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Paw Warrior [4822]
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Seeing mixed perspectives on how the baseball team is doing
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Apr 20, 2025, 10:31 PM
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I totally understand those who are just appreciative of what the team has been doing.
But this is the same type of thing Dabo would say during the DJ era
Appreciation is a responsibility of the fans, I agree
But appreciation is irrelevant from the standard
Our standard now in baseball is to play good enough to win the national championship
Would y’all appreciate it so much if we repeated the same pattern, finished good enough to host but did not make it through to Omaha?
The team does not turn its back to the mistakes they make during games. Boneheaded plays that a team who wants to make it to Omaha can’t make.
Like McLaddie falling in right field multiple times
Yes, players make errors. But our defense has consistently shown that they can be perfect. No mistakes.
That is the expectation of them. They know it. They agree with that.
So While it’s important to appreciate where this program is right now
It’s also just as important that we know what the expectation is and what our standard is
We have not made Omaha in more than a decade
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National Champion [7509]
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When was Clemson top 5 with DJ at QB other than preseason?
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Apr 20, 2025, 10:55 PM
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These two situations aren’t close
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Standout [225]
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Re: Seeing mixed perspectives on how the baseball team is doing
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Apr 20, 2025, 11:08 PM
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Bakich says it best "Happy, not satisfied". We know it's been like 15 years since the last trip to Omaha. The one thing that you need to make it to Omaha is to win consistently. They're doing that. There's many ways to make that happen. This team just does it in a way that is less visually appealing. Still plenty of games left. I don't see many teams that play as consistently as they do so we can pick apart just about everyone. Go Tigers!
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Asst Coach [832]
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Re: Seeing mixed perspectives on how the baseball team is doing
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Apr 20, 2025, 11:14 PM
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We can be critical of some things like the defense at times, leaving runners on base, and the inability to nail down three consistent weekend starters (we always seem to have 2 good guys and the third is a wild card.)
I will listen to those fans, they make sound points and when you look at this season in a vacuum. We keep winning but we don’t necessarily “feel” like an elite team. I get that, but you can win national titles in baseball by not being an elite team, just a team that gets scorching hot at the right time… not so much in football or basketball.
However, I won’t listen to the people who try and say they we aren’t a great team. 35-7, on pace to have potentially the best regular season record since the early Leggett days… and doing it against formidable opponents. Our SOS is near the top of the country and we are still winning, so we aren’t beating up on the deaf and blind every week.
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Valley Legend [12139]
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Re: Seeing mixed perspectives on how the baseball team is doing
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Apr 21, 2025, 7:54 AM
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Our standard now in baseball is to play good enough to win the national championship
When has this been the standard as we have never won a NC in baseball? It may be the goal but is not the standard.
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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Re: Seeing mixed perspectives on how the baseball team is doing
Apr 21, 2025, 8:43 AM
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Our standard now in baseball is to play good enough to win the national championship
When has this been the standard as we have never won a NC in baseball? It may be the goal but is not the standard.
But we have historically been a top program for decades despite winning it all.
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Valley Legend [12139]
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Re: Seeing mixed perspectives on how the baseball team is doing
Apr 21, 2025, 9:18 AM
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Our standard now in baseball is to play good enough to win the national championship
When has this been the standard as we have never won a NC in baseball? It may be the goal but is not the standard. But we have historically been a top program for decades despite winning it all.
Without a doubt we have been a great program. IMO our standard is to compete at the highest levels but winning a NC in baseball requires lots of things to happen some of which are outside of our control.
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Paw Warrior [4822]
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Re: Seeing mixed perspectives on how the baseball team is doing
Apr 21, 2025, 11:54 AM
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No it doesn’t
Team who have won it have always had the best pitching
And that’s what we’ve lacked
And of course that is our standard because
1) Bakich says it
2) We’ve always been a top-10 baseball program at least top-10
3) We are good enough to do it
What’s wrong with you
Message was edited by: ROYBus10®
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Valley Legend [12139]
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Re: Seeing mixed perspectives on how the baseball team is doing
Apr 21, 2025, 12:27 PM
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Standard means level of attainment. Since we have never won a NC then that is not our standard. Words mean things and explaining the misuse of the word does not help. We have been a very good program except the last of the Jack years and the Monte experiment so very good is our standard plus striving to get to the top which is a goal.
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Paw Warrior [4822]
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Re: Seeing mixed perspectives on how the baseball team is doing
Apr 21, 2025, 1:13 PM
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Whatever you’re saying it doesn’t apply to what the team thinks, and what the believes it can do
Watch Bakich’s introduction to Clemson, and you’ll hear him say it even then
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Commissioner [1258]
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Re: Seeing mixed perspectives on how the baseball team is doing
Apr 21, 2025, 9:15 AM
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Depends on if you’re a pragmatist or idealist!
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All-Pro [700]
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Re: Seeing mixed perspectives on how the baseball team is doing
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Apr 21, 2025, 9:22 AM
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People view each baseball game under a microscope and don't look at the big picture.
We are 35-7 and a top 5 ranked team. If you told us that is where we would be in January, we would take it no questions asked.
Coach EB continues to max out everything from this team. We have some shortfalls from a talent perspective but continue to consistently win. No series losses at this point in the season is so impressive.
Go Tigers!
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Ultimate Tiger [33471]
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I agree . Tnet is irrelevant to clemson sports.***
Apr 21, 2025, 10:26 AM
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Rival Killer [2775]
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Re: Seeing mixed perspectives on how the baseball team is doing
Apr 21, 2025, 6:52 PM
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For all the talk about pitching, this is my greater concern. I put together an OPS comparison of the hitters from this year's team and last year's (barring players who didn't get many AB's):
2025 2024
1. Priest .983 | 1.093 Obertop
2. Purify .950 | 1.035 Wright
3. Listi .927 | .987 Hinderleider
4. Jarrell .919 | .978 Cannarella
5. Cannarella .903 | .950 Mathes
6. Paino .859 | .945 Taylor
7. McCladdie .859 | .914 Jarrell
8. Gaffney .815 | .899 Bissetta
9. Ciufo .768 | .768 Crighton
10. Bissetta .731 | .765 Ciufo
11. Crighton .709 | .752 Nawrocki
12. --- | .703 Purify
Granted, OPS isn't the only stat out there, but I think it's a pretty good hitting metric because it accounts for hits, types of hits, and walks. To this point in the season, the 2025 offense is nowhere near as prolific as the 2024 offense was, in terms of depth or at the top. Of course, the season's not over. Maybe they can go on a tear over the last month like the '23 team did. And I don't want to lose sight of the fact that it's been a historically great season thus far. Heck, they haven't even lost a series yet. So they've been finding ways to win, and there's something to be said for that. I just hope the lack of firepower doesn't come back to bite them.
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