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So, let's see, how does this work and which way will it go..
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 1:36 PM
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from here?
"Continuing to pursue unsubstantiated claims of widespread voter fraud, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz and some of his fellow GOP senators announced they would vote to reject the certification of Electoral College votes for the presidential election unless an emergency audit is conducted.
In a joint statement released Saturday, Cruz and the other senators cited “unprecedented allegations of voter fraud, violations and lax enforcement of election law” to back their vow to object to the certification vote set for Wednesday. Republican claims of election fraud in swing states have been discredited with election officials and U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr saying there was no evidence of widespread fraud that could have swayed the results of the presidential election.
The senators, led by Cruz, called on the appointment of an Electoral Commission to conduct a 10-day audit of the election results in “disputed states.” The statement does not list which states should be included, nor does it mention any specific cases of fraud.
"We are not naïve. We fully expect most if not all Democrats, and perhaps more than a few Republicans, to vote otherwise,” the statement reads. “But support of election integrity should not be a partisan issue.”
Joining Cruz in issuing the statement were Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, James Lankford of Oklahoma, Steve Daines of Montana, John Kennedy of Louisiana, Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee and Mike Braun of Indiana, along with Sens.-Elect Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming, Roger Marshall of Kansas, Bill Hagerty of Tennessee and Tommy Tuberville of Alabama."
https://www.click2houston.com/news/texas/2021/01/02/ted-cruz-says-####-vote-against-certification-of-electoral-college-votes-that-will-make-joe-bidens-victory-official/
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Oculus Spirit [78121]
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I wish I could go to Georgia and vote Dem.
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 1:39 PM
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I will never vote for a ####### republican again.
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All-In [69598]
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I understand people who have never lived in GA are voting.
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 2:14 PM
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I imagine you could apply for a mailin ballot and Stacy Abrams would fedx one to you tonight.
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Heisman Winner [106673]
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Didn't picture you for extreme socialism
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 2:40 PM
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lol
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Oculus Spirit [78121]
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Just tired of this crap they are pulling to try to change
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 3:24 PM
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the election. I consider this acts of treason and an attempt to overthrow our government.
Seriously.
HE LOST, LIVE WITH IT.
Never voted for a Dem president before but will never not vote for one again.
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Heisman Winner [106673]
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It's a very small minority of pubs that feel election was
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 3:41 PM
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stolen, or whatever. The media likes to make it seem like all.
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Oculus Spirit [78121]
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Would love to see some real leaders do what should be done
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 3:53 PM
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and stand up to this crap.
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Re: Would love to see some real leaders do what should be done
Posted: Jan 3, 2021, 12:49 PM
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Biden needs to stand aside if he is not willing to prosecute ALL of Trump's enablers and sycophants. I think he will though because he knows how bad the situation really is currently and for the last four years. Treason and/or sedition is criminal and could carry the death penalty and/or a long imprisonment.
JUSTICE MUST PREVAIL OR ALL IS LOST!!
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All-In [69598]
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Not so fast, my friend.
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 4:04 PM
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"Reuters/Ipsos polling..." not exactly a right wing publication... "tragically, shows that 39% of Americans believe ‘the election was rigged.’ That belief is held by Republicans (67%), Democrats (17%), and Independents (31%)..."
I ran those numbers through a dominion machine so 67% pubs plus 17% dems plus 31% indies equals 115% of Americans by dominion calculations. Of course that included the polling of thousands of dead people, many who are here illegally and hundreds who live in China.
Actually, those numbers really were reported by Reuteer/Ipsos polling. So it's a few more than a handful of maroons like me. I'm guessing the dems and indies who said they believe the election was rigged probably voted for Trump. He had the greatest support of minority voters than any republican in 60 years, or so I've read.
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Legend [15018]
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"small minority." I saw reports stating 150+ republicans
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 4:26 PM
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in the House and at least 11 Senators are going or are on record as rejecting the election results and a majority of Republican voters polled think the election was "stolen." If that's not worrisome to you then I'm scared to think about how much further they could go before you would be worried.
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Heisman Winner [106673]
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It's not worrisome to me. It's stupid political theater.***
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 4:28 PM
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Legend [15018]
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...for now that's all it is.
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 4:31 PM
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But even that's all it is think about what that says about the Republican party as it is now and the future of the party and then think about why it might be that some conservatives have real issues with it.
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All-In [69598]
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You forget I believe the election was fraudulent.
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 5:01 PM
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My only concern was that they didn't have the hair on their butts to stand up to the fraudsters. I believe that you 'know in your heart that the election was fair.' I understand. If, and I specify if, this turned out to be wrong would it be the first time you were misled by the media?
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Heisman Winner [106673]
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When dems lose, it's voter suppression.
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 5:11 PM
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When Pubs lose, it's fraud. Got it.
