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New Story: Students to be charged for football tickets

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:12 AM
 

Students to be charged for football tickets

Students wanting to attend home football games next fall will have to pay for a season ticket if they want to sit in the lower bowl, while upper deck tickets will still be free. Full Story »


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Bernie ain't gonna like this***

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:13 AM
 



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I ain't gonna like this***

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 1:47 PM
 

I think the students contribute to our success in Death Valley ... maybe more than the coaches... I do not mind paying Dabo 5million+ but not on the the backs of the students!

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 8:14 PM
 

Students don't deserve $250 tickets. They can sit up top. Less seats for GT fans

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:14 AM
 

That's a misleading title to the article. Clearly, students can still attend football games for free as the information posted under the article outlines.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:36 AM
 

Agree. They can choose to pay for better seats or go for free in the upper deck. Plus if they pay, they don't have to take the time to try to go get the tickets.

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free in the upper deck, not the main student section***


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Re: free in the upper deck, not the main student section***


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:20 PM
 

So what. Free is free. Students can get into the game for free, the title of the article leads one to believe otherwise.

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Re: free in the upper deck, not the main student section***

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 1:48 PM
 

only 3,300 students can attend for free!

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Is this because


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:16 AM
 

They've been using profanity in the fight song? Or just to raise money to put seats in the east endzone?

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How Much will students have to donate to get lowers?***


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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:22 AM
 

With they have to buy the ticket at face value as well? Just wondering?

If so, on average, that puts a student cost approaching to $100 per game for the season with the Iptay fee for the lower seats and hill?

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:27 AM
 

The way I read it, it's just a fee of $225 for the entire season and that comes to a little over $30/game. That's not too bad but I can't speak for everybody. Seems fair, times are changing and despite our desire for things to remain the same, they can't...Its just life, I guess.

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Non students have to pay 800-1600 I think for similar seats.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:29 AM
 

So they get a pretty good discount.

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Re: Non students have to pay 800-1600 I think for similar seats.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:28 PM
 

A big discount. But there will always someone petitioning for something free bc they feel they deserve it. IMO, every student that enrolls at Clemson, they enroll bc of the quality of education offered at Clemson University, and surely not to go to sporting events for free But, Clemson is offering their students the privilege to attend sporting events for FREE. Rightfully so, the free seat privilege doesn't include seats of the student's choice. There are a lot of people paying lots of money to sit in the upper deck. and anyone that cries and complains about sitting in the upper deck for absolutely FREE of any cost for the seat, they should keep their AS$ES at home where they can have a choice seat in front of their TV. And if they are watching at a friends house, please don't pisss and moan when they can't sit in the home owners chair!!!!


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Re: Non students have to pay 800-1600 I think for similar seats.


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 6:04 PM
 

Football tickets aren't "FREE." They are included in the cost of tuition, which is raising every year. There wouldn't be a football team without the University.

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Did you read the posting about the athletic department

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 7:08 PM
 

getting ZERO funding from the University? It's actually the other way at Clemson. The AD gives money to the school, and all students benefit from the parking lots that get paved, etc. using IPTAY funds.

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Re: Did you read the posting about the athletic department

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 7:26 PM
 

Well, that is great! But still the Football Team exists through the University, and not the other way around. Otherwise it would be the NFL---

Just my opinion as a Clemson student who studied hard, counted every dime, and attended Clemson Football games! I think the student section should be on the lower level and that all students, even those with less money, should be able to attend. Some majors are really demanding (architecture, engineering, others) and you can't really have a job and work. Once you get a job, it's a different thing to charge.

At the same time, I wish students would stay in the section until the end of the game! If you take a ticket, you should respect the game....

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Also with the jobs


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 8:39 PM
 

It's not like it's easy to just "get a job." Not anymore at least.

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Re: Non students have to pay 800-1600 I think for similar seats.


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 8:46 PM
 

Without the college, it's called the NFL!!! When there is College without FB, there will be training centers everywhere for out of HS pre NFL football centers that will play games just as college does it. And the center will recruit basically the way colleges does it. There will small cash offered under fair guidelines, I'm sure!!!

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Re: Non students have to pay 800-1600 I think for similar seats.


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 9:46 PM
 

I am 40 year iptay guy and students need to be (a good portion any way) in the lower deck in the section by the hill to create crowd noise. the upper deck by hill is also good but dont fix what works for a great atmosphere.

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Re: Non students have to pay 800-1600 I think for similar seats.


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 9:28 PM
 

and they yell alot louder creating an atmosphere that the old guys like me cannot do. I am iptay season ticket holder for 40 years and this stinks

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as a 40 year season ticket holder leave the students


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 9:34 PM
 

alone and please do not move them to a worse spot as the noise near the hill is great. I think that the price is too high for a student and not sure this is a good move. soemtimes if it it broke dont fix it just because you can. new ad's love to screw some things up inspite of having a vision about other things.
us old iptay folks sure aint gong to be able to create that atmosphere.

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Re: as a 40 year season ticket holder leave the students


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 1:47 PM
 

Students should go to games free but the AD needs to pay $1000 per game.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:24 PM
 

I would have loved the ticketing cost to get a ticket. I had one for every game, but had to wait in line (a Pain). I would have worked extra jobs to pay for it because I wasn't one of the haves, as they say! It is all about priority. Students sell tickets, just like everyone else to make money. Hopefully, this will eliminate that. It's all about greed too. You have to pay coaches and provide for the professional experiences we are seeing at Clemson. When I was at Clemson we were terrible. Winning has a price to play. Go Tigers!!!!

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Doesn't seem like greed to me.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:24 PM
 

It seems like we're paying the bills to keep a top 10 football program going.

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Re: Doesn't seem like greed to me.


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 6:39 AM
 

Paying it on the backs of students who by and large have no reliable source of income as it is. It's shameful.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:25 AM
 

The "donation" will be $225 and it will cover the cost of their ticket.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:58 AM
 

My understanding is that the student will have to join the IPTAY Collegiate Club, which cost $40 per year or $130 for four years if you pay up front.....this then gives them the right to purchase their lower level ticket for $225.

