job too crazy to be trusted with a gun
Jun 13, 2016, 10:34 PM
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Can be trusted not to lie on a form? Most mental health records have not yet been digitized so the gov't official on the other end of that phone call has no way of knowing if the person applying is unstable or not.
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CU Medallion [50635]
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many doctors won't report nuts-afraid of hippa laws***
Jun 13, 2016, 10:37 PM
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Here's what Obama's been talking about.
Jun 13, 2016, 10:46 PM
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The plan does not include any new regulations, or an executive order. Rather, Obama has directed the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to “clarify” that anyone “engaged in the business” of selling firearms — even if the seller operates over the Internet or at gun shows — must get a license and conduct background checks.
In other words, Obama said, “It’s not where you do it, but what you do.”
And, Obama warned, those who “engage in the business” of selling firearms via the Internet or at gun shows but do not obtain a license and subject buyers to background checks will be federally prosecuted. A person who “willfully engages in the business of dealing in firearms without the required license is subject to criminal prosecution and can be sentenced up to five years in prison and fined up to $250,000,” the White House warned.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/01/sorting-out-obamas-gun-proposal/
You're welcome for the lesson.
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Orange Blooded [4035]
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Re: Here's what Obama's been talking about.
Jun 13, 2016, 10:52 PM
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Whoa whoa whoa. Slow down trigger.
If I sell you a gun over the Internet, we have to transfer it through an FFL and go through NICS. If you are not doing that, you are breaking the law.
Your welcome for the lesson.
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Rock Defender [53]
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For a private sale in South Carolina, no background check
Jun 13, 2016, 11:03 PM
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is required.
Seems like firearms dealers are at a disadvantage to private sellers in that regard. Not as many customers.
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Orange Blooded [4035]
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Re: For a private sale in South Carolina, no background check
Jun 14, 2016, 1:10 AM
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Exactly. The problem is it's illegal to do a straw purchase. So let's say I sell you a gun without going through an FFL dealer and you shoot someone. I am liable as the registered owner. Simple as that.
The purpose of transferring through an FFL is to claim ownership. This you are not responsible for the death/manslaughter.
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CU Medallion [56087]
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Obama's plan would affect private sellers.
Jun 13, 2016, 11:15 PM
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According to current law, those “engaged in the business” of firearms dealing are required to be federally licensed, and must then subject buyers to background checks. But the law exempts any person “who makes occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms.”
In moving to crackdown on Internet sales, Obama is acting on the belief that too many sellers engaged in the business of selling firearms are purporting to be private sellers in order to avoid the need to be licensed (and in turn be required to obtain background checks).
You're welcome for the lesson.
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Like anything else, who's going to enforce it?
Jun 13, 2016, 11:24 PM
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On any given Sat in SC you can go to just about any flea market and if you talk to the right guy long enough to where he thinks he can trust you you can buy guns cash on the barrel head no names no questions asked. I'm guessing that's pretty true in NC and Ga too. They can't keep the obvious counterfeit merch out of flea markets, they won't stop guns either. I'm sure the local sheriff will make a sweep in an election year, but day to day it's wide open.
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yes, I know
Jun 14, 2016, 12:39 AM
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I filled it out when I bought a gun. Does being on the terror watch list preclude you from having a gun? No? It doesn't? Well that seems a little strange.
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Orange Blooded [4035]
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Re: yes, I know
Jun 14, 2016, 1:13 AM
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I theory it should. You can't provide an SS# or a steady address, you can't get a gun.
So let's say you are a terrorist at a gun show. You buy a used gun. Well that gun is registered To someone. If you commit mirder with that gun, the registered owner is the culpable part of the equation. No hard tounder stand.
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All-In [49046]
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Why would someone on the terror watch list
Jun 14, 2016, 11:08 AM
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not have a registered address or SS#?
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Wait, my welcome or your welcome?***
Jun 14, 2016, 11:29 AM
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