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Will the Court at LittleJohn ever be named after Brownell?
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Jul 19, 2024, 10:30 AM
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Just asking. He has been here a long time.
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He's our all-time leader in wins, NCAA Tournament wins, ACC winning percentage
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Jul 19, 2024, 10:39 AM
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and is unparalleled in terms of our players' academic accomplishments.
I'd say he deserves it.
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Of course you do.***
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Jul 19, 2024, 10:47 AM
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Of course you don't.***
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Jul 19, 2024, 10:48 AM
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Did I say that? No, I didn't.
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Jul 19, 2024, 10:50 AM
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While I support Clemson and the basketball team, I am not a sycophant.
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Re: Did I say that? No, I didn't.
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Jul 19, 2024, 6:17 PM
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It forgot to state also the leader in losses in Clemson history.
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Those statistics are certainly diluted by...
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Jul 19, 2024, 10:55 AM
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the number of years he's been here. You would expect the "forever" coach to have more of everything. The thing he doesn't have a lot of is notable postseason success. Instances of notable postseason success are statistical outliers, especially considering how long he's been here. His most notable accomplishment is finally ending the drought in Chapel Hill.
If you disagree with that, then answer this question your honor: Will Brownell be able to build on last year's success? Will we be competitive in the ACC this year? Any chance for a deep ACC tournament run? You probably follow our basketball program as closely as anyone here... what are your predictions for the '24-'25 Tiger Hoopsters?
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Facts will only confuse him...
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Jul 19, 2024, 12:08 PM
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or be summarily ignored or dismissed as anti-CBB rhetoric.
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Well, I did post facts.
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Jul 19, 2024, 12:44 PM
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Unfortunately, those who have a problem with Brownell - and who oddly enough still criticize him despite having what is arguably our best season in program history last year - don't seem to care.
They always try to explain it away by using his longevity at Clemson against him. I find that really weird, since he has obviously done something right to keep his job and continue getting raises and extensions. He's also very devoted to Clemson, something some of our previous coaches cannot say.
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The goalposts move the second we advance...We could have won it all and there
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Jul 19, 2024, 3:34 PM
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would still be people whining "but but but 14 years"
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He has had more postseason success than anyone else
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Jul 19, 2024, 12:42 PM
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who has coached our men's basketball program.
His NCAA Tournament winning percentage is better than everyone besides Bill Foster, who benefits from only making it once but doing really well when he got there (3-1).
Brad's NCAA Tournament winning percentage is better than Cliff Ellis, Rick Barnes, and Oliver Purnell's Clemson tenures.
Regarding next year, losing PJ Hall is a big loss for sure. However, I really like who we have coming back as well as our additions through high school recruiting and the transfer portal. I expect us to once again be very competitive in the ACC and put ourselves in a great position for another NCAA Tournament.
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We would've, except they either weren't good enough or bailed on Clemson.
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Jul 19, 2024, 12:46 PM
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Brownell's longevity here should be celebrated and appreciated, not used as some sort of criticism of him and his success.
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Re: I think we should give another coach the
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Jul 19, 2024, 1:39 PM
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same time as head BBall coach... so we can measure apples to apples.
Unfortunately, coaches like Barnes and OP got out as quickly as possible which was not our choice.
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You missed me saying that Tiger Walk should be named after Dabo.
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Jul 19, 2024, 12:46 PM
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It's going to be tough to rename our stadium or field, since those are already accounted for.
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Re: You missed me saying that Tiger Walk should be named after Dabo.
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Jul 19, 2024, 1:36 PM
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The whole Tiger Walk? How thoughtful.
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Why would we rename Memorial Stadium?***
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I would think he would need to hang an actual championship banner of
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Jul 19, 2024, 10:57 AM
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some sort to earn that distinction, and not just have been here the longest. Perhaps he can accomplish something monumental in these next few years to help build that case.
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Shirley he would have to win at least one conference championship to
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Jul 19, 2024, 11:00 AM
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even have it mentioned at a meeting. Or a NatChamp of course...
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I say let's get Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos to adopt our school, and name the court
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Jul 19, 2024, 11:25 AM
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after THEM! NIL problems would be a thing of the past.
"Jeff Bezos Falcon Super Heavy Court and Rocket Emporium"
Kind of has a ring to it, aye?
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BEAUTIFUL TOM WINKOPP COURT***
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Jul 19, 2024, 1:00 PM
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Re: BEAUTIFUL TOM WINKOPP COURT***
Jul 19, 2024, 6:22 PM
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I like the name Tesla Arena.
