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Topic: Did the terrorists have inside help from GOP Congressmen and
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Did the terrorists have inside help from GOP Congressmen and


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 7:09 PM
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staff? This is going to get much much uglier as the truth comes out. Videos, social media posts and testimony of terrorists trying to save their own ##### under threat of prison will speed the process.


Turtlehead is trying to get ahead of the story.

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I think you're onto something.

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 7:13 PM
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It wouldn't surprise me if every single Pub in the House and senate had paid the rioters to assassinate all Dems. You, Turtlehead, and Prairie Dog stay on the case on this one, because as soon as we get all the Republicans locked away and/or sentenced to death, we can let the healing begin.

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hang 'em all at high noon for treason***

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 7:20 PM
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Re: Did the terrorists have inside help from GOP Congressmen and


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 7:20 PM
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That crazy gun-toting Squeaky Fromme who just came in might have had a hand in stuff...Lauren Boebert, I think her name is. She apparently Tweeted that Pelosi had been evacuated, which even fellow Republicans were tearing her head off about. She's also pretty hardcore QAnon.

My guess would be her phone records and E-mails are going to get some scrutiny the next few weeks. If her involvement was as clumsy and brazen as the rest of this seemed to be, it's not going to be hidden very deep.

Somebody surely seens to have tipped off some of the more organized attackers where Pelosi's office was, which is definitely inviting more than a few questions right now on the Hill.

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They give tours of the Capitol on a regular basis.

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 7:22 PM
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Not to be snarky here, but Pelosi's office location isn't some major secret.

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Re: They give tours of the Capitol on a regular basis.

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 7:36 PM
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Apparently that whole area is a maze even people who work there get lost in...but certain of the attackers seemed to be able to navigate it anyway.

Again, the Internetz puts a lot of things that would have been Secret Agent stuff even twenty years ago in reach of anybody nowadays - somebody with a functioning iPhone could have taken over a third-world nation with it twenty years ago! - but Jim Clyburn among others thought some of the inside info some of the folks seemed to have was "fishy". Direct quote.

They're asking the question, anyhow. Boebert had better hope she wasn't involved because otherwise she could swing, and not in the naughty way.

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Schroedingers Seditionists here for Obed. Both prepared and


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 8:08 PM
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aimless wanderers. Don’t look!

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thought you were allergic to snarky?***


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 8:41 PM
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Out at “not to be snarky here”***


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 8:07 PM
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wouldn't have said it if I didn't mean it.***


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 9:06 PM
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Re: They give tours of the Capitol on a regular basis.

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 8:18 PM
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No tours are given of the senate and congressional wings, period, nor is there a map of their office locations. So I am not sure where you are getting this from, other than wishful thinking.

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I have no wish to know where any offices are. I regret that.


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 8:29 PM
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they even have them.

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I guess it's been a while, but my Grandfather and

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 9:04 PM
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I went there in 2007 or so when I took him there to see the WWII memorial. Visitor's center hadn't been built yet, but we got to go to Elizabeth Dole's office and then walk over through the tunnel, and we did get to see the various wings with one of Dole's pages escorting us. As I recall, most of the real offices are across the street, so there should only be very few offices in those wings, and they're the bigwigs like the House Speaker.


Either way, this map took about 12 seconds to find on page 1 of Google image results, and there's a more detailed one on wikipedia that can't be image linked.





I'm just skeptical that it takes an "insider" to figure out where the speaker of the House's office is located, and I'd be even more skeptical that once they're breached the wings, there wasn't a directory list posted somewhere.

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Re: I guess it's been a while, but my Grandfather and


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 9:06 PM
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I am missing the part where it shows whose office is whose. and you see that yellow area, that is the limit of the tours, visitors are NOT allowed in any other area. I do no see offices there. I have taken that tour a half dozen times, kind of a requirement when you grow up in the area.

and to clarify, I am not advocating any conspiracies here, just that it is NOT common knowledge where their offices are. Can people find that stuff out on the deep dark recesses of the web, sure.

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Look at the House wing.....look for rooms labeled "speaker"


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 9:13 PM
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If you want more detail, then go here and scroll down to the floor maps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol


I suppose the "hideaway offices" are more discreet, so if Clyburn is saying that someone literally came to his "hideaway office" and knew he'd be there, then yeah, that's a little more damning.

edit: I just read 19B's link. Clyburn just appears to be claiming conspiracy because people were outside his secondary office, but nothing about them specifically looking for him. Unless there's a different quote from him, that seems like grasping for straws.

