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TNET: Angry Swinney blasts FSU, says 'Noles used COVID as excuse to 'forfeit'

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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 7:14 PM
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Angry Swinney blasts FSU, says 'Noles used COVID as excuse to 'forfeit'

An angry Dabo Swinney hopped on a phone call with the media Sunday evening, and he didn’t pull any punches, saying that Florida St. used COVID as an excuse to postpone Saturday’s contest in Tallahassee and that in his mind the Seminoles have forfeited the game. Full Story »



And as usual, Swofford and the ACC...

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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 7:30 PM
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refuse to enforce the standards that they have imposed. This is a forfeit, plain and simple.

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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 7:45 PM
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Mr." We are definitely playing hoops today." This was about an hour before our game with FSU at the ACC hoops Tournament was canceled. So I wouldnt expect much from his sorry behind. He only moves to help UNC

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If they can refuse to play when all standards are met, then,

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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 7:32 PM
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.... there are no rules. Dabo is 100% right. This is total B.S.

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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 7:45 PM
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2020 blows.

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Swofford Will Have To Get Head Out A ** for This One!

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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 7:51 PM
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Too many eyes on it! Clemson has blown by just being a regional power! Swofford will have to step in and make it right!

FSU - Really? They belong in the Sorry Excuse Conference for this move!


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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 8:09 PM
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Swoffie is a "short timer." Getting ready to retire.

He does not have the go nads to do what is right! Never has, never will!!!!


Do your job ACC front office!***

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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 7:58 PM
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They have to in this situation; even if they don't want to seems like to me.


BOOM!


Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 7:58 PM
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He's right.

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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 8:00 PM
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You tell it Dabo! No reason at all to play that game. now.. See you in the Valley next year if you dare come.

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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 8:09 PM
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You tell it Dabo! No reason at all to play that game. now.. See you in the Valley next year if you dare come.




Between FSU and Swofford, "we didn't get our home stand with Clemson last year so we shouldn't have to play up there this year"! Swofford replies, "you have a complaint and I don't like Clemson - the game will be in Tallahassee"!

At which point all H breaks loose!

If FSU pulled this in basketball and cost N. Carolina basketball team a game Swofford would have a baby right on National TV as he's "fining, penalizing, yelling, cussing, spitting, burping, downgrading and holding FSU accountable"! Certainly not a "whole conference" mindset!

Heck, the ACC Network had basketball stuff on the majority of the weekend! It's like these folks don't know simple math. In March, you have the dance. But, regular season games, "it's no contest which sport generates more $$$$"! 85, 000 or 20, 000 is more Swofford? Maybe in Greensboro that math points to put all your eggs in the basketball basket. But, in the rest of the world you go with the larger number!

Mess = Swofford! And FSU - in every way possible as it relates to football and football administration.


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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 8:48 PM
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Doesn’t it seem odd that this isn’t getting more attention nationally?
I’m also disappointed in E Mac not making a bigger deal of it on ACCN.

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I imagine E Mac was waiting to let Dabo state his case...

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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 9:32 PM
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I bet it'll be up for discussion now that it's been stated. I'm actually more interested in hearing the ACC's response.

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Go Dabo!! Brilliantly stated!***


Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 8:50 PM
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Speak truth, Dabo!

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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 9:00 PM
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Love that guy! In a time when people candy-@ss their way around the truth, Dabo tells it straight. Love it.


Dabo is logical .... as always***


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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 9:16 PM
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If FSU was to Play Syracuse, they would have played the game under similar circumstaances. Too bad FSU has become a jv team. They were once proud and dominating. Very sad to see what happened. It is not Jimbo, Willie or Norvelle that have done this to FSU.


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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 9:40 PM
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Also the forfeit cost 2 Clemson Heisman candidates the opportunity to boost their standing on national TV.


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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 10:10 PM
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The reduced exposure for ETN and TL is definitely an impact. It’s non just them. Any Heisman candidate who misses play takes a step down. It is simply the “out of sight, out of mind” syndrome.

ETN was pretty much out anyway. The consecutive games fumble, which were game changers, were killers. That plus single digit rushing output (I put that on the O line), have done him in

TL certainly still has a chance. But he will need big numbers in each remaining game, to stoke the media fires again.


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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 9:20 PM
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Proud of you Dabo!!! Take up for your team, and tell them like it is.


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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 10:56 PM
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I don’t blame Dabo for his emotions at all. Yeah, he wants all of the kids and the staff to play, for all of the hard work they put in. But it’s more than that. We are now playing a bit of catch up in the rankings game. And usually, the gravity pull is downward with the pollsters when a team sits idle. Any winner would rather be driving their own outcome, rather than relying on how other teams play, while you sit there.

And this situation exudes an odor. FSU was already on the ropes. The team is teetering on capitulation already, as evidenced by a dearth of injuries and opt-outs (especially, as the better athletes see eroding value in playing with the season already gone). FSU’s six year precipitous decline is getting increasingly bigger media coverage, If I am FSU, why do I want to be on the national stage and be embarrassed by a hungry Clemson team eager to get back on track? It would just further damage their recruiting efforts. It’s not a virtuous way to go, but it’s probably a good business decision to help slow the bleeding.

It’s not just FSU BTW. Look at all of the postponements/cancellations that have taken place. Many of them are initiated by teams that are about to play a game where they are going to be bludgeoned. Coincidence? I’m hard pressed to think of games where the superior opponent, with something to play for, is the one initiating the cancellation.

