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All-American [574]
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Louisville = stole our signs
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Nov 14, 2024, 8:08 PM
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Just connected with a former player/insider into the program.
LVL was stealing signs - had our number dialed in.
Catching up.
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Head Coach [928]
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Re: Louisville = stole our signs
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Nov 14, 2024, 8:10 PM
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I actually thought this watching the game.
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All-American [574]
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Re: Louisville = stole our signs
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Nov 14, 2024, 8:12 PM
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You thought right. Not naming my source but i feel better knowing what happened.
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Game Day Hero [4390]
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Re: Louisville = stole our signs
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Nov 14, 2024, 8:12 PM
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You know they have wireless helmet comms now right?
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All-American [574]
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Re: Louisville = stole our signs
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Nov 14, 2024, 8:13 PM
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yeah, on the offensive side... this is Defense. You know we still call them in now right?
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Rival Killer [2935]
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The defense has helmet comms, too.
Nov 14, 2024, 8:58 PM
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Barrett Carter usually wears the green dot helmet for our defense.
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Rival Killer [2835]
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Re: Louisville = stole our signs
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Nov 14, 2024, 8:12 PM
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Thats our fault then and I don't know why Wes signals in the defensive plays when he could be talking over the headset to Carter or whomever he deems to be the QB of the defense.
Sign stealing went out the door when the helmet comms came.
Even so, even before the comms in the helmet, if you didn't have redundancy and variation in your signals, thats your fault short of the Michigan guy (that documentary on that guy was awesome.. Navy academy grad who was a savant on sign stealing and tendencies when Navy was so good).
Bowden's / Rich Rod's first year in 1999 we ran an Indy set (fast tempo) that had 10 plays (Indy 1-10).... odd numbers were pass, even were runs. Never huddled once that whole year. Opposing defensive coordinators at the end of the game said they knew what we were running but couldn't signal in the defensive call fast enough. Not to mention we would sub last minute from a 5 wide to a jumbo package, especially on short yardage on our hash. They came out with the Bowden rule in 2000 on illegal substitutions.
https://football.refs.org/rules/NCAA2000pr.html Message was edited by: bobbyb99®
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Clemson Icon [27822]
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Re: Louisville = stole our signs
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Nov 14, 2024, 9:26 PM
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Thats our fault then and I don't know why Wes signals in the defensive plays when he could be talking over the headset to Carter or whomever he deems to be the QB of the defense. Sign stealing went out the door when the helmet comms came. Even so, even before the comms in the helmet, if you didn't have redundancy and variation in your signals, thats your fault short of the Michigan guy (that documentary on that guy was awesome.. Navy academy grad who was a savant on sign stealing and tendencies when Navy was so good). Bowden's / Rich Rod's first year in 1999 we ran an Indy set (fast tempo) that had 10 plays (Indy 1-10).... odd numbers were pass, even were runs. Never huddled once that whole year. Opposing defensive coordinators at the end of the game said they knew what we were running but couldn't signal in the defensive call fast enough. Not to mention we would sub last minute from a 5 wide to a jumbo package, especially on short yardage on our hash. They came out with the Bowden rule in 2000 on illegal substitutions. https://football.refs.org/rules/NCAA2000pr.htmlMessage was edited by: bobbyb99® Message was edited by: bobbyb99®
Some teams still use 'hand signals'...
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Clemson Icon [26769]
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The question is how did they do it?
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Nov 14, 2024, 8:13 PM
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Did they do it my legal means? Did they use Connor Stalions methods? Did they hack into the helmet communications? Or did they just decode the signs signaled in from the sideline?
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Campus Hero [13803]
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Good for them as long as they weren't cheating to do it***
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Nov 14, 2024, 8:13 PM
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TigerNet Elite [73278]
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Re: Louisville = stole our signs
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Nov 14, 2024, 8:14 PM
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I cant say they didnt but the drive and effort on our part was not good anyway
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All-American [574]
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Re: Louisville = stole our signs
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Nov 14, 2024, 8:16 PM
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Yeah, our jimmy and joes should have been able to overcome.
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Campus Hero [13803]
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Also have a follow-up question
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Nov 14, 2024, 8:14 PM
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Was VT stealing our signs in the 1st half?
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All-American [574]
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Re: Also have a follow-up question
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Nov 14, 2024, 8:15 PM
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No clue on that piece. Didn't ask.
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National Champion [7237]
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Re: Louisville = stole our signs
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Nov 14, 2024, 8:20 PM
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It sure seemed to be the case.
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CU Medallion [19297]
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You think stolen signs is the reason Clemson could not block
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Nov 14, 2024, 9:01 PM
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or tackle or kick field goals?
Well, that sure makes me feel better.
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Clemson Icon [27179]
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well as long as they didn't cheat to do so
Nov 14, 2024, 9:02 PM
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Isn't it just a case of them maneuvering us and still getting the better of us overall?
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Commissioner [1296]
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Re: Louisville = stole our signs
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Nov 14, 2024, 9:05 PM
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Even if they were stealing signs, we just didn't show up. It wasn't our night. I got invited to sit in the west zone , and when UL was driving towards us, the hole in the middle was so wide that I looked at my wife and said I could push our 95 year moms in their wheel chairs through it for at least ten yards. It was a bad night, it happens. Our fans were electric, that's our job! Go Tigers
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Varsity [139]
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Re: Louisville = stole our signs
Nov 14, 2024, 9:17 PM
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Not illegal, people steal signals all the time. Still isn't the reason Clemson lost.
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Orange Phenom [14414]
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former player from Clemson
Nov 14, 2024, 9:34 PM
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or Louisville?
What time frame did they play?
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Athletic Dir [1108]
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Re: Louisville = stole our signs
Nov 14, 2024, 11:14 PM
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Why bother when our DL was parting like the Red Sea?
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Heisman Winner [78305]
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Ok.
Nov 14, 2024, 11:19 PM
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Shame on us.
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