Is this correct Nikki?

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:44 PM
 

Exactly, and I assume that a parent that has a kid at Clemson would gladly pay 225 a FB season for their kid to attend a game. That's $32 bucks a game. Concerts cost much more, about anything that young people want to do away from home cost much more, and they don't have to risk driving home drunk!!!

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I understand where DRad is coming from...

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:23 AM
 

but he needs to recognize that this may potentially change the atmosphere on the hill and student section in the lower deck. I do not like the plan since it will separate the haves from the have nots instead of uniting the students as one family which it has been always. There are other/better ways to generate money besides this. Don't like it.

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Re: I understand where DRad is coming from...

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:36 AM
 

There will not be have or have not. Student can still get a free ticket for the upper deck.

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You missed a word...

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:39 AM
 

He said "it will separate the haves from the have nots"

That it will certainly do. The Haves will be in the lower bowl and have nots in the upper deck.

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Re: You missed a word...

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:43 AM
 

They both will HAVE a ticket in their hand.

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You're being obtuse. His point has merit.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:48 AM
 

I know this poor 'ol country boy wouldn't have wanted to spend the extra money to get lower deck tickets when I was in school in the early 00s. The fee seems somewhat reasonable, but I still don't like it. Conceptually I agree with charles. It's divisive in some sense.

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In much the same way that some don't even get to go

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 7:14 PM
 

to Clemson? In the same way that there will ALWAYS be differences between people?

Colleges have become too politically correct, and arguing that not GIVING tickets in the PREFERRED area is in some way evil is a great example.

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Re: You missed a word...

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 1:02 PM
 

The ticket wasn't the issue it is the separation but you can continue to be dense.

I'd rather have kids who have camped out and are dedicated sit near the field than the kids who can afford to buy tickets. As much as this board moans about the frats showing up late in blocks and leaving early I think they would agree.

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This is an extreme comparison but


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 3:56 PM
 

that's a lot like saying that black and while people both HAD access to public restrooms and water fountains in the south before the civil rights movement.

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to be fair, only white, straight, Christian kids should have to pay the fee

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 4:54 PM
 

and there should be a quota of minority and LGBTQ students given lower deck seats for free. maybe after a few decades things might even out, but right now there's a lot of work needed to be done to even begin to start making things fair in this country.

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How about no fee

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 4:58 PM
 

The AD doesn't need the money.

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Re: to be fair, only white, straight, Christian kids should have to pay the fee


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 1:45 PM
 

no minority and gay students have to pay double.

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Welcome to the real world. Some sit in suites, some in


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 12:09 AM
 

the end zone.

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If you're paying $20,000 + a year for tuition and housing...

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:26 PM
 

$225 isn't going to break the bank....and if it's too much you can still get free tickets.

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Re: If you're paying $20,000 + a year for tuition and housing...

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 1:58 PM
 

My sister just got through paying for 4 years for her daughter and $225 can break the bank.... it could be the straw that breaks my sisters back! They both love Clemson and Clemson football. But when you are stretched to the limit, you are stretched to the limit and you do not have another $225!

A few semesters when i was at Clemson, it was a few weeks into the semester or a month before I could buy all my textbooks. Many go to Clemson that love the place and i wish that Clemson still loved them instead of just the money....

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I went to Clemson on loans and working a full time

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 7:17 PM
 

second shift job. I left with credit card debt for books and supplies. Yet I always had money for beer and hanging out. I would have worked and gotten the $225 and loved being able to get a group together without needing to all be in line together with our IDs.

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How do you think it will change the atmosphere?***


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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:25 AM
 

Title is very misleading and not fully true.

Per the Clemson Athletics FB page:

From Clemson Athletics FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/clemson-athletics/student-ticketing/1397762213574134


Student Ticketing
Clemson Athletics·Tuesday, April 12, 2016
Yesterday we had an opportunity to speak with several student leaders about our idea for an improved student ticketing plan, and with it changes to make the experience better for all of our fans. Unfortunately, following the meeting some secondhand information may have been misinterpreted following the discussion.

Within this new policy – which will be introduced next week – the athletic department will continue to provide an allotment of free tickets to students wanting to attend Clemson football games, just as they enjoy to each of our athletic events at no cost. We will also provide more seating for students, and new consolidated seating for students where they were spread across multiple sections previously. In an effort to allow those students who wished to reserve seating in the lower levels, we’d allow for the purchase of seats in those sections. Not unlike the current IPTAY Collegiate Club, this would provide those who wish to have better seating that opportunity. This will not be a fee, and certainly not mandatory.

You may have seen that a student took a moment to write up a petition and we want to address specifically the points therein:
-The athletic department does not receive money from tuition or fees. The $106 referenced is a fee for Campus Recreation, which goes to intramurals, Fike and other student affairs operations.
-This plan would effect only those who wish to attend football games in the lower level. It is not a new imposed fee, nor is it in any way mandatory.
-While students haven’t had to pay for tickets directly, those who wish for better seats have joined the IPTAY Collegiate Club. This new plan - along with an increased student allotment – allows for students who don’t wish to pay to still attend games in Memorial Stadium.
-In 2007, for the first time in its history, Clemson began a premium seat licensing plan. The benefits of those additional dollars have proved out in five consecutive seasons with 10+ wins and remarkable successes in all sports.
-Clemson is the only school in either the Atlantic Coast Conference, Big 12 or the Southeastern Conference to not have a student fee or charge for football season tickets.
-We appreciate the tremendous value our students provide at our sporting events. And we want to continue to provide not just a tremendous experience but also excellent teams for the entire Clemson Family.

We’ll continue to inform our students and fans about this improved student system in the coming weeks as we approach the end of the semester.


So per that, premium seating in the lower level will be available for purchase (without a fee), but students will STILL get free seating. They do not have to purchase seating, it is just an option if they want premium lower deck reserved seats.