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Re: Look at the House wing.....look for rooms labeled "speaker"


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 9:22 PM
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dude, I do not even want to argue about something so dumb that is not her private office. 4 years of art and architectural history and about 5 class field trips growing up, I know that building well. Congrats on finding an early 20th century reproduction of the building floor plan, they probably sell those in the gift shop...

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They're from 1997, but ok.


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 9:35 PM
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If you aren't looking to "argue" about something, don't call bulllshit on something you don't care about. If you think no tourist ever has gotten to a wing, don't claim 5 middle school field trips as examples of expertise.

I'll say mea culpa on the current tours thing because I guess that changed after they built the visitor's center and after I last went in the building in the late aughts. Either way, there are only a few formal offices in the actual building, and Pelosi's name was on the door. It doesn't surprise me in the least that out of the hundreds (or however many there were that came in the building with no real limits) some found that office.

If you guys really want to say something as insane as a Pub congressperson or Senator handed out that info, then you need a lot more proof than people stumbling upon Nancy's office or Clyburn hearing people outside his little unmarked pad.

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Re: They're from 1997, but ok.

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 9:47 PM
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I am not saying people handed out info, Pelosi's name is on her door, that is how they found it agreed. I am saying that map is worthless, and lobbyists are called lobbyists for a reason. Really that is all I have.

But FYI, I did an immense amount of research on that building a few years back because I was paid handsomely to construct a detailed 3d model of it. Let's just pretend I know what an utter maze it is ad one would have a heck of a time finding an accurate, and recent floor plan of it.

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Did you see the quote from Clyburn?

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 8:38 PM
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His marked office with his name is in a section with a bunch of other offices. He spends most of his time and does most of his work in an unmarked "inner" office that nobody outside of other Congresspeople and staffers would have any idea about. There were (according to his account) multiple people outside of THAT office vocally looking for him specifically.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/james-clyburn-says-somebody-on-the-inside-of-capitol-was-complicit/


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Re: Did you see the quote from Clyburn?


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 8:56 PM
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I didn't see that. That's pretty strong.

The video our own investigative sleuth ClemsonTiger1988 provided of the cops just stepping aside at one entrance certainly was not a good look.

I do wonder what the Feds might unearth in the upcoming weeks, for sure.

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wait....I just read this.


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 9:16 PM
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He didn't say anything about people looking for him specifically outside his hideaway office. He just said there were people there. Well, yeah, hundred of people infiltrated the Capitol and were walking around generally unimpeded. It makes sense there would be people outside that door.

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Given that 147 GOP Congressmen returned to the capitol


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 7:29 PM
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post violence to vote to overturn the election results, I would imagine many, more egregious examples, will emerge.

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Let follow the evidence or lack of evidence. Our US judicial


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 7:47 PM
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System usually gets it right IMO.

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Re: Did the terrorists have inside help from GOP Congressmen and


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 8:04 PM
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Markwayne Mullin and Jim Jordan.

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I'll go with there's ZERO evidence of this.***

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 8:23 PM
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Re: I'll go with there's ZERO evidence of this.***


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 8:29 PM
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I could see one of the newby True Believers deciding Now Was The Time, which is why I'm staring hard at Boebert or that loonie from North Georgia. Somebody loopy from too much QAnon...well, maybe. If you truly think your opponents are a bunch of baby-eating Satanist pedophiles who just stole the election, I mean, wouldn't you be trying to uproot the Cabal?

The vets who'd gotten used to Washington, with all the bennies and status it entails...unlikely, IMHO.

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c'mon man.....***


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 9:07 PM
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I'll wait for the evidence on this charge.***


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 10:40 PM
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Leave the conspiracies to the republicans, that’s their atea

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 9:21 PM
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of expertise if these last 4 years have told us anything

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Despite you figuring out a way to make it a partisan swipe,


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 9:22 PM
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I'm gonna point your ability to recognize a conspiracy theory when you see one.

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I see no reason to think they did.

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 9:28 PM
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Absent any real evidence this seems purely a conspiracy theory.

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I'm actually more alarmed that Chuck spurred


Posted: Jan 12, 2021, 9:48 PM
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actual serious discussion from intelligent people with that post than I am that he'd throw out such a wild conspiracy with zero proof.

This is Obama's a Kenyan level stuff....shame on everyone who tried to justify it, and no, I won't eat crow if it turns out to be true because at this point neither I, nor anyone else has tangible evidence to take this insanely cynical theory seriously.

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