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Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 11:27 AM
 

...talking about? We have won 20 straight games. We are the Defending National Champions and have beaten every team we have faced for over 600 straight days, to include the almighty SEC, BIG 10 and Big 12. We are the program everyone else is trying to emulate.

Why shouldn't we still be #1? I hear everyone saying we don't deserve to be #1. How so? We won yesterday and have been winning for nearly two years. Of course we deserve to be #1.

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 11:29 AM
 

Because teams like Auburn and Georgia are looking better on TV. If we would have played Georgia like we played UNC yesterday we would have lost by 21

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 11:32 AM
 

I understand how it looks on televison. However, we won and will continue to win. At the end of the year Auburn and UGA will both have at least two losses while we are 12-0 playing for a conference championship.

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 11:35 AM
 

If we don't deserve to be #1 then Bama doesn't either. Who have they played? Who has Ohio State played? Who has Oklahoma played. They have faced weak teams as well. Yes, they blow them out, but who at the end of the season all of these teams mentioned will have at least one loss and maybe more.

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 12:28 PM
 

The difference is that Bama, Ohio State, and Oklahoma are demolishing everyone, and none have had any close calls (the closest was Oklahoma's 18 point win against Houston).

Alabama is beating teams by an average score of 52-14. Tua has 23 touchdowns and no picks. Alabama has played Duke, one of the better ACC teams, at South Carolina, and Ole Miss, who has been their kryptonite for years. They have a top 5 offense statistically and their defense is top 15.

Ohio State is beating teams by an average score of 52-9. Fields has 16 touchdowns and no picks. They've got a weak schedule, but Cincinatti is one of the best G5 teams and Nebraska is not a bad team. They have a top 5 offense and defense statistically.

Oklahoma is beating teams by an average score of 56-19. Jalen has 12 touchdowns and 1 pick (one less game than the others). They beat a good Houston and a good Texas Tech. They have the #2 offense statistically and the #50 defense.

Meanwhile:

Clemson is beating teams by an average score of 37-12 with one game against a 2-3 program where they were outcoached and outplayed. Trevor has 8 touchdowns and 5 interceptions (he's not in the top 50 in most statistical categories). Clemson beat A&M, which is looking worse and worse as they got handled by Auburn and almost lost to Arkansas, the worst SEC team. Clemson also beat Syracuse, who lost by 43 to Maryland and struggled against Western Michigan. Clemson has the #22 offense statistically and the #8 defense. There's literally no justification for having Clemson #1 right now.

And I wouldn't have Alabama #1 either. I think Ohio State looks the best right now, but Auburn has the most impressive total resume. Alabama would be 4 or 5 after LSU and Georgia. Clemson would be 7 after those and Oklahoma.


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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 12:33 PM
 

I can promise you Ohio State, Oklahoma and Auburn have not been playing 100+ players in their games and they sure as heck have not been taking their starting QB out of the game after 3 offensive series when they were up big. That is the difference. We could have scored 80 on Charlotte or 60 on Ga Tech. We chose not to do that in order to get some playing time for our 2nd, 3rd and 4th stringers.

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 2:06 PM
 

Did we play 100 players yesterday?

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 2:11 PM
 


Did we play 100 players yesterday?



We couldn't play as many yesterday. Not just because of the score, but because of red shirt implications.

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 5:43 PM
 

Lol. Not because of the score? You people crack me up.


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Scoring 10 more points in blowouts wouldn't change the fact that we had


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 6:10 PM
 

to stop a 2pt conversion in order to avoid a season ending loss. Nobody else at the top has had a close call like that against a middle of the road team.

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 11:35 AM
 

Yea but you and I can cry about what should be all day. While we are at it we can ponder why the world isn’t at peace and children are starving in a nation of plenty. Either way the world works differently and the ACC has a bad rep this year. Now might be a good time to think about why some of us hope for a stronger conference to help prop up against this type of thing. Might not be so silly after all!

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Ponder???

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 11:58 AM
 

Did I hear, "Ponder"???




Finally, someone with some sense of decorum!!!

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 5:26 PM
 

####!

