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TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 12:55 PM
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Hall of Famer [8577]
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He should be concerned about what FSU is doing there....
Nov 23, 2020, 12:59 PM
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Just saying....
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Re: He should be concerned about what FSU is doing there....
Nov 23, 2020, 4:41 PM
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Meh.....he’s standing up for the spear. What’s he supposed to say?.....my administrate a bunch of tools?......the truth is that the protocol was put in place and the went against it. I’m not buying the medical pro said this or that...... not for one second. No school in the ACC has done what they did. We’re all following the same guidelines.....here’s to hanging 100 on em when we play.....if we play.
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I did not criticize what he said....
Nov 23, 2020, 5:36 PM
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I really don't expect a new coach to say much against the school, admins, or program.
But, there is much to be concerned about AT FSU.
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Re: He should be concerned about what FSU is doing there....
Nov 23, 2020, 4:57 PM
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Forget Norvell, he didn’t call the game off, and we are done with Florida State in 2020! Next year!
The ACC should cancel the Clemson vs FSU AND the Miami vs GA Tech Games. They are meaningless for the ACC and to the ranked teams involved! The games can only hurt the conferences’s chance of lining up 3 Top 10 teams in Major Bowl games. Look at the other conferences! We end up with 10 games without FSU....
The ACC has played far more games than other Power 5 Conferences! Miami and Clemson don’t deserve or need meaningless game on December 12 going into the Bowl season. Let both teams get prepared for bowl games.
We (ACC) already have the LONGEST Power 5 schedule (started in September). Move on......
Plus, FSU’s administration is looking out for their teams health, and avoiding a big A$$ Whoopin’ is in their best interest. They have turned FSU into a Dumpster Fire ?? that rivals the coots! We get them both next year!
Go Tigers, Beat Pitt! Get focused!!
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Rival Killer [2863]
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How is Clemson - FSU meaningless? Or Miami - GT?
Nov 23, 2020, 10:42 PM
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Lose that and Miami (probably) takes our spot in the ACCCG. So for that reason Miami - GT isn’t meaningless either.
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 1:00 PM
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"I’m not concerned about what any other coach says or thinks. I’m focused on what we’re doing here."
I wonder if he means he is focusing on figuring out why his administration made his program look scared to show up and play.
Honestly any head football coach has to be overflowing with competitiveness.
He is likely furious with his administration and almost as mad that he can't say a word about it.
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 3:05 PM
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Considering he already got it from his own team's actions and those around him I don't think he has much of a case to make in being afraid of getting it from us!
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Norvell has a very punchable face***
Nov 23, 2020, 1:00 PM
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Re: Norvell has a very punchable face***
Nov 23, 2020, 1:01 PM
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It was worse when he had the cornrows.
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Re: Norvell has a very punchable face***
Nov 23, 2020, 1:07 PM
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It was worse when he had the cornrows.
Cornrows?
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Re: Norvell has a very punchable face***
Nov 23, 2020, 1:49 PM
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Lol
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 1:03 PM
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He kept his team from getting a major butt whipping. FSU has sunk to a new low. Cowards
Maybe they will become a women’s sports school like the coots.
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 1:08 PM
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Maybe they should return to being an all girls school like they were when it was first founded.
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Hey, hey . . . Stop with the cheap shots at wimmenz!!!
Nov 23, 2020, 5:34 PM
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‘cause me and LbB likes wimmenz!!!!!!!
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 1:29 PM
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I actually truly believe two things here. First I believe that coach Novell wasn't involved in the decision to play or not. Second, I believe him when he says that he wanted to play the game, and that his young team needs all the reps they can get. I think he's shown a sign of being willing to build for the future by playing so many young players this season. Not that he doesn't want to win games, but I think he's shown that he's more worried about getting as many reps for his younger players this season than he is about wins and losses.
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Don't recall those"medical professionals" shutting down
Nov 23, 2020, 1:15 PM
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the FSU team after Norvell tested positive... Their precedent reveals the BS...
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Re: Don't recall those"medical professionals" shutting down
Nov 23, 2020, 1:26 PM
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They had a bye week the week he tested positive. They didn't have a game until 8 days after. I agreed the game should have been played this past Saturday, but the two situations aren't the same.
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Did they shut down practice...? The answer is NO... BS!!!***
Nov 23, 2020, 1:34 PM
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 1:25 PM
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One more time, if the wording in the ACC COVID protocols allows decisions to be in the hands of medical professionals there is no issue here and it really does not matter what either coach or AD says. If the wording does not allow that, the ACC should determine the fate of the game and everyone can move on. Pretty simple isn't it?
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 1:38 PM
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If “ifs” and “buts” were candy and nuts...
The inconsistency here tells you it was not done per established medical protocol. Dabo explaine in clear, plain English. No ambiguity.