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Standout [338]
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The big bad “Media” isn’t misleading people. They are
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Posted: Jan 3, 2021, 8:23 AM
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correctly reporting that there is no evidence of widespread fraud, which is backed up by election officials, secretary of states, courts all over the country, our attorney general, etc.
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All-In [69598]
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I recognize that you believe that.
Posted: Jan 3, 2021, 1:19 PM
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What you should recognize is that ~140 representatives in the US House, a dozen US Senators and the Vice President of the US take the opposite opinion.
So I ask, after investigating Trump for four solid years why does investigating election fraud so upset you, or better asked, what do you think can be done to stop this?
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Standout [338]
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Nothing upsets me about it. They have investigated it.
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Posted: Jan 3, 2021, 7:32 PM
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And they found nothing credible. Which is what the media reported. If widespread fraud is found (spoiler alert: it won’t be), then the media will report that too. The only fraud is Trump trying to bully the GA Secretary of State into fabricating results.
You’re a sucker and a moron.
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And the only reason you do
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Posted: Jan 3, 2021, 1:30 PM
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Is because Trump and your fringe right wing media claim it was fraudulent, and you've pretty much admitted you'll blindly believe whatever they say.
Before the election, you said you would accept the results regardless. You lied.
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All-In [69598]
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No, that is not a true statement.
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Posted: Jan 3, 2021, 1:43 PM
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I have watched all the hearings in GA and AZ and I have reviewed every piece of evidence available to the public and have based my opinion on the evidence. You can say what you want but I have seen election and voter fraud on video. I have heard the testimonies of dozens of witnesses which I find credible.
I believe that 140 house members, a dozen or so senators and the VP have too. I believe you will never change your position but will, just as you did when Mueller said 'we found no evidence that any American conspired with Russia,' continue to ignore the obvious.
Will you be watching on Jan 6th to see what happens when the Senate and House join in session or not?
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Yes, it is. You haven't observed or provided evidence.
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Posted: Jan 3, 2021, 7:16 PM
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You've provided rumors and conjecture and wild accusations made by people who aren't even running the elections.
You said you would accept the results whatever the results happened to be. You lied. I'll post the link again if you make me.
On Jan. 6th, the votes will confirm Biden as the next president. Which he is. The only reason you still stick to this now is you realize you'll look more foolish if you admit you were wrong. You will harp on this conspiracy for the next four years.
Bet me on that last sentence.
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All-In [45586]
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Re: It's a very small minority of pubs that feel election was
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:01 PM
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Yeah only close over 70%. Such a small group.
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Heisman Winner [106673]
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BS
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:03 PM
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Every Pub I know, knows that Trump lost.
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Re: BS
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:06 PM
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Great, but in polling close to 80% think that there was election fraud that hurt Trump. So there's that. A huge group morons. That's why they support that fraud.
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Heisman Winner [106673]
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There's always some fraud in every election.
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:07 PM
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None major. Do you believe there's not?
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All-In [45586]
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Re: There's always some fraud in every election.
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:11 PM
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Sure, but they think it is a factor. By the way, I guarantee I know more people than you know and have a bigger sample size. The moronic beliefs of Trump supporters runs deep. You're clueless on this one.
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Heisman Winner [106673]
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Nah, i think you are.
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:12 PM
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I live in a big city.
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Re: Nah, i think you are.
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:18 PM
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I know a lot of people all over the world and the USA. I am from everywhere. Believe me , you're clueless. Juts pipe down and drink your craft beer. You're a simpleton.
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Heisman Winner [106673]
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If you know a lot of Trump fanatics...
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:19 PM
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maybe it's you. Why are you resorting to personal attacks? simpleton
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All-In [45586]
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Re: If you know a lot of Trump fanatics...
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:25 PM
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Nah, but I am just around. They are common. Just be clueless and move on. Trump fanatic are very common. If you don't that it's all good. They are very common. I feel like I am talking to a naive child.
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Heisman Winner [106673]
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They are common if you live in the sticks.***
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:26 PM
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Re: They are common if you live in the sticks.***
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:30 PM
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Dude. You're dumber than dirt. No, bud, it's common and all over the country even in major cities.
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Heisman Winner [106673]
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You're a politico fool
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:38 PM
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Trump still has your panties in a wad after losing.
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All-In [45586]
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Re: You're a politico fool***
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:45 PM
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Actually I am the polar opposite. I am just alive and know the basics. You're just way too stupid to even understand the very basics. You have to be the dumbest guy who posts here. Yes, I am aware of basic politics. You're just dumber than dirt and don't know even the basics. These are not exactly normal times. More Americans believe in conspiracies than any time in modern history. Trump was was/is a phenomenon.
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Heisman Winner [106673]
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Your panties are in a huge wad.
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:48 PM
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and you're a P***Y personal attacker on the internet.
