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Topic: So now that Trump has bent the knee
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So now that Trump has bent the knee

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 9:07 AM
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what would you consider as a "successful" Biden term?

What do you want to see happen in the next 4 years to consider Biden as a successful president?

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easy:

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 9:17 AM
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I would like him to be a caretaker type president who does very little but keep the white house warm. To that end, I hope:

1) not die or leave office
2) no supreme court vacancies (but he'll probably get to replace Breyer).
3) no wars
4) minimize executive orders

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Are we to believe that Mitch would allow a Democrat

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 9:37 AM
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POTUS to seat a SCJ? There's an election happening in 2 or 3 years, for God's sake.

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he'll have to appoint someone palatable to the Senate


Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 9:48 AM
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exercising its advice and consent job. Probably a moderate demoncrat from a southern state with a law degree. Someone like a younger version of Jean Toal

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Maybe someone with more than two years experience even.***

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 9:50 AM
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Re: Maybe someone with more than two years experience even.***


Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 10:14 AM
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2 yrs exp didn’t stop Obama from being president

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Re: Maybe someone with more than two years experience even.***


Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 10:16 AM
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He was President for two years before he was President?

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President of Kenya***

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 10:43 AM
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can you name me a Supreme Court Justice who


Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 2:17 PM
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was previously a Supreme Court Justice?

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Re: easy:

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 9:58 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8N7BSsU5oo

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good one! someone mentioned Fillmore the other day


Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 10:01 AM
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and I instantly thought of that episode.

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Re: easy:


Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 11:36 AM
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Alex,

That is a pretty low bar. I think you will get most of that.

I would add

1. A more fair tax structure that might help rebuild the middle class in the long run.

2. Some improvement in conditions for the working class - wages, healthcare, education, etc.

3. A reduction in tribalism within the USA - racial, gender, ideology, etc.

I am not looking for liberal miracles here - the nation is deeply divided, though not nearly as much as social media extremists would have us believe. I am just hopeful that Biden can undo much of the damage done by Trump and get us moving in the right direction. That would be a great first term.


Ignore the AOC gang’s socialist iniatives***

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 9:23 AM
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Re: Ignore the AOC gang’s socialist iniatives***


Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 11:38 AM
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Bengal,

Not ignore - moderate. You should try it sometime.


It can be moderately successful if GA gets at least 1 senate


Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 9:27 AM
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seat.

Otherwise we'll be answering to President Xi.

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I'll go out on a limb and say GA will definitely get

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 9:35 AM
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2 senate seats.

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Well played. 1 republican senate seat.

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 11:55 AM
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Of course, maybe Mitch could unpack the senate and only give them 1.

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Re: So now that Trump has bent the knee

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 9:36 AM
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The most immediate issue will be Covid and economic recovery. Push out a vaccine, send out stimmy checks, maybe cancel some college debt.

I'm going to guess that if he has a signature piece of legislation it'll be healthcare, but that may have to wait two years. I'm guessing he'll waste a lot of political capital with everything above.

In a more general sense, just a return to normalcy: repair our relationships with our NATO allies, no more alternative facts, no more retweeting white supremacists or conspiracy theories, etc. etc.

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I voted for Biden, but if he get too crazy with the stimulus checks,

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 10:02 AM
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or starts cancelling college debt or giving free tuition, I will be switching back to voting Republican in the next election.

Probably will anyways if the next Dem candidate is more progressive, but definitely if Biden starts giving in to the progressive ideals.

I agree with all the “normalcy” stuff though. Just sit in a corner for 4 years and don’t do anything major and it will be a significant improvement on the last 4 years.


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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 11:43 AM
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cac,

Since you mentioned student debt, I was wondering - what would be wrong with matching funds on a decreasing scale. For instance, for every dollar that one pays back in the first year of the program, the federal government will cover a dollar. Year 2 - 90% Year 3 - 80 % and so forth ?

That way the students have some skin in the game, they are motivated to pay back sooner rather than later, and they can crawl out from under the crippling debt while they are relatively young. That seems like a reasonable compromise to me.


Why do we need to compromise at all?


Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 11:48 AM
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Why do we need to forgive any student loans? Why not mortgages? Or car loans?

These people took out loans knowing they had to pay them back. Why should they get a free pass to ignore their obligation?


Re: Why do we need to compromise at all?

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 1:25 PM
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Waaahhhh. Why should other people get stuff but not me? Student debt is a huge issue that needs to be addressed and the covid recovery is a great opportunity. For many kids, we've essentially said if you want a decent job you have to get a four year degree, minimum, which means you're going to be so burdened with debt you can forget about home ownership or financial security your first x years out of college.

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Nope it’s not about me at all. Already gave away my free money


Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 1:42 PM
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the government gave me this year. Forgiving student loans just doesn’t make any sense. It doesn’t solve the issue, and there are a million other ways to boost the economy besides free handouts.

https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/forgiving-student-debt-doesnt-actually-solve-the-root-of-the-problem-2019-06-26


Re: Nope it’s not about me at all. Already gave away my free money


Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 11:55 PM
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9,

This was an interesting article.

Here is part of the problem. About 25 or so years ago, state governments drastically reduced their support for state universities. These mostly Republican legislatures said that they thought that colleges should be run like businesses and compete.

So they did. Clemson built themselves up and competed for customers - all over the world. Wealthier students came and paid higher and higher tuition - remember when in-state students could afford to go to Clemson.

So a big part of the exploding costs of college is built on the withdrawal of state governments from their responsibility to higher education.


Re: So now that Trump has bent the knee

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 1:18 PM
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I'd be for that. There are other things like making federal loans interest free for x years that'd help. It's important to note that in the context of my previous post, I'm linking student loans to economic recovery as part of a stimulus package.

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Don't die or step down....

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 9:36 AM
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And do absolutely nothing.

As a business owner who already did a round of layoffs, Biden's economic policies scare the crap out of me.

Trump didn't do anything for the deficit and Biden is wanting to accelerate it. Plus, his retirement agenda can really fawk over the markets.


Meh. The only thing he can do is restore the dignity of the

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 10:10 AM
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office, which no one President can do. I mean, after Watergate, Lewinsky, and DJT, it will take a while to ever get it back.

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Re: Meh. The only thing he can do is restore the dignity of the


Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 10:15 AM
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You think Biden has dignity? HFS!

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Re: Meh. The only thing he can do is restore the dignity of the


Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 11:57 PM
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In the words of our senior senator, " if you don't like Joe Biden, you need to do a little self-examination.


takes naps all day

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020, 10:14 AM
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reads us a bed time story every night on national TV.

Hires qualified people to run our federal agencies.

Tells the truth and takes accountability for his actions.

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Re: So now that Trump has bent the knee


Posted: Nov 25, 2020, 8:15 AM
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Trump has bent no knees! FACT

Trump merely interceded himself between the GSA who was getting death threats to her, her family and even her pets.

Truth will beat darkness


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Posted: Nov 25, 2020, 8:17 AM
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But if I had to say what would be successful next four years for Biden would be ending up in a cell in Gitmo and avoiding the noose


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