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*You can still have free tickets*

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 3:58 PM
 

*In the corners of the upper deck where nobody will buy tickets anyway.

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can students sell the lower deck seats on StubHub like IPTAY members can?


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 4:59 PM
 

and still get a free seat in the upper deck? Imagine the fights when rivals are sitting in the student section.

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Re: can students sell the lower deck seats on StubHub like IPTAY members can?


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 9:11 PM
 

Your name should be printed on the ticket and you have to show your student id and ticket to get in. That would solve that.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 7:37 PM
 

Tuition costs are spiraling out of control along with record student loan debt. Are we so poor that this is really needed? I guess it frees up the seats to be sold at a higher price. Ruining a Clemson student tradition for the sake of money. Guess it is all about money now. Is this really the lesson we want to teach our students? Parents and students chose Clemson, not one of the other schools sited in the athletic department response. If we had wanted what happens else where we would have sent our children there instead of Clemson. I do not think this is a value consistent with those so successfully being taught by the Tiger coaching staff. We are allowing a man with no Clemson roots to sell our Tiger soul. Call your board members!

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This just seems like a short sighted approach.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:27 AM
 

Yes it will make more money in the near future, but In the long run I think this could have real negative impact on the atmosphere we have at our games which as everyone knows is lead mostly be the student section. If you want a home field advantage let the students go to the games for free but insist that they yell and cheer the whole way through.

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I notice that a LOT

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:38 AM
 

Of the student section is vacant after halftime. Perhaps this has something to do with the decision

Perhaps they will have to walk further if they are placed in the upper deck!

Put the real fans (supporters) in the real seats!

I think that many of the students come to the game for the party atmosphere that prevails. I often see things at games I totally do not like. Seeing a co-ed passed out on the sidewalk takes a lot away from the game. Imo

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Re: I notice that a LOT

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 6:25 PM
 

I'm at every game and the student section is no where near as empty as other parts of the stadium

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My first Clemson game was against Texas A&M in 2005...

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:35 AM
 

I was a true freshman watching from the hill. Both my parents grew up out-of-state and I had no to ties or prior experiences at Clemson. I remember watching Freshman James Davis' coming out party that game and Jad Dean drilling a 40+ yard game winner with seconds left in the fourth. This was the moment my blood turned orange, and I sure as heck wouldn't have been on that grass had it been $225.

I could go on and on about all the great memories I had camping out for tickets or all the away/bowl games I've had the opportunity to attend, but I'll keep this short. I just hope that this doesn't prevent any students new to the Clemson experience from discovering their own burning, fiery passion for Clemson athletics like I did that night in September.

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Re: My first Clemson game was against Texas A&M in 2005...


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:39 AM
 

I don't think it is counting the hill..that's still likely going to be a general admission ticket. I think this is in regards to the bleacher student section and lower deck bleacher seating vs upper deck.

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Re: My first Clemson game was against Texas A&M in 2005...

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:51 PM
 

The hill is a student section. This includes the hill.

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Your post suggests you would not be a Clemson fan

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:41 AM
 

If you had to watch that game or any other from the upper deck.

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As a sports fanatic, I'm sure that I personally would have..


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:49 AM
 

still had that moment--probably at that very game in the upper deck.

Not everyone's first Clemson game is going to be a 2005 A&M or a 2013 UGA, and I think that the hill experience as a Freshman is the best selling point for anyone that didn't grow up in the Clemson family.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:53 PM
 

There is zero atmosphere in the upper deck student section during most games. Everyone sits up there and rarely cheers. There are exceptions, like Notre Dame this year, but even then the atmosphere is nothing compared to being on the hill.

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Anyone who's watched a game as a student on the


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:55 PM
 

hill and in the nosebleed student section knows it's like apples and apples.

There's a spot in the upper deck student section where you can't even see the scoreboard (although that was the old scoreboard, maybe it's different now). I had to watch an FSU game from up there one year and it was not the same experience.

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$225 for a college student, is like $5000 to us graduates

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 1:16 PM
 

It seems like a discounted amount, but $225 to a college student who may make $4-5K working a summer job is a TON of money.

I think we are going to lose a lot of the most enthusiastic, energetic (and Broke) students to the upper deck

This will also take away from the gameday atmosphere, because the students add so much to that.

I am strongly against this

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Re: My first Clemson game was against Texas A&M in 2005...


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 2:27 PM
 

You weren't redshirted? Classic Bowden move, wasting a year of your eligibility.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:36 AM
 

After reading this I'm all for it. Im a student and next season will be my last. I love being able to go to every game for free but at the same time it is a hassle trying to fight for tickets. If they charge students for tickets then I think the ones who are truly dedicated to go to the games will still fill the seats. Those punks that get their ticket just in case and wind up being too hammered in the perking lot might decide not to pay. As of right now, if you don't pay the student Iptay fee and are a freshman then you can practically forget getting a ticket. And sophomores have a hard time as well. This might help students who will actually attend the games to get tickets. Then I also feel there are some students who didn't grow up with a silver spoon in their mouths and had to get scholarships to attend Clemson. Those students benefit from the free ticket system. So I see the argument from both sides.

Side not: I want to go on a rant about those students that get tickets and don't go in the game because they are passed out drunk in the parking lot. That pisses me off more than anything. There are a lot of students who would love to be in there and didn't get a ticket. Those a$$es just waste that ticket. I have seen it for three football seasons now. If you know you are going to rage on at the tailgate then just don't get a ticket. I mean have some d@mn consideration. Okay rant over.

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when does a studnet ever have to fight for tickets?


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:49 AM
 

a stadium that holds 83,000 can hold every single one of the 18,000 students

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Re: when does a studnet ever have to fight for tickets?

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:00 PM
 

Student tickets are distributed based on class and iptay. Iptay members get first dibs, then seniors, juniors, sophomores, and then freshman. Not all students get tickets. The online system was a crap shoot last season and many were left without tickets. I know students that were willing to pay over $100 for the ND game. When I say fighting I don't actually mean fighting. Accept when we used to have to wait in line around the stadium. I saw actual fights then.