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 11:30 AM
 

Because the ranking is for this years' performance. Clemson should drop in the polls one or two spots. There are other teams that have been more impressive to this point. That's okay. It's the playoffs that count.


Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 11:31 AM
 

Defending national champ and 20 in a row are meaningless. Different teams and different players this year for everyone. Its based on this season. We absolutely do not deserve to be 1 if anyone is being objective.

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That is a garbage argument

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 11:38 AM
 

It doesn’t matter what happened the last 2 years it matters what happened August 29 to now. There are really no metrics that you can point to to justify us being #1 right now. And that might be a good thing for the motivation of this team.


Re: That is a garbage argument


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 11:42 AM
 


It doesn’t matter what happened the last 2 years it matters what happened August 29 to now. There are really no metrics that you can point to to justify us being #1 right now. And that might be a good thing for the motivation of this team.




Okay then, if the only thing that counts is from Auguust 29th until now, lets make App State #1. App State has been blowing out their competition. How about Boise State #1. They are undefeated. Lets make Iowa #1 they are undefeated. What about Memphis? Wake Forest is undefeated.

Why isn't App State on anyone's list for #1?

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Auburn should be #1

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 11:51 AM
 

They have the best wins out of anyone in the country. Probably OSU after that as they’ve been obliterating teams. And UGA after them.


Re: That is a garbage argument


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 11:55 AM
 

App State blowing everyone out? They gave up 41 points to Charlotte and 37 to Coastal. Don’t be silly.

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Clemson isn't even top 15

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 11:56 AM
 

in all time wins. Why would a 2 yr window make them #1.


Re: Clemson isn't even top 15


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 12:00 PM
 

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in all time wins. Why would a 2 yr window make them #1.




Seriously? I am not talking about all time wins. I am saying we were pre-season ranked #1 and we have not lost. We beat everyone we have faced to include a SEC team. Until yest3erday we have routinely played 80-100 players. I just don't believe we have done anything to lose our ranking. Close games happen. All teams will have one this year.

Just my opinion. I am not talking about all time wins,

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Re: Clemson isn't even top 15


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 12:21 PM
 

We were ranked #1 because they thought we’d be the best team. There’s no rule saying the rankings can’t change unless someone losses. Just because someone thought we were the best in the preseason doesn’t mean they have to keep feeling that way after 5 games if we haven’t looked impressive.

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it’s a new season with new players. Prior year

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 11:40 AM
 

shouldn’t mean anything. Take off the orange tinted glasses and remove the current rankings away from every team in Top 10. Now pretend like you have no idea who has won the past championships.

If you honestly do that, do you think we are #1 based on what you have seen this year? No. I would almost argue we may not be a Top 5 team at this point.

However it’s what happens in November. We go undefeated and we are in.


That is exactly what the Committee tells us from week to

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 12:06 PM
 

week. They (supposedly) start with a clean slate each week to put together the rankings, once they start. Now, I don't completely buy that, because the Committee is made up of people, and people have memories. That would be a good thing right now for us. At some point, hopefully next game vs FSU, we have to light the rocket and take off for this year, or be left behind.

I don't honestly believe that an undefeated, defending National Champion Clemson would get left out of the playoff, but this year does look to have an inordinate amount of possible unbeatens by years end. So, we better be one of them, because this would be the year that a one loss ACC Champion could get left out.

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Thats foolishness right there


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 2:14 PM
 

The ACC Champion will not get left out of the CFP, even with 1 loss!

Grow up.


Re: Thats foolishness right there

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 5:03 PM
 

The Pac 12 Champ has made it a selection from the Power 4 by having two losses every year. Sooner or later, they will have one or less, and they will get in over another conference Champion. I don't want us to be equal to them with one loss in that scenario.

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Re: Thats foolishness right there


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 5:09 PM
 

I believe the only team the Pac 12 had in the playoff was a one loss Washington squad a couple of years ago.

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People forget the 1st CFP in 2014. FSU was undefeated, the


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 7:15 PM
 

defending champ, but kept winning "ugly" in the "weak" ACC. They were the only undefeated team going into the final CFP poll, yet were only ranked 3rd!