There have been plenty of other teams and times when players had symptoms but had not tested positive until Friday night after they were traveling ... then their Friday night test returned positive or negative and if positive, the teams still played while the player was sent back home.
This was no different. The only difference was FSU wanted to change the rules. Simple as that.
And it cost Clemson a lot of $ and Clemson fans who travelled a lot of $. Time for that to NOT be rewarded or excused!
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 2:05 PM
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That is a joke because the game was not forfeited and will still apparently be played Blame COVID, blame China, blame Trump, blame who you want but if there is no forfeit, you cannot blame FSU.
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 5:45 PM
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As long as FSU either pays for the lost game costs to Clemson or plays it at Clemson, it has zero to do with COVID. Covid procedures were adhered to and satisfied. If you think otherwise, you are either an idiot or a coot... probably both. ??
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 6:07 PM
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Facts! But he will just make up his own.
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 1:39 PM
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The one problem with your assessment is that you are leaving out that those medical professionals are supposed to use the data gathered by both teams to make their decision.
They are given a set of guidelines to determine how to react to the data.
FSU's decision in no way was a reflection of the data they received. It also does not line up with previous decisions they have made this season when Pitt had players ruled out based on their Friday test and FSU played them the following day.
Calling them "medical professionals" does not make them infallible.
Either they screwed up big time on this decision, or they had instructions to find a reason to cancel the game.
You decide which.
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 5:49 PM
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We offered to play Sunday or Monday... to allow for more tests... they ran away scared of getting a beat down. Had nothing to do with COVID. Pay us the costs we incurred and forfeit or get your ### to Death Valley to suck it up!
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 6:03 PM
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The one problem with your assessment is that you are leaving out that those medical professionals are supposed to use the data gathered by both teams to make their decision.
They are given a set of guidelines to determine how to react to the data.
FSU's decision in no way was a reflection of the data they received. It also does not line up with previous decisions they have made this season when Pitt had players ruled out based on their Friday test and FSU played them the following day.
Calling them "medical professionals" does not make them infallible.
Either they screwed up big time on this decision, or they had instructions to find a reason to cancel the game.
You decide which.
Very well said! This is it right here! All the discussion. All the talk; summed up here by TigersO perfect!
They either are not consistent(wrong) or they made a bad decision not based on data( wrong )! At the end of the day - they were wrong!
In many situations you look at "common business practice". Or "best practices"! Either way you slice it - their medical team look like idiots! No consistency. Based on all the data they were given there was zero medical reason to have not agreed it was okay to play the game.
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 1:27 PM
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Not sure that I expected him to say anything different. There is concern; however, that he said they were looking at it Friday night but then waited until 3 hours before game time to cancel the game.
You can bet he is being coached by the administration on what to say.
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 1:29 PM
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FSU should reimburse a significant portion of Clemson’s expenses! The stinking ACC commissioner should have stepped in. What’s the point of league protocols if any team can scrap or change them?
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 1:33 PM
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Contributions need to be made.
And FSU needs to not be hypocrites, or disingenuous.
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 1:36 PM
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Norvell is a liar that is already proven, he lied to his players before the season even started that is according to his own players and former players who opted out. Shut the he## up liar!!!!!
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 1:41 PM
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They can’t help financially. Per ESPN article, they seem to be broke.
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What a smarta$$ little punk...
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Nov 23, 2020, 1:59 PM
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Saying he will make a contribution if we need it.
But here’s the good news: FSU will continue to get what they deserve, because this guy is about as useless as Willie Taggart.
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Solid Orange [1327]
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we made it about money
Nov 23, 2020, 2:26 PM
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he put his money where his mouth is
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Okay. I didn’t realize he wrote a check for $300k.
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Nov 23, 2020, 2:44 PM
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I thought he was just running his mouth.
That was nice of him.
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Solid Orange [1327]
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looks a lot better than us complaining about the 300k***
Nov 23, 2020, 3:03 PM
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Clemson Conqueror [11458]
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So you’re worried
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Nov 23, 2020, 3:09 PM
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that fans of other teams who already don’t like us...
don’t like us now?
I’m just trying to figure out the problem with Clemson stating the fact that this b.s. cost us a lot of money. Because it did. And it’s not the only concern Dabo had. He wanted our football team to...ya know...play football.
Do you just have a crush on Norvell or something?
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Re: What a smarta$$ little punk...
Nov 23, 2020, 5:09 PM
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Maybe Mushchump can loan a few travel dollars.
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This is such B.S. from Norvell.
Nov 23, 2020, 2:36 PM
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What issue did the medical “professionals” at FSU have with the ACC COVID protocol? Everything was done according to the rules in place. If they disagreed with the rules, that’s a conversation they should’ve had with the ACC this past summer. Otherwise, it’s assumed they agreed with the rules and were comfortable playing under those conditions.
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Re: This is such B.S. from Norvell.