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If I were still a student at Clemson I would love this

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:38 AM
 

No camping out or waiting in lines to get a ticket every week. Not having to get pizzed off because I did wait in line and still got stuck in the upper deck. $225 and I'm in the lower deck for every home game with no hassle.

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Re: If I were still a student at Clemson I would love this

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:41 AM
 

It went to an online system last year. There was no camping out.

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And how did that work for them?


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:45 AM
 

I'm guessing there were still a lot of headaches and hassle, with the season we had I bet there was a lot of complaining by the students over it. I'd still love to just pay $225 and not have to worry about tickets at all.

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Re: And how did that work for them?


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:02 PM
 

No doubt. Tons of headaches and students complaining that they waited online for two hours and still didn't get one. I love this new system

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Spoken like someone who's not a broke college student***


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Re: Spoken like someone who's not a broke college student***

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 1:58 PM
 

My man I served my time in the military and have saved my money. I get some help from the military to pay for college and i pay a good bit out of pocket. So what money I do have Ive earned. Daddy doesn't pay for my college.

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Don't care. You're still not a broke college student like me***


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Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 9:05 AM
 

Tough luck kid. Get a job! You know i always try to be nice on these boards but since you have no respect for me or those who have served their country I could care less that a punk like you can't afford to pay that price. You know Im technically a part of your generation but i don't have the attitude and lack of work ethic like most of my generation. Get a job and quit being lazy.

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Re: If I were still a student at Clemson I would love this


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:02 PM
 

Exactly. When I happened to have a Saturday off to go to a game, it was always so complicated just to get a ticket. I typically could not camp out because of work. I was always in the upper deck.

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We don't wait in line anyway.


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 1:16 PM
 

It was all computer based this year.

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That's a crappy deal.***

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There's something in these hills.


What about Hill tickets?


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:47 AM
 

I always contributed to IPTAY as a student, but only at the student level which was much less than the season ticket price proposed. However, I also always wanted to be on the Hill, not in the stands either in the lower or upper decks. So will students be charged to stand on the Hill?

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YOU CAN'T RUSH THE FIELD FROM THE UPPER DECK!

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:48 AM
 

Does everything HAVE to be a business transaction? When I was a student, you couldn't get anyone to do anything extra they had to pay for (outside of Greek life). That's why they always offered free food or t-shirts to get people to show up! I understand the concept that it essentially forces you to become an IPTAY member so you "own" your seat, but seems like they can generate revenue elsewhere. What is this extra revenue going towards? Giving the football team even more free stuff? So just exchanging pockets?

Now that the student "owns" their seat, what keeps them from selling it to the public for profit? I would. Now the "student section" is just Section A, followed by students not showing up. Sure, the upper deck is sufficient, but wouldn't you want the students to be "in with the action"?

Forget the petition, just don't buy the seats and don't show up. See how long that lasts until the athletic department changes their mind. Just sayin'. Don't let it backfire, then they'll sell those "student section tickets" to the public and it'll be lost forever!

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Lolololol! If students don't buy the tickets and don't show

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:52 AM
 

up, IPTAY will just sell the tickets to someone who will buy them and show up...and they'll get a he!l of a lot more than $225 for them.

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I think we found the answer.


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:53 AM
 

That's what IPTAY really wants out of all of this.

#conspiracy

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It's $225 to have a seat for every home game

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:00 PM
 

That's a dang good deal to watch a natty title run.

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Re: It's $225 to have a seat for every home game

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:06 PM
 

Hey - and I'll save money when my kids go by purchasing them a student season ticket instead of a regular season ticket.

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Re: It's $225 to have a seat for every home game


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 2:31 PM
 

Free is better, and also the way it should be.

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Re: I think we found the answer.


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:05 PM
 

That's what I said in my original post...@GWPTiger

"See how long that lasts until the athletic department changes their mind. Just sayin'. Don't let it backfire, then they'll sell those "student section tickets" to the public and it'll be lost forever!"

Either way, being 3 years removed, is ~$32/game that big of a deal now? No. When I was a student, however, I worked 2 jobs while a full time student just to have money for gas/food/utilities/needs, much less extra for entertainment. Sure, I had some scholarship, but not the full amount. My parents helped, when they could, the rest was student loan. So if the $225 is to be paid before the semester starts, student loan paid for it. Not worth it to me.

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Re: YOU CAN'T RUSH THE FIELD FROM THE UPPER DECK!


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 1:01 PM
 

Clemson FB has grown so that they don't have to give anything away to get people to come. You can't have it both ways most of the time. The best fun is in the winning!!!

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Re: YOU CAN'T RUSH THE FIELD FROM THE UPPER DECK!


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 10:43 PM
 

You can't rush the field from back at your dorm or frat house either. Cannot tell you how many times the lower deck student section is a ghost town after the half time of a game the student "fans" felt wasn't worth staying for. I suspect that will change when the seat they are leaving behind was paid for with hard cash by someone who had more invested than a wait in line.

Enough of the free S**T and fairness. Students need to learn the world is not fair and NOTHING is free. AGGHHHHHHH!

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You Can Rush But Likely Only Once And You May End Up


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 10:08 AM
 

About 200ft short after your first rush over the upper deck rail.

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Re: YOU CAN'T RUSH THE FIELD FROM THE UPPER DECK!


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 11:48 AM
 

Not a good plan. Many IPTAY boosters would love to have those seats.

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Clemson just keeps on getting greedy. Soon they will only be..


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:58 AM
 

selling tickets to corporations

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So much for the Clemson family slogan. Now the student section will be filled by opposing fans***

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Agree with all except opposing fans. THe ACC has no


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:15 PM
 

opposing fans that travel well enough to use their regular tickets. Will just be a lot more empty seats. Amazing greed on Clemson's part.

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IPTAY: I Pay Two-twenty five A Year

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:07 PM
 

Downright communist to take the student section out of the football games...I thought maybe someone in the Athletic Department had finally grown a brain when the new LJ seating is going to let the kids sit near the court, but now they pull this crap.

