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A caller said on Mickey's show this a.m. that Flowe
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:34 AM
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posted a video on his Instagram where he shouted "F#@k Clemson!"
I'm guessing that should pretty much seal it, if true.
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All-In [82076]
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that's okay...
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:35 AM
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we didn't really want him anyway
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To be honest, he was overrated
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:36 AM
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and I doubt he would've even gotten accepted. Not to mention the off the field stuff. He would've been a disruption in the locker room. Plus, whoever he picks obviously cheated.
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Re: To be honest, he was overrated
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:37 AM
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Don't forget that his handlers wanted money too.
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Heisman Winner [104509]
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That's true. I think we dodged a bullet with this one
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:42 AM
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he can be someone else's headache for a while.
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Re: To be honest, he was overrated
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 12:17 PM
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I agree! The film that I saw on him where plays where he wasn’t blocked and blew up a ball carrier.
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Re: To be honest, he was overrated
Posted: Dec 17, 2019, 3:11 PM
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He wasn't getting paid...
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Re: To be honest, he was overrated
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:50 AM
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????????
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Hall of Famer [20509]
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While all that is true, the real killer for missed recruit Is that
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 11:25 AM
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He clearly is afraid to play with the big boys in the acc atlantic. I don't blame him, he doesn't have acc speed or physicality.
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Probably wouldn't even make our 2-deep for several
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 11:33 AM
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years. He'd be more of a project than an early contributor.
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All-In [45864]
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Re: that's okay...
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:36 AM
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Exactly.
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Re: that's okay...
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:41 AM
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Does this mean he has changed his mind ??
It had been reported many times on TNET that he was a ""LOCK"" --
how can a kid go against all that ???
Just can't trust these younger generation kids !!!!!!
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Re: that's okay...
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:45 AM
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All I know is that if he really said that that I am glad he changed course.
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Re: that's okay...
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 10:04 AM
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Aesop knew this would happen when he wrote The fox and grapes. When the fox tried and tried to get the grapes and couldnt, he finally said I didn't want the grapes anyway.
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Re: that's okay...
Posted: Dec 17, 2019, 2:48 PM
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I heard we pulled the offer and why he reacted like that.
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This staff doesn’t seem to screw around with all
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:40 AM
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The shameless, unadulterated flattery, worship and bs these guys are used to getting so when they do have a line drawn for them sometimes kids can’t handle it. I do love the way they seem to handle recruiting and we should be thankful
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Re: A caller said on Mickey's show this a.m. that Flowe
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:45 AM
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If true. Important qualifier.
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I don't know if that happened or not but...
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:45 AM
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some service now have him trending to Oregon based, at least in part, on Clemson getting a commitment from Trenton Simpson on Saturday.
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Re: I don't know if that happened or not but...
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:46 AM
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Obviously Simpson isn't why Flowe changed his mind. They would have played at the same time.
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I was thinking about it more from a...
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:49 AM
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numbers perspective rather than a position standpoint.
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yes...
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:51 AM
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the scenario I stated below would explain a possible expletive-laced rant against Clemson by Flowe, if he indeed said it.
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All-In [82076]
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although Flowe and Simpson play a different position...
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:47 AM
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scholarship numbers come into play. It is quite possible that Flowe would not commit and when the staff secured Simpson, they told Flowe there was no longer a scholarship for him.
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Re: although Flowe and Simpson play a different position...
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:57 AM
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These are all kids...let Dabo get 3&4 stars with great attitudes and they will be all 5 star plus by their soph season...a famous philosopher once said "don't sweat the petty stuff & don't pet the sweaty stuff"... the Clemson coaching staff has done a good job of picking great ones and most of them didn't start out as a constellation, just small solar systems! Good coaching can make the difference..just look at Dumbo Fishnet at Texas A&M more five stars than the whole ACC and he still can't win even with 7.5m$/yr...ain't life grand!
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Re: although Flowe and Simpson play a different position...
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:03 AM
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We would probably still take him as a preferred walk-on though if he promised to control the potty mouth. 
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Re: although Flowe and Simpson play a different position...
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:47 AM
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I am not sure why so many on here freak out when another Tnetter posts what he heard on our flagship station’s morning show. He wasn’t advocating that Flowe is taking cash, or isn’t talented; he was just simply stating what he heard on the radio. I was listening this morning and heard the same comments. Some additional things Mickey said, which he admits are some speculation;
1) Flowe has strong west coast ties and extended family pressuring him to stay at home.
2) During Flowe’s On campus visit there was some player feedback that he may not be a good cultural fit with our program. Not a bad guy, but was described as brash.
3)Flowe wouldn’t pull the trigger on a commitment or give the staff a strong indication of a future commitment, even after BV went to the west coast for an in home visit.
4)On the other hand, Simpson wanted to be a tiger in the biggest way, even had his mom pay for a ticket to the ACC championship game which he attended decked out in Clemson attire; even without a formal offer on the table.
5)Simpson is a highly rated 5 star, with comparisons to Vic Beasley so the staff wasn’t settling on a much lower level recruit.
Mickey speculates that CU went with the player that really wanted to be here vs the one that was continuing to be non-committal. There were no knocks on Flowe’s talent level; as he obviously deserves the recruiting ranking he has. At the end of the day CU isn’t a good fit for everyone and the thought is the staff offered the next best guy we could get who was definitely All In.
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Re: I don't know if that happened or not but...
