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TNET: Clemson AD wraps challenging year in letter to Tiger fans

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Posted: Jan 5, 2021, 11:19 AM
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Clemson AD wraps challenging year in letter to Tiger fans

Clemson athletic director Dan Radakovich gave an update to Clemson fans recently on Tiger athletics. Clemson Family, I hope that you and your family had a great Read Update »


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ATTENTION Men's cross country athletes

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Posted: Jan 5, 2021, 11:45 AM
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"Clemson will continue to honor student-athlete scholarships for the individuals who receive them. Additionally, all impacted student-athletes will continue to have access to benefits currently afforded to them including sports medicine, academic support, career development, mental health services and access to strength and conditioning facilities while enrolled at Clemson."

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Except that ZERO XC MEN are on scholarship- Empty promise


Posted: Jan 5, 2021, 2:37 PM
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WE have ZERO XC Men on Scholly @ Clemson, only track athletes. So the entire team is walk-ons and they still finished the best they've finished in 5 years as the ACC Champ's this year.
This is simply Dan's inherent Bias against runners. HE also cut the Men's XC program while the Asst AD @ South Carolina. Y

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Men's Track and XC cuts are BS...

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Posted: Jan 5, 2021, 12:34 PM
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First it was stated by DR that the cuts had to be done b/c of budget. Then when pressed on the numbers, it was about Gender equality.

Both are a lie.

Men's track and XC is less than 5% of the overall budget at just 2 million dollars per season. Then, when pressed about specifics DR said that money saved would be shared with all other olympic sports. Wait, I thought it was a budget cut? If you're cutting spending, how can you share money (that you supposedly don't have) with other sports?

Secondly, the whole Gender equality phrase is a farce. Clemson is at 0% risk. We've added 2 women sports in the last 20 years, with Softball being the latest sport added 2 years ago.

For example: UNC is 59% female, 41% Male, and has been within 3% of that number for 20+ years now. Yet, their athletic budget is almost 3/1 ratio (33 million vs 11 million) of spending on Men's vs Women's sports. For comparison, Clemson Spent 35.6 million on men's sports and 11 million on women's sports.

Yet, UNC has never had an issue with Title 9 compliance. Why? B/c each year they spend just a little more on the women's budget, roster limits and/or scholarships compared to Men's. They don't cut Men's sports either. They have a long history where they slowly give just a fraction more to Women's each year compared to Men's. This is all that's needed to stay compliant....even with a student ratio of near 60/40 Women.

Lastly, D Rad has a history of targeting track & field as a program. While at GT, he cut the roster limits in half for both men AND Women. As if that wasn't enough, he removed all scholarships from both programs. I was told by a GT coach (who I'm friends with, and lived next door too) when D Rad was hired by Clemson 1) all the coaches were received to see him go and 2) to not be surprised when the day comes that he tries to cut the track program. I didn't believe them at the time, but that sure has turned out to be true.

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Re: TNET: Clemson AD wraps challenging year in letter to Tiger fans

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Posted: Jan 5, 2021, 1:55 PM
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I just don’t understand the finances and the math. First, does IPTAY have a reserve or emergency fund? Most experts agree that nonprofits should have at least 50% of their annual budget in reserve/emergency funds. Lack of such a fund is poor management and leadership by IPTAY Board, Officers and management. If those funds are available they should be able to cover the 11% shortfall. What’s up?

Second, I was surprised to see gender equity used as an excuse foe the men’s track and XC decision. Seems to be convenient timing. We all understand money is tight but let’s find creative and innovative solutions. Cutting programs and furloughing people is not creative not innovative. Clemson Athletics should be leaders not doing the same old thing.

Bring back men’s track and field and cross country. Admit there are better ways to solve this problem. Let’s be All In on ALL Tiger sports

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Re: TNET: Clemson AD wraps challenging year in letter to Tiger fans

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Posted: Jan 5, 2021, 11:56 PM
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PTBTiger,

You really captured many of my same thoughts. The first thing I thought was that this was a lazy attempt to "Find money" in a budget during a tough year.

It's much easier to face the music from one coach (cut 3 programs with the same head coach), as opposed to 15+ coaches with small budget revisions on each program.

And heaven forbid you get creative or stress fund raising to keep the programs intact.

The cutting of these programs, in my opinion, has been in the works for some time. Mark Elliot has not fared all that well, but the AD seems okay with the lack of performance (it's easier to cut a program when it doesn't perform well). Further, the addition of Women's Softball gave Clemson enough teams, so that when they cut all 3 (Men's Track, Indoor Track & XC), they would conveniently be at the NCAA minimum of athletic teams.

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Re: TNET: Clemson AD wraps challenging year in letter to Tiger fans

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Posted: Jan 5, 2021, 1:55 PM
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I just don’t understand the finances and the math. First, does IPTAY have a reserve or emergency fund? Most experts agree that nonprofits should have at least 50% of their annual budget in reserve/emergency funds. Lack of such a fund is poor management and leadership by IPTAY Board, Officers and management. If those funds are available they should be able to cover the 11% shortfall. What’s up?