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Re: IPTAY: I Pay Two-twenty five A Year


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 2:07 PM
 

IPTTFAY

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yeah, dang, i can't grow some corn and potatos to pay with

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 6:34 PM
 

it that way anymore,either. dang progress. come on y'all MOST schools are charging too, and i would be willing to guess that all the perennial top 10 teams do.

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Wat happens when they sell out on lower deck student tics?


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:08 PM
 

and do you have to use a student ID on entry with the tic? What if a student buys a season ticket but can't go - for say a family death (just to keep the nutty trolls away from a legit answer) , does it go unused? - If a student bought it - as private property can't he sell it for market value?

I see a collegiate mafia making hay on this. As in all politics, the devil in the detail. We'll see Coot fans in the student section before this is over.

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I like the idea of the student ID's for entry...


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 3:17 PM
 

That would eliminate the "resale" of tickets and encourage only those planning on going to buy them. As far as "unable to attend", maybe a credit for games you can't attend with 24 hour notice? That would allow for IPTAY to sell the ticket to a student on a wait list...

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:09 PM
 

As a student my only concern is how it will be enforced. They went to online general admission last year and would just email PDFs out to students and I knew plenty of people that would just Photoshop their ticket to get the section they wanted. It was kind of a joke. Since next year is my half victory lap and 5th/final football season I have no problem paying for tickets, as I have been an IPTAY contributor since freshman year and have sat in the lower deck every home game and haven't missed any yet, I just hope that there is a way of enforcing seating, either with having real tickets with your seat number and section clearly printed or some other way. My only concern is that the students will pay the $225 and seating will end up like the joke it was last season.

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Attendance will drop. Middle school Econ, if price goes up

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:13 PM
 

quantity demanded goes down. This is amazing greed on the university's part. IF not for the students, there would be no school, therefore no football team. How many millions the school makes a year on football. Makes you want to rethink giving to some of the donations like Alumni Association, Loyalty Fund, even IPTAY.

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Paying the bills does not = greed.***

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Middle school econ would be more like "Supply & Demand"

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:40 PM
 

The supply of seats in DV is limited and there is plenty of demand.

Attendance will definitely not go down.

Right or wrong, love it or hate it, I can almost guarantee you that the Clemson AD knows they have ready buyers for any tickets the students don't buy.

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And he'd rather have those 50,60, 70 year olds where the


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 8:21 PM
 

students used to be. That will certainly be a change in atmosphere. I'm not putting those age groups down as I am in one of those groups, but to have them in that section and students out of sight is not good.

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You said attendance would go down ...


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 9:37 PM
 

... I was simply refuting that notion.

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I think it will go down. Some of those corners in the upper


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 9:44 PM
 

deck aren't full as it is.

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I think attendance will go up next year and every year that


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 10:00 PM
 

the team continues to put a championship product on the field. Demand will sky rocket for all seats just like it did during the 1980s.

The fact that there have been gaps in the upper decks for some games over the past 10-15 years is not an indication that there is not a huge demand for the lower level tickets.

It just means that the same people who wouldn't ever pay to sit in the nose bleed section will snap up any lower level tickets that become available due to lack of ability/willingness to pay on the part of students.

And then band wagon fans will accept the crappy nose bleed seats to see "Their Tigers" play as long as they're winning.

I'm not trying to justify or support Clemson's decision on this matter ... I'm just stating a fact.

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The seats in the upper deck aren't


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 9:22 PM
 

bad seats. I've sat up there plenty of times. In fact, they're very good seats. You can see the whole field, the plays take shape, etc.. The students will either be fine with sitting up there and like it, or they just won't bother to come to the game if they're not going to be in lower bowl. The problem is not the seats, the problem is the student section will lose students and intensity at field level.

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Re: The seats in the upper deck aren't


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 11:30 PM
 

Yeah the student section is always the most intense… Not for the squeamish!

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What's the policy on this at Bama, Ohio St., Notre Dame, etc


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:17 PM
 

Are we in the process of creating an entirely new seating policy that is radically different from what is being done at other schools that field teams that routinely play for national championships?

I know that when I was at Clemson 1969-1973, the students had some of the best seats in the stadium, but there was a reason for that. We were not playing for any sort of championships and were winning 3-5 games per year on average.

Now that the program is beginning to reach the level most fans have aspired to on the field, is the AD doing anything that they're not doing at other play-off caliber programs?

I don't know the answer, so this is actually a serious question ...

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Re: What's the policy on this at Bama, Ohio St., Notre Dame, etc


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:30 PM
 

According to the Alabama website all tickets are $10 per game and you buy them in packages. So both LSU and Ole Miss games cost students a whopping $10. Notre Dame is $245 but you have to apply and hope you receive a spot.

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Re: What's the policy on this at Bama, Ohio St., Notre Dame, etc


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 1:00 PM
 

It's not that easy though. I know a couple people that go there and it's either done by seniority or a raffle (I can't remember) but she said that most freshmen and sophomores don't manage to get tickets. I may be wrong though, just what I was told.

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I remember being pzzed when I had to buy tickets as a grad


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:20 PM
 

student because I only paid $300 a semester for tuition. (Plus I got a sweet $500 a month salary)

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Hate this idea. Lord knows tuition is high enough.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:26 PM
 

Give the kids a #### break. They have their entire lives to be badgered by IPTAY, alumni funds, etc. to give. Spending thousands of dollars for tuition is enough.

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Re: New Story: Students to be charged for football tickets


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:28 PM
 

Great, maybe the lower student section will not be empty after halftime.

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Re: New Story: Students to be charged for football tickets

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:35 PM
 

if we start going 3-8, going to be empty down there...as opposed to still full of passionate students

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:42 PM
 



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~$32 per game. I'd pay that for a guaranteed spot***

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See-thru sun dresses. Fantastic bargain folks***


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Re: New Story: Students to be charged for football tickets

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:47 PM
 

Apparently paying $40,000 a year and my $40 to iptay isn't enough to guarantee me a good seat to watch my tigers play. You would think they would want loud fans and not the ones who can afford to pay. What a lot of y'all seem to forget is that those who would pay for these are the same students that leave at halftime because they don't care. They will have their parents pay regardless.