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 11:54 AM
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^^^this is exactly what happened. We took the other LB this weekend and are no longer recruiting J Flow.
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if true, sounds to me that Flowe is not of the character we
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:51 AM
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want at Clemson. Welcome Simpson!!!
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Re: A caller said on Mickey's show this a.m. that Flowe
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 8:57 AM
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Link?
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I don't have one. Just repeating what the caller said
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:07 AM
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on Mickey's show. Listened to it while driving into work.
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Re: I don't have one. Just repeating what the caller said
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:08 AM
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Except a caller didn't say that. Mickey read a text.
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All-TigerNet [14392]
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Sorry, texter then.***
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:32 AM
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Re: I don't have one. Just repeating what the caller said
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 10:08 AM
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I just checked his Instagram, nothing of the sort on there.
Nothing on his Twitter either.
I call bs
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Re: I don't have one. Just repeating what the caller said
Posted: Dec 17, 2019, 1:16 PM
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You're not going to find it on Flowe's social media it was on a USC (our USC, the West Coast one) player's IG live stream. The player is Chris Steele, famous for being a USC commit that signed with Florida and enrolled there for spring ball, then his roomie was accused of bad things and Steele was able to transfer with no penalty. He signed FinAid papers at Oregon, then at the last second went to USC.
Anyway, he and Flowe were together at USC during Flowe's official visit. On the IG story Steele went to trash talk Clemson and Oregon with Flowe joining in. I'm not sure of all the details and who said what, but apparently it was all positive USC things. Oregon fans saw the live stream because some still follow Steele.
Before that we were getting pretty confident it was looking good for Oregon, but now we're thinking that the "USC family" that are friends of the program *paid* a visit  as they tend to do around this time of year.
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Didn't see that, but he is wearing an Southern Cal hoodie***
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:03 AM
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Re: A caller said on Mickey's show this a.m. that Flowe
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:07 AM
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Cut it with the "he was overrated" or "we really didn't want him" BS. Statements like that are absolutely ridiculous and frankly "cootish". Flowe is a generational LB coming out of HS. NFL scouts are already watching him. He's a big time difference maker and we'd be fortunate to have him on our team. So don't try to make yourself feel better if he decides to go another direction.
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Re: A caller said on Mickey's show this a.m. that Flowe
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:09 AM
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Exactly! A picture says a 1000 words
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:13 AM
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Re: A caller said on Mickey's show this a.m. that Flowe
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:28 AM
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Pretty sure they were throwing out all the excuses you hear when something like this happens with a touch of irony. You really couldn't tell when they used every example in the book in one post?
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My guess is you usually miss the whole sarcasim thing.***
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If true, we dont want someone who acts that...
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:21 AM
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Way anyway.
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He tried to F us.
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:23 AM
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He'll regret it the rest of his life.
Starting next year.
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I'm not up to date on the Tweeties and Insta posts...
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:31 AM
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But when I got on Ask Jeeves and googled it, I didn't see it. He must've taken it down if it is true.
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Hey GUYS..calm down & realize that caller &/or social media lie!
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:35 AM
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Saying..be patient & the truth will come out sooner than later.
Go TiGERS!
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Re: Hey GUYS..calm down & realize that caller &/or social media lie!
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 10:34 AM
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First I learn that everything on the internet isn’t true. Now callers and social media? ??
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Re: A caller said on Mickey's show this a.m. that Flowe
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:35 AM
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Not seeing any video like that on his account and in fact he still has a video of his tour of our football facility and is very complimentary to us in it.
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Re: A caller said on Mickey's show this a.m. that Flowe
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:37 AM
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Rumors unless someone can show the video. Until then everyone needs to chill.
I of course don’t know what’s going to happen but this kid can play. I hope he comes to Clemson.
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Re: A caller said on Mickey's show this a.m. that Flowe
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Just checked and I didn't see or hear anything like that. I still think we get him and there's just a lot of smoke being blown for Oregon. Either way they kid is a headhunter and may take a min to adjust to CBV still of defense, but he definitely isn't overrated.
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Re: A caller said on Mickey's show this a.m. that Flowe
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:40 AM
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After David Hood said he was no longer following his recruitment I took that to mean he isn't coming, but we'll see.
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^^^ This ^^^ ... Hood knows stuff. ***
Posted: Dec 17, 2019, 1:25 PM
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Re: A caller said on Mickey's show this a.m. that Flowe
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:44 AM
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You left out the middle part which was " ... I can't wait to get to ... "
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Sould be easy enough to find. Post a link for us
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Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 9:47 AM
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or just repeat made up bullship
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Re: Sould be easy enough to find. Post a link for us
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 10:05 AM
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I looked him up on Instagram and there is nothing on there about this. Of course he could’ve deleted it but it’s not there currently
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Re: Sould be easy enough to find. Post a link for us
Posted: Dec 17, 2019, 1:39 PM
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It was never on his Instagram. It was on Chris Steele's instagram live feed when they were together.
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Re: A caller said on Mickey's show this a.m. that Flowe
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 10:52 AM
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Looked all over Flowe's Instagram site. There is not a post like that on his site. How about a link? Yeah, didn't think so.
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This thread started with such promising, quality
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 11:47 AM
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Sarcasm...and before midway in, posers started gettin' all serious. Stop, already...get back to the sarcasm...much more fun!
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Maybe someone asked him about the coots
Posted: Dec 16, 2019, 11:44 AM
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And he said.... Fu(& that! Clemson all the way baby!
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