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Valley Protector [1417]
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NIL and PORTAL ruining college football??
Dec 13, 2021, 10:44 AM
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I don't know how the rest of you feel but unless reeled in these things are going to ruin college football. No more "all in", jealousy among players over NIL.
I have a couple of suggestions to see what other opinions are:
TRANSFER PORTAL: Players who go to the portal before the end of the season must wait one year before playing. EX: If you enter the portal on NOV. 1st then you cannot play in a game at another school until the next Nov. 1st. If you wait until after the NC game to go to the portal you will get a full year at another school.
Players cannot transfer to another school within the conference.
Schools that lose a player to the transfer portal ( say 3 ) but only get one from the portal will be allowed two extra scholarships for one year to recover ( i.e. 87 )
NIL: To give every player a stake in this. if a player receives an NIL contract they only receive 50% of the funds. The other 50% is divide between the other players. this idea encourages other players to help the contract player be successful. It would be up to individual schools to decide eligible players. I.E. scholarship only, walk ons, etc. A player transferring from the portal during the year would not be eligible for a share as this could encourage a player to transfer to get more money.
A NOTE: I have read where some schools are misusing the NIL encouraging businesses supporters to make contract promises to recruits if they sign with their school. I fear where this is heading.
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Ultimate Tiger [33562]
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per the 6317 other posts on the same exact topics
Dec 13, 2021, 10:50 AM
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over the last 4 days....
i can statistically say the majority of tnet agrees
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Valley Legend [12303]
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Re: per the 6317 other posts on the same exact topics
Dec 13, 2021, 10:57 AM
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Gee Ville Tiger: You missed my post so add one more to your number who agrees.
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Clemson Conqueror [11410]
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Re: NIL and PORTAL ruining college football??
Dec 13, 2021, 11:05 AM
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PORTAL. That ship has sailed and sunk. Never going back the old ways.
NIL. With the Supreme Court agreeing that college players can make 'on the side' money just as non-athlete students at the same college can get a part-time job for 'on the side' money, it will be tough tough tough to stop the hell bound train of NIL.
Perhaps if the NCAA and Colleges can find some way to agree without violating Federal Trade Commission anti-trust (collusion / 'price fixing') laws, then there may be a chance to de-fang NIL.
NCAA and each individual college would ALL HAVE TO AGREE (without 'colluding') that athletic scholarships for all sports (including womens sports) would be continent upon an the college athlete candidate CONTRACTUALLY agreeing in advance to a complete amateur life (i.e., no 'side money' from part-time jobs). The value of the scholarship would have to be increased to provide some recompense to the student athlete for being contractually denied the chance to make money on the side.
The problem here is that each college could decide how much 'extra money' would be paid to each student athlete (not just the football players and the basketball players) as part of the scholarship.
So it's not that simple to just figure out a way to nix the NIL without the athletic scholarships becoming a de facto means of funneling big money to the athlete via the 'extra money' component of the 'new' scholarship agreement.
Hopefully the NCAA has good lawyers (instead of the millionth amateur ramblings of a TNet poster like me).
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Clemson Icon [24716]
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How many years should coaches have to sit out after
Dec 13, 2021, 11:07 AM
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they transfer?
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Redshirt [91]
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Re: NIL and PORTAL ruining college football??
Dec 13, 2021, 11:16 AM
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Add in the Expanded Playoff and you've got the Trifecta needed to completely KILL college football.
As for the proposed solutions:
Transfer Portal - I saw absolutely no reason to waive the mandatory one-year waiting period in the first place. But, if that ship has sailed, I like to see a limited Portal Period aligned with the NSD and not allow in season transfers.
I'd also propose a two-tiered scholarship offer to HS players.
Tier 1 - A full four-year Commitment by both parties. No Portal / No Cuts for any reason (except legal/institutional misconduct). This may not be attractive to the Elite 4 and 5 Star guys, but the 3 (and some of the 4s) might jump at this. The Player would have the assurance of a spot on the roster, and the Team would be better able to build depth and manage the roster.
Tier 2 - A one-year, Commitment renewable each year. This is more in line with the selfish, self-centered HS Player who doesn't know the meaning of commitment, or discipline or team. Highly attractive to today's Elite Players! But given out sparingly by the TEAM (making these even more coveted).
NIL - I don't have a suggestion for this other than tighter rules and governance by the NCAA, but we've seen you affective they are in all they do. I think we have a TITANIC size hole in the hull.
Expanded Playoffs - I'm adamantly against turning the "PLAY-OFF" designed to determine the year's best team (National Champ) into a "TOURNAMENT" designed to appease every constituent.
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Top TigerNet [29780]
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Re: NIL and PORTAL ruining college football??
Dec 13, 2021, 11:28 AM
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Good ideas.
I have a simpler one (which will never be implemented by the NCAA.
Every school has 85 ships.
1. When you sign a kid out of high school he counts as one of those 85 until a) he graduates or b) six years have passed since the time you signed him. If he enters the portal without graduating, then no matter where he goes, he still counts against your 85 for the full six years (unless he has already graduated from your school).
2. When you sign a kid from another school (from JUCO, transfer portal, whatever) he counts as one of those 85 until a) he graduates or b) two years have elapsed since his athletic eligibility has expired.
3. No exceptions, period. You have 85 ships, use them wisely.
Tie scholarships to graduation. Not to graduation rates, or academic progress. Watch how quickly recruiting changes.
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110%er [3896]
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Re: NIL and PORTAL ruining college football??
Dec 13, 2021, 11:23 AM
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You really think it is a good idea to take 50% of what a player earns through NIL and distribute it so other playes will help him be successful? Don't you think players will try to play well because they're on scholarship...they want to be pros?
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Re: NIL and PORTAL ruining college football??
Dec 13, 2021, 11:33 AM
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Welcome to America. The government already does this to the top wage earners (and it's only going to get worse).
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110%er [3896]
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Re: NIL and PORTAL ruining college football??
Dec 13, 2021, 12:06 PM
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Really? Your company takes half of what you earn and distributes it to your co-workers so you can be more successful?
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Orange Blooded [2376]
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The federal government saves them the effort.
Dec 13, 2021, 4:54 PM
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They have been redistributing the wealth for years.
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110%er [3896]
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Re: The federal government saves them the effort.
Dec 13, 2021, 5:01 PM
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Sure but that isn't what's being suggested. Taxes fund the government (whatever your opinion on that is.). This is different. This is to suggest taking 50% of what a kid earns and giving it to teammates, essentially bribing them to play well.
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Asst Coach [844]
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Re: NIL and PORTAL ruining college football??
Dec 13, 2021, 1:09 PM
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The big question in all this pay for play is what long term effect it will have on the college football tv viewing audience. I think many will sour on the new semi-pro arrangement..
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Re: NIL and PORTAL ruining college football??
Dec 13, 2021, 5:14 PM
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Its over. Schools w the most $ from ulumi to pay players will get the cream of the crop. And when one slips through the cracks and shows out at a lower school, guess what??, he’s going to enter the transfer portal, to get $. And states with no state taxes will use that as selling tool. I.e- TN, TX, FL.
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National Champion [7134]
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Re: NIL and PORTAL ruining college football??
Dec 13, 2021, 7:48 PM
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Other people get half the money someone else earns? Sounds like socialism to me.
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Letterman [261]
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Re: NIL and PORTAL ruining college football??
Dec 13, 2021, 8:02 PM
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Welcome to the minor league NFL!!!! Education never mattered.
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