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TD. This looks like nothing more than the AD trying to


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:52 PM
 

capitalize on the peaking popularity of CU football. Students shouldn't have to pay $225/year to stand on the Hill.

I have no doubt the AD budget was close to, if not in, the red last year due to the expense of the CFB playoff trips but turning the students upside down and shaking their pockets for change is not the answer.

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$1.8M / 55k season tickets = $32 per season ticket

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:53 PM
 

I think students are a big part of the game. Furthermore, I think that letting students attend free was one of the good things that separated Clemson from the lesser schools. I would be willing to pay an extra $32 for them to go free. I suppose a $225 fee to go to the front of the line would be ok, but I wouldn’t want to see a student prevented from going to a game just because they don’t have the cash. Ever hear of a broke student?

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Re: $1.8M / 55k season tickets = $32 per season ticket


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 12:56 PM
 

Yes, they are the ones in the upper deck with them all sitting together and having a blast!!!

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Re: $1.8M / 55k season tickets = $32 per season ticket


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 4:07 PM
 

That is only a fraction of them. I am sure there are more than 3300 broke students at Clemson who want to go to games.

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Re: New Story: Students to be charged for football tickets

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 1:11 PM
 

I have no problem with this plan but I do see one big negative. Right now, and hopefully for years to come, we have a great team that everyone wants to see on the field. What happens 10, 15, or 20 years from now if the program slips and is only winning 6 or 7 games. There will probably be a lot of empty seats in the lower level student section.

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Yeah impact the noise and rowdy students to upper deck


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 1:39 PM
 

Radogohomevich you are dismissed...

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Re: Yeah impact the noise and rowdy students to upper deck


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 3:09 PM
 

It won't make a difference. Students don't watch game anyhow. Bimbos walk up and down a dozen times in the first half. The male students go back and forth with Coke and nachos an barely make it to the top they are so out of shape

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Re: New Story: Students to be charged for football tickets

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 1:46 PM
 

It is unbelievable that Clemson would announce a huge raise for the head coach and that students will now be charged extra for something that has always been part of tuition and fees at the same time. The student section has always been a major part of the Clemson Family tradition. This is an insult to the student body, the alumni, and everybody else who supports Clemson.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 2:01 PM
 

Is Clemson now aspiring to be "just like" everyone else? I thought it was being different that made the place special and attractive to so many students and recruits.

There's something in these hills... greed.

I guess the administration is "all in" in having everyone pay more and more and more to support this team. Football is indeed lovely, and I have very much respected the program to date... but between the new operations center, the new coach raises (bonuses, cars, free tickets to all revenue sports, etc., etc., etc,) and this plan, the well is being poisoned. Is this the right "race" for Clemson to be in? The football "arms race"?

And this is just the beginning. I can't wait to see what future years will bring.

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BAD DECISION!!!!

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 2:06 PM
 

Is it really worth it Rad? What next...no fans allowed on the football field after the game because everyone else is doing it? Seems like Rad would be a good gubermint official...figure out creative ways to charge money.

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Sorry folks! This is the price you pay ...

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 2:09 PM
 

... for woo-hooing and ignoring two fights and a d@mmit.

We tried to warn you.

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if they pay $225, they'll most likely be around for the

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 2:34 PM
 

2nd half of the game, eh?

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Free tickets for students is a great thing


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 3:14 PM
 

Way too many students take in a small portion of the game and leave for other endeavors. The true Clemson student fans will be in the right seats to pull for a Tiger win. Clemson is the last major university to provide free football and basketball tickets to their students. It was going to happen that a plan such as this was destined to be approved. It will also be accepted soon because it provides an assigned seat for all games at a reasonable price and still accommodates those students who want a free ticket that many of us would love to have. Enjoy the experience because many students will never get an opportunity to visit Clemson for a football game again. That is reality.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 2:58 PM
 

Few issues here:

First, if a good chunk of students purchase LD tickets at $225 each, who gets the better seats????
If you go by IPTAY points or something along that line it is going to HIGHLY segregate the rich kids from the middle class (and the poor will just be up there in the TD). This is wrong.

Second, if you can allot your tickets in groups this will be extremely difficult to do specifically first year students. It would almost be assumed paying these dues would have to happen first thing in the fall semester where you have not join a Fraternity/Sorority or solidified a group of friends. You will basically be buying a seat by yourself or with a small group of acquaintances/new roommate and be stuck there all season. Hopefully this will just be based on some loyalty system where the more you attend sporting events and your class will give you benefit of getting better seats, but this of course would be trumped regardless by Fraternity and Sorority groups who will gladly pay to get a large group together and have the benefit of the long standing loyalty...

Third, everyone is talking about being fans and would gladly pay but for incoming students specifically students who weren't football fans before, you will most definitely restrict Clemson fan growth. As a student I was not a big college football fan but liked NFL, the experience of going to a game and sitting down low in the roar of the student section was the part that pulled me in. New students males/females who try to get into it, won't be encapsulated by the crowd as they would the first time they sat in the lower section.

I hear you blah blah blah, they don't deserve the same as you "Diehard" Clemson fans but they shouldn't be looked at less due to not being "bred" a Clemson fan...

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I don't see any down side to your second point...


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 3:31 PM
 

I am not a student, and can't afford season tickets. Yet, every time I manage to get my hands on some, I instantly make friends with those sitting around me. Wouldn't you think that having a "seat-mate" that is the same for every game build a friendship? Not saying that they would become "best friends", but maybe a friend they wouldn't have met otherwise.

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Re: I don't see any down side to your second point...


