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Do you think we have another shutdown?
Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 8:42 AM
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I certainly hope not. What do you think?
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I don't see it happening.
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 8:44 AM
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I know it's hitting my little part of the world right now pretty hard. Cases are going up fast.
We've already heard from some local admins that a shut down will NOT happen.
Now nationally/state, I have no idea. Highly doubt it though.
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CU Medallion [57201]
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depends on your state***
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 8:45 AM
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Yep, not a national thing one way or another.
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 8:48 AM
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I do think most states will end up having to bring back some of the restrictions we saw in the spring.
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Re: Do you think we have another shutdown?
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 8:46 AM
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1. When Joe takes over, he will pay attention to the numbers and follow the lead of the scientists.
2. If everyone would wear a mask and socially distance voluntarily, there would be no need for a mandate and we could limit restrictions by region (based on the numbers) and by circumstances (possibility of spread).
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Re: Do you think we have another shutdown?
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 8:47 AM
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We CAN strike a balance between our health and the economy if we are smart about this.
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We're soooo balanced. Should be simple. Right?***
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 8:48 AM
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This is America. When have we been smart about anything
Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 8:49 AM
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in the past 150 years?
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so like Europe***
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 8:48 AM
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More like Israel.***
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 8:49 AM
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Did they follow the SCIENCE?***
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 9:33 AM
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well, I have cited several times...
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 9:37 AM
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that Trump actually followed the science, but his response was and is more holistic. The cure cannot be worse than the virus.
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If I hear Biden say the word "SCIENCE" one more time...
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 10:17 AM
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Good lord dude, everyone listens to the medical professionals. But there's a helluva lot more to consider than just one aspect.
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The worst of it will be before there is a change
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 8:49 AM
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in the office of the President.
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Re: The worst of it will be before there is a change
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 8:51 AM
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I heard on here that it will all end on November 4th.
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Re: The worst of it will be before there is a change
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 10:37 AM
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I dont think the virus ends on the 4th, I do however think the tone from most media changes from doom and gloom to positivity.
Just my opinion.
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You do realize the governors control the shutdowns, right?
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 9:03 AM
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As for restrictions on public/social activities, business restrictions, social distancing, masks, etc., we have been doing that for 8 months. Has it eliminated covid?
Biden’s plan (yes, he has a plan) is basically everything that has been done - it will just be him running it as president, but mostly delegating decisions to a panel. So that will just be more of the same; although now the media will change the narrative to an all positive slant.
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The key difference is he will delegate decisions to
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 9:07 AM
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his team of medical specialists instead of undercutting them.
And THAT is key.
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so you want unelected bureaucrats shutting the country...
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 9:32 AM
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no thanks
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Re: The key difference is he will delegate decisions to
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 9:43 AM
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I’ll agree that Trump’s style is hands on. I’ll also concede he is not the typical politician in his speech or actions. However, he did listen to - and accepted the decisions and guidance of - his commission/panel of experts (which included Drs Fauci and Birks). After 5-6 months of that, which included numerous revelations, changes in policy, contradictions - and most of all questionable results even with massive economic and personal harm to America and Americans - is when he took a more active (unilateral?) role in decisions. And if he does not like, agree or trust you, he will say it.
When you factor in the fact that the dems - with the complicit press - spent the entire pandemic criticizing and resisting any of the measures he proposed/enacted, might have something to do with his anger and harsh comments. By the way, establishing a panel of experts, restricting travel; War Powers Act to manufacture PPE to name a couple, are parts of Biden’s ‘new’ plan.
The military has a saying: “It’s called Leadership. Not ‘Likership’ “. ( because you can’t please everyone). Trump is the President - and the leader of the nation - so he is the final decision maker.
It remains to be seen, but we’ll know soon, if more people agreed with him, than not.
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That's not how it should work.
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 11:23 AM
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The President should not delegate such decisions. That's what he's the President for.
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No full shutdown. Some restrictions & requirements ...
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 9:11 AM
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based on location.
Public / consumer behavior is not solely dependent on government actions. Perceived safety and confidence will drive activities.
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Re: No full shutdown. Some restrictions & requirements ...
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 9:35 AM
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It seems like everyone who wants to shut things down still have their high paying jobs.
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Re: Do you think we have another shutdown?
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 9:22 AM
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Nothing any different than the Trump administration has done. Well, except to say "we follow science."
Won't be any national shutdowns.
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110%er [6251]
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No. Deaths are "under control" relatively speaking and most
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Posted: Nov 2, 2020, 9:24 AM
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of the increase in cases is in younger people who will (mostly) be OK.
Plus - NYC is where the national media is - and NYC isn't struggling now like it was in March/April. So - there is slightly less angst about it being broadcast now...
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