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110%er [9364]
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Political theater = Nap time. Doesn’t even warrants popcorn.***
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 1:46 PM
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“unprecedented allegations" is careful wording.
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 1:48 PM
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"unprecedented evidence of" would mean more, but they can't say that. This is the same as the House Pubs planned vote. Short term personal political gain by pandering to Trump's base, with no chance of any other significant result.
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All-In [69598]
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Maybe nothing will come of this.
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 2:18 PM
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However, if as some reports claim, the house selects the president via one vote per state and the senate selects the VP more than something may come of it.
Imo, anyone continuing to think nothing will come of this might be zoned in on some false understanding. I welcome any education you might offer to contradict my understanding. Edify me.
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110%er [8037]
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Self-fulfilling prophecy at work. We are going to scream and
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Posted: Jan 3, 2021, 1:19 PM
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shout about all of these allegations, in unprecedented fashion, therefore there are "unprecedented allegations" at hand and we can't just sit back with all that going on.
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It should result in charges of sedition for these Senators***
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 2:18 PM
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Re: It should result in charges of sedition for these Senators***
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 2:20 PM
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I don't recall dems being charged with sedition for doing the same thing during the voting on the last 3 pub presidents.
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Re: It should result in charges of sedition for these Senators***
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 3:21 PM
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Biden basically laughed at and dismissed each objection immediately. Do you expect the same from Pence? The dismissing part, I realize he is fundamentally incapable of laughter.
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Re: It should result in charges of sedition for these Senators***
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 4:07 PM
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Did they notify him in writing? I'm sure there has to be a paper trail on any congressional activities. Perhaps someone here who knows law should fill us in on the details.
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Re: It should result in charges of sedition for these Senators***
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 4:23 PM
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I'm not sure what notifying him in writing has to do with anything.
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Re: It should result in charges of sedition for these Senators***
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 4:25 PM
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I'm hearing up to 160 house republicans are on board with rejecting ballots in the states we've been arguing about for two months now. Reckon the VP will laugh that off?
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Re: It should result in charges of sedition for these Senators***
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 4:28 PM
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I would hope so since they didn't even bother to name a specific State let alone provide specific examples.
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Fast forward 6 months
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 4:49 PM
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Joe Biden is president and everything is relatively normal again.
'88 is still gonna be talking to us about how close Trump is to having the election overturned.
Sad. I hate to see the mental deterioration of long-time good T-net members.
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Orange Blooded [4193]
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I can't talk.
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 4:54 PM
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I've dated my fair share of red heads even though I knew they were crazy.
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All-In [69598]
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Actually, most of the redheads I dated were more sane than..
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 5:04 PM
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most of the blondes and brunettes I dated.
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Re: It should result in charges of sedition for these Senators***
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 4:56 PM
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They have the receipts for AZ, WI, PA, MI, MN and GA. Rudy Giuliani's team is turning the data over to them today, according to Giuliani.
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Re: It should result in charges of sedition for these Senators***
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Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:03 PM
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Accorsing to Giualiani . Hahahahaha. What a clown. Here is what happens. Nothing
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Orange Blooded [4193]
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Have you seen anything Giuliani has done recently?
Posted: Jan 2, 2021, 7:43 PM
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Puts hand down pants and adjusts mic motion
Puts hand down pants and adjusts mic motion
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“But Trump’s team says so!” is not exactly a credible source
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Posted: Jan 3, 2021, 8:26 AM
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hahaha. You’re a sucker and a moron.
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So, so disappointed.
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Posted: Jan 3, 2021, 3:30 PM
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Thankful that Senator Scott is not (yet) in this number. It would be disqualifying, to me, and I very much look forward to voting for him for Senate or President in the future.
How these Republicans have strayed so, so far from Constitutional conservatism is baffling. All because of one man. This is devastating for the future of conservatism in this country. And this was my worst fear of a Trump presidency. He is dragging conservatives down with him.
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Re: So, so disappointed.
Posted: Jan 3, 2021, 10:18 PM
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This moment has been coming for years, man. All the dogwhistles that Republicans have used for decades, the sowing of distrust of the media, the climbing in bed with charlatans like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, have all been steps along the path to someone like Trump leading the Republican Party. Yet you said just a couple of weeks ago that you would continue voting for Republicans.
This is your wake-up call. The Republican Party is now the party of Trump, and there's no turning back. Your support for the party means you endorse what they're doing right now.
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I don't support the party, never have.
Posted: Jan 4, 2021, 5:45 AM
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I vote for individuals, regardless of party. It's just that usually those individuals are Republicans, and likely will be going forward, unless a lot of Democrats start to rise against the murder of the unborn.
I will not be voting for anyone who goes along with this "election fraud" fiasco. On an individual basis, I will continue to evaluate the candidates to determine if I vote for them.
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