And FSU (and others) have the perfect hall pass to use this year. Public health sentiment to protect the players, makes it very difficult to criticize any school for cancellation. Dabo’s animation has merit. But he needs to be careful about getting too vocal. Safety of players is going to trump anything, even if there may be other motives behind FSU’s decision. If anything, Dabo is at least speaking the sentiments of how a number of other coaches really feel on this.


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Posted: Nov 23, 2020, 7:53 AM
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Now, every one of FSU's recruits are open season for flipping because of this.

You can bet that the USF, UCF, Ole Miss, Mississippi State's, etc. are going to remind all of FSU's better recruits about this.

Let's wait and see what happens...


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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 11:08 PM
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Dabo nailed it and explained the situation perfectly. Of course players are going to test positive throughout the week. If they are choosing to play this was the assumed freaking risk.

Otherwise why play. This was my point on Saturday. Both ND and BC could have been exposed after TL tested positive, they played.

Just call it a cancellation because Clemson is not flipping the bill to go back down there. The conference will have to pay for it.

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Posted: Nov 22, 2020, 11:37 PM
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... because THEY DID.


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Posted: Nov 23, 2020, 12:01 AM
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FSU is a dumpster fire like USC. Never thought I’d see this!


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Posted: Nov 23, 2020, 12:26 AM
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Understand you are upset but it is a season of Covid and the ACC factored in a flexible schedule for missed games that can be made up later.

Last time I looked, Dabo saying that FSU forfeited the game is totally meaningless per ACC rules and guidelines under Covid situations. The game will be rescheduled.

There is an available date on December 12th which would fit in before the ACC Conference Championship Game.

If you fail to show up for a scheduled game---you will forfeit the game per ACC Rules.
Your move...Dabo.


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Posted: Nov 23, 2020, 12:36 AM
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Dabo: We can't afford the trip to FL, come and play here.


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Posted: Nov 23, 2020, 12:38 AM
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It may get scheduled (so that FSU can get the critics off their back), but I’ll bet money on it that it will never be played. Unless it turns out to be a critical game to determine standings-wise whether the Tigers get into the championship game (and it shouldn’t), it won’t happen. FSU will be stripped down by then to a skeleton of the already worn roster they have now.

In fact, it could turn out to be a blessing for us. It may give us an open week, and an extra week for the coaches to prepare for the rematch with ND.


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Posted: Nov 23, 2020, 7:02 AM
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StrongNTrue

I've always had a lot of respect for FSU. In fact, I've frequently said Clemson wouldn't be where it is today because FSU joined the ACC.

Saturday, I was riding to Tallahassee with a friend who is a n FSU fan when we heard the game was cancelled. An FSU fan was watching my dog so I could go to the game.

But my respect for FSU went out the window on Saturday.

A lot of time and effort was spent setting up protocols within the ACC to determine the criteria for when a game would be postponed or cancelled. That protocol and criteria was not followed.

If you think Clemson is not showing up for a scheduled game with FSU, you're wrong.

If you think that Clemson can not afford to come back to Tallahassee, you're wrong again.

I don't think there has been "bad blood" between Clemson and another team (except USC) for a long time - until now.

If FSU had any misgivings about playing a very good team from Clemson on November 21st, then they'll probably have more on December 12th. There will be no reason to play this game for FSU. How many opt outs will we see then?


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Posted: Nov 23, 2020, 10:25 AM
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Posted: Nov 23, 2020, 4:40 PM
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You mean like FSU did? Pretty sure your opinion on the matter is meaningless as all.

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Posted: Nov 23, 2020, 1:39 AM
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TigerBalm, deweather, CU17, Chucktown TMan, Felix2, Robertn and a few dozen of their circle ain't gonna like this. I hope they boycott TNet.

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Posted: Nov 23, 2020, 6:45 AM
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Go DABO.If we followed all the rules and protocol established by the ACC and ACC requires us to go back to FSU then sue both the ACC and FSU(and NCAA if they side with them) for highest amount of damages possible including punitive damages(physical,emotional,psychological) and for all players too.Make it in the multi-millions. Then use part of the money to reinstate the mens XC and TRACK. Ya'll do know a group protested this last week so we have to reinstate those programs.They were wearing UNITED shirts same as football.Oh, thats right,it was a peacefull protest you have to loot and burn to get what you want.Its the socialist democratic. BLM,ANTIFA way to get what you DEMAND!!!


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Posted: Nov 23, 2020, 8:27 AM
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Leaders lead ... go get 'em Dabo

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Posted: Nov 23, 2020, 10:18 AM
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As usual Dabo is spot on!!! IMO...FSU should be forced by the ACC to forfeit the game taking the decision out of the hands of the COWARDS AT FSU. FSU should also be forced to pay all the expenses Clemson incurred in this B.S not to mention the expenses fans who came to see the game spent. I to was angry as he** Saturday (as most of you were) and I will be raising even more he** if Clemson is forced to go back to FSU. If we are forced to go back, our Tigers should show no mercy and DESTROY FSU!! Run the #### score up to 100-0!!!!


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Posted: Nov 23, 2020, 11:12 AM
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Make the GT-Cumberland score look like an appetizer.

Scorched earth from here on out.


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