Now, put us in the scenario of being one of four undefeated teams at year's end, along with a 12-1 Bama! As sure as hail is hot, we would be left out, because of our lackluster wins in the "weak" ACC, and no quality wins!

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 11:46 AM
 

Because last year has nothing to do with this year. We don’t look better than at least 5 teams at this point in the season. That’s an opinion but it’s pretty close to a fact. In the 5 games we have played we our offense has been playing mediocre. We can still get better and kick a$$ in the playoffs but rankings should be based on what we do this year not what we did last year.

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 12:10 PM
 

That's a stupid argument. 15 of those 20 wins came last year. That was a different football team that has no relation to this program. This team is 5-0, but so are some other programs. Other programs who have looked much better against better competition. It's not rocket science.


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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 12:16 PM
 

So, should we have been pre-season ranked #1?

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Yes. As defending National Champs we deserve

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 12:22 PM
 

to be #1.

But as this season has gotten underway, we don’t deserve to remain there at this point. We are really struggling to beat mediocre teams while our competition for #1 is absolutely destroying the same mediocre schedule.

To be honest, I just wish they would do away w pre-season rank. Don’t rank until 5th week of season.


Re: Yes. As defending National Champs we deserve


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 12:34 PM
 

Agreed. There was no reason to think Clemson shouldn't be #1 at the start of the season. They were defending champs, returned everyone from a top 3 offense, and had a lot of talent coming in on defense and a veteran secondary. For some reason, the offense hasn't played to their potential. And if they're not, no reason to stick with your original erroneous conclusion. Right now, Clemson isn't playing like a #1.


Re: Yes. As defending National Champs we deserve


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 12:37 PM
 

The offense isn't the same because, with the exception of yesterday, the starters have barely played into the second half.

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Re: Yes. As defending National Champs we deserve

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 2:17 PM
 

Now this I agree with, while getting our two’s and three’s reps is great, there is a fine line. The one’s needs the reps in order too start clicking. If they keep getting pulled in the first and second qtr then it will surly effect their cohesion as one singular unit. Go Tigers!

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Other programs have looked better, but not generally against


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 7:29 PM
 

better opposition. Most have played worse opposition!

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Maybe being #2 will make ‘em angry +

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 1:31 PM
 

it’ll take a little pressure off.
werk it, tigers!!!


Because we were one miracle away from losing


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 1:54 PM
 

to a mediocre team which just lost to App State.


Re: Because we were one miracle away from losing


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 1:59 PM
 

As opposed to the miracle in beating Syracuse last year?

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Re: Because we were one miracle away from losing


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 5:51 PM
 

Syracuse was a 10 win team last year that finished in the top 20. Good lord man.


Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 2:02 PM
 

Long story short, tattedcop, is new to college football and how it works.

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 2:38 PM
 

Yes Carlsbad, its a beauty contest … and right now Clemson has sloppy makeup, a couple of pimples, and food in her teeth. Easily corrected but still needs to be addressed. As for Clemson playing more scrubs than other teams, there are no playoff votes resulting for playing more benchwarmers. It's a high character move from Coach Swinney which shows his empathy for all contributors & benchwarmers which he once was at Bama. And while it's a high character move, at year end, voters review scores and margins not whether Will Swinney got reps in the 3rd quarter of Div. II level game.

My take is Clemson could absolutely be left out of the playoffs with one loss to a #33 Wake Forest or #19 UVA or lesser teams. Especially against a one-loss Ohio St, Oklahoma, Bama, UGA, LSU, Florida, Auburn or Texas which has lost to a higher ranked team.

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 4:24 PM
 




I admit it is highly unlikely, but we could even go undefeated


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 7:36 PM
 

and get left out! What if UGA, OhSt & OK go undefeated(unlikely, but possible), then Bama finishes with only one loss, we would probably be left out!

As I have tried to tell some of the "dummies" on here who think otherwise, the perception of the ACC is very important in certain scenarios!!