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Re: Will the Court at LittleJohn ever be named after Brownell?
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Jul 19, 2024, 11:31 AM
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Why would it? Brownell has a 58% win percentage at Clemson with zero championships.
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Brownell has a world championship.
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Jul 19, 2024, 12:47 PM
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HTH.
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Re: Brownell has a world championship.
Jul 19, 2024, 6:23 PM
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LOL, but not acc title.... need something meaningful.
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Teams dont typically name their courts after
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Jul 19, 2024, 11:39 AM
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the losingest coach in their program’s history.
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Nor after coaches that have never won their conference***
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Jul 19, 2024, 11:53 AM
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To my knowledge ole Rube Fike never won the intramural basketball championship
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Jul 19, 2024, 12:03 PM
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yet he’s got an entire field house named in his honor
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Here's the difference. Fike founded IPTAY.
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Jul 19, 2024, 12:16 PM
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Brownell can't founded the ACC championship game.
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He renamed midnight madness rock the john
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Jul 19, 2024, 1:01 PM
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that deserves to be recognized
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Re: Teams dont typically name their courts after
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the losingest coach in their program’s history.
Coach K has the most losses of any Duke coach. I believe Dean Smith has the same honor at UNC.
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Not being mean, but not a good comparison. Their resume' says enough.
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Jul 19, 2024, 1:51 PM
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Coack K is one of the greatest basketball coaches and Dean Smith won ACC, ACCT and National championships.
If Brownell gets there, I will not have any problem with it.
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Re: Not being mean, but not a good comparison. Their resume' says enough.
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Jul 19, 2024, 2:39 PM
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Coack K is one of the greatest basketball coaches and Dean Smith won ACC, ACCT and National championships.
If Brownell gets there, I will not have any problem with it.
In a 100+ years, how many of our coaches have won a championship in Basketball?
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If I say what I truly want to say, it will not be well thought of on TNet.
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Jul 19, 2024, 2:47 PM
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However, Brownell's resume' doesn't even compare to Smith's or Coach K's.
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Maybe that poster is atypical.***
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Re: Please tell me you're not trying to put CBB in the same class with
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Coach K and Dean Smith?
I was providing a list of coaches who had the most losses at their schools but were still great coaches as the LF and the weird cant seem to grasp that distinction.
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Someone remind me
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Jul 19, 2024, 12:07 PM
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Who was Littlejohn? No disrespect intended I just don’t know. I agree Brownell would need some championships.
Go Tigers
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Re: Someone remind me
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We've given him everything else to b a mediocre coach. Why not.
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Re: Will the Court at LittleJohn ever be named after Brownell?
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Jul 19, 2024, 12:42 PM
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I highly doubt it unless we get consistently MUCH better.
Naming anything after him would be like naming something after Tommy Bowden. An average coach who pulls out a strong finish in the year he is on the hot seat and gets a new contract.
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Re: Will the Court at LittleJohn ever be named after Brownell?
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Jul 19, 2024, 12:49 PM
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For some reason I think Judge is a firm believer in 5th place rings.
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Re: Will the Court at LittleJohn ever be named after Brownell?
Jul 19, 2024, 12:56 PM
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He's about the same as Frank Howard in on the field success, so there is that.
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Re: Will the Court at LittleJohn ever be named after Brownell?
Jul 19, 2024, 3:12 PM
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Actually a fair comparison.
and he did win in Chapel Hill...
If he stays another 20 years and retires I'd say we can name something after him.
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Re: Will the Court at LittleJohn ever be named after Brownell?
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Jul 19, 2024, 1:09 PM
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If he wins the conf a few times and makes it to the Final Four a few times.
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Re: Will the Court at LittleJohn ever be named after Brownell?
Jul 19, 2024, 5:02 PM
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If he wins the conf a few times and makes it to the Final Four a few times.
That would be things which have never been done at Clemson but possible as he has already opened the gates on distinction with his wins at UNC plus two elite eight appearances
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No.***
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It Will Be The Brownell Center and Keller Courts Named For Two Self Promoters
Jul 19, 2024, 4:30 PM
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and middling performers.
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Maybe a concession stand apparatus?
Jul 19, 2024, 5:00 PM
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Brad Brownell Nozzle has a certain ring of Authenticity.
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Soon
Jul 19, 2024, 6:17 PM
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Very soon. BroWnell Court will look really good above the Tiger Paw.
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