Nov 23, 2020, 3:29 PM
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We will accept your forfeit with a check (certified 300K) and hold the but wippin till next year!
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The FSU medical advisors should advise that the whole team get checked for cervical cancer***
Nov 23, 2020, 3:02 PM
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 3:15 PM
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I didn't watch the 30 minute plus interview but saw a clip on ESPN where he took another shot saying Coaches aren't Doctors although some think they are. That statement, plus the comment about donating for Clemson's expenses, equals at least a 70+ point a*s*s kicking on the horizon.
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Re: Maybe, they should just go back to being a wimmin's
Nov 23, 2020, 3:31 PM
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school. "Cause they acting like a bunch of girls.
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What else is going to say....hey my President is a ########?
Nov 23, 2020, 3:37 PM
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Im sure he wanted to play but the coronabro admins make the ultimate call.
If he wants to contribute financially, DRad should send him the full invoice.
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Re: What else is going to say....hey my President is a ########?
Nov 23, 2020, 3:47 PM
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Just like the lame stream media questions of some? Wonder who. Did anyone ask him why they refused to play Sat. night, Sunday, or even Monday. Guess the medical experts played that game too. It's BS an will never go away.
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He'll sign up to send us a $10 personal check?
Nov 23, 2020, 3:43 PM
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Sounds like he means a Go Fund Me project.
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 3:43 PM
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I think we're all made for the same reason, but no one has come out and said it....
We had to start putting up Christmas decorations instead of watching Clemson play football... there, I said it.
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Ok, as for the contribution Norvell,
Nov 23, 2020, 3:50 PM
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We'll take $300,000.
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Deer Norvell
Nov 23, 2020, 4:03 PM
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Had your school followed the protocols, the game would have been played.
Pretty dang simple.
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I thought Norvell did his best to take the high road.....
Nov 23, 2020, 4:03 PM
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I’m a diehard Tiger fan and have hated the Noles as much as anyone - since the day I watched the punt-a-rooskie game as a student.....I have also enjoyed every minute of watching their demise the past few years. All that said, considering all that has transpired over the past 72 hours, I thought Norvell’s comments were about as classy as anyone could muster CONSIDERING he also has a responsibility to respect those around him and above him.
I hope he proves to be a classy coach in the ACC and that he and Dabo can patch things up and move forward on good terms.
I also hope we get to kick the Noles butts on Dec 12!!!! ....and I’d love to see that happen at Doak Campbell just to make it even sweeter for the players!
Go Tigers!!!
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 4:30 PM
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Norvell is full of it!!! What else is Norvell going to say? (remember he works for FSU). FSU will never apologize for what they did. Forgive and forget? He** no!!!
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 4:31 PM
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Hogwash and fiddlesticks
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 5:14 PM
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Doctors don’t get a pass with me based simply on their credentials. Doctors must answer my questions to my complete satisfaction or I walk.
To be brief, I walked around with Cancer for six years because I was misdiagnosed by 3 different Doctors on 3 completely separate visits. Had I had an aggressive cancer, I’d be dead.
Any Doctor that will not answer my questions, will NOT be my Doctor. Assuming a Doctor’s credentials will keep you alive can get you dead.
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 5:52 PM
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FSU has been in free fall for the past five years, ESPN’S story last week on their NCAA main page chronicled their sad story and gave FSU fans no real hope for an immediate turn around. I’m sure FSU administration felt sick about the story and knew a Clemson romp was surely not going to ease the wound that ESPN applied.
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 6:16 PM
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I am sure Norvell is saying just what the administration told him to say all while their silence speaks volumes. Poor soul. Seems like a decent guy in the middle of that toxic culture. Starts out his FSU coaching tenure with his team calling him a liar on social media while threatening to refuse to play. Now the administration has made it perfectly clear they consider that football team an embarrassment by avoiding another blowout by making their own rules. The team has quit on yet another coach!
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 6:51 PM
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Always remember the way a med student that just squeaks by and graduates is still addressed as Doctor.
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Valley Legend [12223]
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 7:15 PM
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Remember, this is the same idiot that had to be lectured by players parents for not testing 3X a week in the pre-season.
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Orange Blooded [2453]
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 7:39 PM
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Game on, Norvell...Game on.
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Rival Killer [2637]
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Re: TNET: FSU’s Norvell responds to Swinney’s comments that game wasn't postponed for COVID
Nov 23, 2020, 8:31 PM
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Clearly not about the protocol as it was followed to the letter.
It is about recruiting. If you don't get stomped then you are not that bad. Being a coward will pass as there is no video. A video beat down in Doak Campbell is forever.
A pyrrhic for coach Norvell. Now he must explain cowardice to recruits and family.
Good Luck
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Tiger Spirit [9137]
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Norvell just signed his team up for the biggest #### whooping in sports history
Nov 23, 2020, 8:50 PM
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His players can thank him later. What a tool.
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