Second, I was surprised to see gender equity used as an excuse foe the men’s track and XC decision. Seems to be convenient timing. We all understand money is tight but let’s find creative and innovative solutions. Cutting programs and furloughing people is not creative not innovative. Clemson Athletics should be leaders not doing the same old thing.

Bring back men’s track and field and cross country. Admit there are better ways to solve this problem. Let’s be All In on ALL Tiger sports

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All of this is code for...

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Posted: Jan 5, 2021, 2:11 PM
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"Hold on to your wallets, your dues and ticket prices are going up significantly."

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Hot off the Presses-ESPN.possibleDiscrimination vs. track/XC


Posted: Jan 5, 2021, 2:42 PM
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https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/30655868/complaint-alleges-clemson-removal-men-track-racial-discrimination


An activist attempting to reinstate Clemson's men's track and cross country programs filed a complaint with the Department of Education last week, claiming that eliminating the teams is an act of illegal racial discrimination.

The complaint asks the department's Office for Civil Rights to investigate whether Clemson's decision to end its men's track and cross country programs violates Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which states that no institution that receives federal funds can discriminate on the basis of race, color or national origin. The Office for Civil Rights has not yet decided whether it will open a case on the matter and does not confirm or comment on any complaints before deciding whether it will investigate.

Russell Dinkins, a former Princeton runner, filed the Title VI complaint as part of his ongoing effort to fight back against colleges that are cutting track programs amid a pandemic that has caused large budget shortfalls for many athletic departments.

Clemson plans to end men's running programs
Clemson announced in November that it would be getting rid of its men's cross country and track teams at the end of the current academic year. The school hasn't announced plans to cut other programs at this point, and the women's program is expected to continue. Athletic director Dan Radakovich said in an open letter announcing the decision that financial challenges (the athletic department is projecting a loss of $25 million in revenue this fiscal year) were only part of the reasoning that led the school to stop sponsoring track and cross country.

He said that "only men's track and field and cross country could provide the department with both substantial cost savings as well as the ability for long-term Title IX compliance," which mandates that schools provide equal opportunity for male and female athletes.

A spokesman for Clemson's athletic department said cutting men's track and cross country was motivated largely by an ongoing effort to make sure its athletic opportunities for women line up with the increasing female population on campus. To move closer to Title IX compliance the school would have to add more women's sports or eliminate a men's sport. Pandemic-related budget shortfalls make it much more difficult to add women's sports at this time. The spokesman said Clemson has not yet received notice of the Title VI complaint and thus would not be able to comment on it.

Dinkins argues that cutting the track and cross country teams unfairly targets the majority of Black athletes on campus who do not earn revenue for the school. He said two-thirds of the Black male athletes on campus who do not play football or basketball are on the track team. More than 3% of all Black male undergraduates at Clemson (22 of 693) are members of the track and field or cross country teams. Eliminating their opportunities, Dinkins said, sends a message that athletic opportunities for Black athletes are worthwhile only if those athletes are making money for the school.

Radakovich said during a news conference in November that he and others took race and diversity into account before making a decision to cut the track and cross country programs.

"It's certainly something we need to look at," Radakovich said in November. "Our whole campus and our athletic program are committed to racial and ethnic diversity. We will continue to do that moving into the future."

According to data collected by the NCAA in 2019, there are only four Division I men's college sports in which Black athletes make up more than 10% of participants: basketball (56%), football (49%), indoor track (28%) and outdoor track (27%). Cross country and soccer are the next highest on the list with 10% of its men identifying as Black.

This year Dinkins has already organized successful efforts to preserve track opportunities at Brown, William & Mary and Minnesota. Brown's president, Christina Paxson, said in June she decided to reverse a decision to drop track and field from varsity status after hearing feedback on how the move would impact students of color.


At Clemson, Dinkins is working with a group of concerned athletes, alumni and parents who are hoping to create a similar result. While Dinkins has pointed out the impact cutting track has on Black athletes as part of his efforts at other schools, he says this is the first time he's filed a formal complaint of racial discrimination with the Department of Education. Dinkins filed the Title VI complaint on his own, rather than on behalf of the group he is helping to organize, but says it is just one part of a multipronged approach. The group has also organized marches, started a letter-writing campaign and garnered support from state politicians.

"It's one move among many," Dinkins said of this Title VI complaint. "The goal is to save Clemson's track program, but it's also to let all colleges know that eliminating track programs is not an acceptable option. You can't eliminate a sport that provides disproportionate opportunities to black athletes."

Radakovich and others at Clemson have thus far said they do not plan to revisit their decision.

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Re: TNET: Clemson AD wraps challenging year in letter to Tiger fans

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Posted: Jan 6, 2021, 6:32 AM
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I have a proposal to make this really simple. Clemson sports will include the following:
Soccer men’s and women’s
Baseball
Softball
Football
Basketball men’s and women’s
Golf men’s and women’s
Women’s track (to make up the deficit of football)

Aside from that, America doesn’t care to follow or watch it and it’s a waste of IPTAY funds

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Posted: Jan 6, 2021, 9:17 AM
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Here is the website to get you plugged in. Our movement is well over 3k folks now.

www.saveclemsontf.com

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