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 3:35 PM
 

Absolutely but you can't say that for every person. My second point wasn't my main concern but I was hoping to get more answers on how they plan on implementing this plan more than making friends. Like when do you decide on your group, when do you pay, who gets the better seats, etc.

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That's a lot of big game atmosphere and noise lost from the


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 3:04 PM
 

lower bowl!

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This just doesn't sit well with me. I'm already paying two..

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 4:07 PM
 

Clemson tuitions and other fees and really feel like my girls should get to enjoy the games without having to further compete with the "rich" kids. Whatever!

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 4:42 PM
 

it's not that big a deal. Tuition is over $7,000 per semester now. My daughter is in an apartment for $400 a month plus the money I give her for food and the costs of books. This all adds up to about $2,000 per month on average. Basically 1/10 of this to sit in a great stadium, in the lower deck, and watch a top 10 team is a good deal.

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Do we want to be different or the same as other schools?


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 5:30 PM
 

One of the toughest things to do is take away something or start charging for something that has been free, but I agree this is something they should consider. I can see just as many arguments to not charge as to charge, but think this is very reasonable.

What drives me crazy, though, is how much the school likes to point out "there is something different in these hills" and what makes us special from other schools and teams, but then when is comes to justifying higher dues, ticket prices, etc, they like to compare us with everyone else and point out how far out of line we are.

Part of what makes Death Valley special is the fans and the students are a huge part of that and having them on the hill and in the lower deck makes it a lot louder and tougher for opponents. I would rather see very strict rules about students that get free tickets MUST stay in their seats from kickoff until the game is over. For those that want to duck out early, they can have the option to pay for their seats since they are keeping them from others that may want them.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 5:45 PM
 

####, pay it or dont pay it. Just quit whining about it on every website that has an article about it. Seat your but in your dorm and watch it for free on tv. There, fixed. And i get better seats

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So...I guess some of you think the Clemson crowds

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 7:20 PM
 

in Miami and Glendale were dull because it was only the people who could afford to go?

You would be wrong. They were both absolutely electric.

So there goes that theory. Moving on...

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Hmmm...

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 7:33 PM
 

That's $4.32 per week. A meal at Chic-Fil-A costs more than that; a movie ticket is 3 times more expensive...

Start saving up and relax - just get water with you next meal and you will have that $225 saved up in no time.

Great bargain for great seats, for a great team.

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Re: Hmmm...

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 7:35 PM
 

Great post. I agree. Sounds a little harsh, but the reality of it is that it is really not too expensive, relative to other indulgences.

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Re: Hmmm...

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 7:47 PM
 

I am so sick of these whinny students who feel they are always entitled to everything! I know I am one of those old farts who graduated in 1979. I was in a fraternity but privileged, I was not! My dad worked in the mill and mom was a secretary. It was quite a sacrifice for them to give me the education they never got. Any extracurricular activities were up to me. I worked for $3.25 and hour to pay my dues of $140 a semester which was a lot more money than $225 in today's dollars.
If you want something bad enough, do something about it and don't complain!!!

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Re: Hmmm...


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 9:44 PM
 

And I'm guessing your college tuition was also $20,000+ in today's dollars? Probably not.....

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Re: New Story: Students to be charged for football tickets


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 7:52 PM
 

It's great that we're the only ones to rush the field.

It's great that we're the only ones to have a pizza party and meet a coach's spring game challenge.

It's great that we're the only ones with that family atmosphere.

But be the only ones not making money off the backs of the least of us? Well we've gotta be like everybody else and squeeze them for a buck.

Read between the lines people - 3,300 free tickets is a drop in the student body bucket. when we're looking for the electricity to start in that stadium we all know where we look - and it's not in the upper deck. And forget that it will help friends sit together or avoid waiting in a line - friends' parents dont all have the same bank account - so it will definately divide and damage our student section.

We have something special in a gameday experience and we've touted it to kingdom come - now they're going to sell out the backbone of the spirit - the kids.

The next few years will undoubtedly be the most lucrative in our school history, we don't need to penalize the kids. The adults and alumni are already getting squeezed by the johnny-come-latelys. Just remember, when we fall off this wave, the kids will still be there - those that are only Tigers when we're in contention won't.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 10:09 PM
 

agree with you keep the students like they are. . I am old iptay donor but i cannot yell and love the noise from the hill and students

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Feel the Bern fans can suck it.


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 8:16 PM
 

I'm for whatever makes the most money for the football program. Students can sit up top. Less seats for GT fans. Students don't deserve $250 seats.

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Not a student but


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 8:35 PM
 

Pretty disappointed by this. College is expensive enough.

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are they in same lower deck area or did they move students


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 9:25 PM
 

to a less desireable area and also dilute to tremendous crowd noise at the hill

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I'm with the students on this....they help make the

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Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 9:47 PM
 

atmosphere.

I've always been a proponent of students having better tixs for basketball games b/c so many tix holders don't show.

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Are you kidding me?


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 10:01 PM
 

Real bad idea. Some things just aren't worth the money. Make it up somewhere else. College is about the students, not the fans.

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Re: New Story: Students to be charged for football tickets


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 10:09 PM
 

$225 for guaranteed seats in the lower-deck is outrageous? Wait until you get out in the real world. I pay $3200.00 + the price of the tickets & sit in the upper deck. $225 is a great deal compared to other P-5s. I can foresee a downturn in the atmosphere though. Having all the students in one section increased the noise quite a bit, I think. I believe that they were the leaders in keeping the spirit up. There is a limit to how much noise us 70 year old fans can sustain. An extra puff on the inhaler won't enable me to make up for the students being scattered.


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Re: DRadikovich@clemson.edu ?


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 10:30 PM
 

Is that it ?

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Seems absolutely fair. State the facts and move on...


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 10:31 PM
 

If you want to live in the past or feel comfortable with 6-7 win seasons then be on board with free student tickets. Besides, Clemson students recently haven't been attending the games. Just the facts. Open it up for paying attendees, especially while there is demand.

The reality is that while "college football" is big money, athletic departments struggle with profit margins. You have to make it where we can. Clemson isn't a large institution, doesn't receive a great amount of state funding and football supports many other subpar programs.