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 4:29 PM
 

Nothing worse than the ones calling talk radio claiming to be Clemson fans spewing that garbage. We are on the verge of the greatest run in modern history so F em.

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 4:31 PM
 

keith75® you get it too! You're absolutely correct!

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 5:13 PM
 

Youre original comment is one of an absolute imbecile moron. Maybe you just sit this topic out moron. Youre obviously new to college football and never played any orgainzed sports. Pipe down. Now youre just annoying. Go get some more tats and move on.

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 5:15 PM
 

Carlsbad® said:

Youre original comment is one of an absolute imbecile moron. Maybe you just sit this topic out moron. Youre obviously new to college football and never played any orgainzed sports. Pipe down. Now youre just annoying. Go get some more tats and move on.




You seem a little triggered. I bet you are that tough guy that's sits in mommas basement just waiting to come up with some clever comment to type. Shut your mouth you b1tch! If you don't like what I post then skip over it and go eat mommas meat loaf.

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 5:19 PM
 

Pipe down moron. Your comments just get more idiotic. Just shut up and go get some tats. You know nothing about college about football or sports generally speaking. Youre triggered. Look how often you commented to your moronic post. Nice try, Einstein. You failed. Now scurry off wussy with a cap P.

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 5:24 PM
 

Ok tough guy. Go suck on your mom's teet.

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No one likes


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 5:25 PM
 

cops, and no one likes people who brag about tattoos.

What is wrong with you?

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Re: No one likes


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 5:27 PM
 


cops, and no one likes people who brag about tattoos.

What is wrong with you?




I could give two sh1ts what you think too! Now get Carlsbad pee pee out of your mouth so I can understand you better!

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Re: No one likes


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 6:01 PM
 

You talk like your 12. You obviously never graduated from Clemson. Nobody cares ### tates and your lame patrol job in Clemson messing with random people. Pipe down chump. Dont you have a parking ticker to give right now? Leave sports to the experts. Stick with the experts being a kook where you belong.

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Re: No one likes


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 6:03 PM
 

Carlsbad® said:

You talk like your 12. You obviously never graduated from Clemson. Nobody cares ### tates and your lame patrol job in Clemson messing with random people. Pipe down chump. Dont you have a parking ticker to give right now? Leave sports to the experts. Stick with the experts being a kook where you belong.




*ticket

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Re: No one likes


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 6:04 PM
 

Are you drunk?

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 5:56 PM
 

Go get some more gay assss tats kook. Youre a clown.

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 5:59 PM
 

Carlsbad® said:

Go get some more gay assss tats kook. Youre a clown.




*You're

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 6:02 PM
 

And?

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 6:04 PM
 

He's admitting you won.

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Run along Stewart, before I get bored of behavin'.


Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 6:07 PM
 


He's admitting you won.




*He has admitted

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 6:10 PM
 

He is a chump and a "bully". Tattepcop? Doesnt get lamer than that. He is trying to bully out the gate. Who cares about his tats and job? Then his posts double down on what a kook he is. He is a clown.

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 6:12 PM
 

Carlsbad® said:

He is a chump and a "bully". Tattepcop? Doesnt get lamer than that. He is trying to bully out the gate. Who cares about his tats and job? Then his posts double down on what a kook he is. He is a clown.




*TattedCop

*It doesn't

*out of the gate

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 6:38 PM
 

***Overcompensating***

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Imo, until the PO release their poll it's not a matter...


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 5:14 PM
 

to argue. The polls mean about as much to me as the price of hay in Ireland.

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We've won 5 straight games this season, not 20


Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 6:06 PM
 

Last year is last year.

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Nobody really deserves anything in

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 6:14 PM
 

Competition. You have to earn it. You can't use last year's team for that respect only the team you have this season and how they play. We may earn number 1 again but we have to keep winning.

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Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 6:41 PM
 

I wish we would have dropped to 4-5, I hope this game is that kick to the butt . I want to see some real Tiger football the next 3 months


Re: Of course we still deserve to be #1, what are you...

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019, 6:58 PM
 

How can anyone with one eye and half sense make an argument that we are clearly number 1 after the sh!t show yesterday against a 28 point underdog?


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