It's just facts and reality...

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Re: Seems absolutely fair. State the facts and move on...


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 10:43 PM
 

> If you want to live in the past or feel comfortable
> with 6-7 win seasons then be on board with free
> student tickets. Besides, Clemson students recently
> haven't been attending the games. Just the facts.
> Open it up for paying attendees, especially while
> e there is demand.
>
> The reality is that while "college football" is big
> money, athletic departments struggle with profit
> margins. You have to make it where we can. Clemson
> isn't a large institution, doesn't receive a great
> amount of state funding and football supports many
> other subpar programs.
>
> It's just facts and reality...

Do you have any idea how much kids are being charged for school right now? They're the first generation to experience more poverty than their parents. And it's because of greedy, uninformed, business-savvy-wannabe-######## like yourself in positions of power as to why it's come about. But WTH, Clemson athletics is really hurting for cash right now, let's raise tuition again so we can survive? Lol

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Re: Seems absolutely fair. State the facts and move on...


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 10:47 PM
 

That was a great rant.... Maybe Bernie can help pay for football too. Did you also just call me a ########?

I played football for this University. You're more than welcome to say that to me or have this argument personally.

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Re: Seems absolutely fair. State the facts and move on...


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:26 PM
 

> That was a great rant.... Maybe Bernie can help pay
> for football too. Did you also just call me a
> ########?
>
> I played football for this University. You're more
> than welcome to say that to me or have this argument
> personally.

I'll kick your pansy ### right in your front yard. Was it in the 70s? When 4 years of tuition totaled $100? Understandable, the level of ignorance, i guess...

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Did not read posts, but I'm gonna call bull #### on a ticket fee not already being part of tuition***


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 10:38 PM
 



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Re: New Story: Students to be charged for football tickets


Posted: Apr 12, 2016, 11:00 PM
 

At the risk of being repetitive - let me sign this position too!
Probably no coincidence a story of a new huge contract for Dabo and ticket fees come out the same day. I find it hard to believe that Dabo would want more money at the expense of the students. Student section in the UPPER DECK - as they say on SNL REALLY!
Students that want to be ALL IN and come to the games should be there - not only the ones that have the money to go! I don't care who else charges - we are NOT everyone else, or at least I thought we weren't.
Very disappointed at this.

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This is a punk b!tch money-grab move by the AD, nothing less


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 6:36 AM
 

I'm really disappointed in this decision. Students already have enough expenses to contend with during the year and most of them are taking on crushing student debt to fund it. Now Clemson is telling them they have to pay another couple hundred bucks to support a team that they're already EXPECTED to show up and support. This is nothing less than the athletic department trying to squeeze every last penny out of its supporters and their "explanation" is simply putting lipstick on a pig. Radakovich should be ashamed of himself for exploiting the student body like this.

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Work on lowering costs, not raising fees


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 6:41 AM
 

Just like some of us have to do in the real business world

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What a crappy way to generate revenue. Very sad day.***


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 7:08 AM
 



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Why does Clemson have to be like other crappy schools, Dan?


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 9:22 AM
 

Students pay enough in tuition and fees... More each year than the top donors in Iptay. These policies which have become more frequently introduced since the early 2000s where Clemson is nickle and diming students at every chance is a reason donations will inevitably drop off from graduates. I know from my time there from 2003 to 2008 the list of fees added on top of tuition tripled. Enough is enough...

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I Get It But Don't Like It


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 10:04 AM
 

Ideally you want an engaged and rowdy loud student section in the lower bowl. I think there are some 2nd and 3rd order consequences from this that will hurt the overall DV experience.

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Re: New Story: Students to be charged for football tickets


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 1:40 PM
 

Clemson's AD once again does something anti-Clemson and anti-Clemson Nation. True Clemson is last big conference school to not charge students athletic fees or charge them for tickets. IPTAY is what made Clemson programs great not stealing from students. With all the bonus money paid to coaches making it too championship games sounds stupid making money back via student tickets.

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Re: New Story: Students to be charged for football tickets


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 2:00 PM
 

Funny how we lasted this long AND CAME THIS FAR without charging students. Now that we are doing good and getting recognition, there is a need for more $$?? To the administration, it just isn't fair that other schools have their students pay.

The only way this could be delayed is if the students stand up against it. No, really THE FOOTBALL TEAM WOULD HAVE TO PROTEST THIS decision. This is above event the coaching staff.

Most of the players are not the type to be insubordinate, though - they are all good guys (unlike MIZZ's or OK's players). In the end, everyone will likely pay to line the AD's & President's pockets. (Why else would we need the extra $$? The school is supposedly state funded by taxpayers, bonus $ is pouring in from sponsors, endorsements, and past ticket sales... the players will not ever get paid.)

Glad I graduated. I will pay with everyone else.

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Re: New Story: Students to be charged for football tickets


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 2:00 PM
 

Funny how we lasted this long AND CAME THIS FAR without charging students. Now that we are doing good and getting recognition, there is a need for more $$?? To the administration, it just isn't fair that other schools have their students pay.

The only way this could be delayed is if the students stand up against it. No, really THE FOOTBALL TEAM WOULD HAVE TO PROTEST THIS decision. This is above event the coaching staff.

Most of the players are not the type to be insubordinate, though - they are all good guys (unlike MIZZ's or OK's players). In the end, everyone will likely pay to line the AD's & President's pockets. (Why else would we need the extra $$? The school is supposedly state funded by taxpayers, bonus $ is pouring in from sponsors, endorsements, and past ticket sales... the players will not ever get paid.)

Glad I graduated. I will pay with everyone else.

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Virginia


Posted: Apr 13, 2016, 4:38 PM
 

"'Virginia, the leader in the clubhouse at $670 per student and generating 13 million dollars for their athletic program each and every year.' [Radakovich] said."

Why on earth would we want to be MORE like Virginia? It doesn't seem like that has worked out that well for them...

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