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Can someone explain why mods allow
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Can someone explain why mods allow

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Sep 4, 2024, 2:36 PM
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other teams' insane fans to come on TNET and mock and trash Clemson, our program, our great university and Dabo, over and over and over??

I'm all for friendly banter - even respectful critique. There was plenty to critique after Saturday.

That's just sports.

But coming on here, trolling, and being disrespectful with every post seems beyond.

I come on TNET to discuss my team with fans of my team. And have been for 25 years.

Am I missing something?

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and then ban DSP. SMH***

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Sep 4, 2024, 2:43 PM
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I'm sure anyone else would have gotten banned for what he did, let's not act

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Sep 4, 2024, 3:21 PM
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like it was undeserved

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Re: I'm sure anyone else would have gotten banned for what he did, let's not act

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Sep 4, 2024, 3:26 PM
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The more clowns, the more replies, the more replies, the more visits, the more visits, the more views, the more views, the higher the rates for advertising, the higher the rates for advertising the more money it makes for the owner of this domain.

So, $ is why.

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Re: I'm sure anyone else would have gotten banned for what he did, let's not act


Sep 4, 2024, 3:28 PM
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Hard to argue with that.

Still kinda sucks.

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DSP was a simply an unmitigated, narcissistic #### . . .


Sep 5, 2024, 9:56 AM
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I'm not sure if he got banned for a particular incident or just finally reaching a crticial mass of A-holery, but of course it was deserved.

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DSP was simply an unmitigated, narcissistic (a)rse . . .


Sep 5, 2024, 9:57 AM [ in reply to Re: I'm sure anyone else would have gotten banned for what he did, let's not act ]
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I'm not sure if he got banned for a particular incident or just finally reaching a crticial mass of A-holery, but of course it was deserved.

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It was a particular incident, and it involved highly inappropriate comments


Sep 5, 2024, 11:48 AM
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towards a poster's minor daughter.

HTH.

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Because freedom of speech...

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Sep 4, 2024, 3:30 PM
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and most of us aren't snowflakes.

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Re: Because freedom of speech...

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Sep 4, 2024, 3:33 PM
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Heck, unsure what he did .. as we used to say in the Navy - “Here today, Guam tomorrow” ?

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Clearly you failed Civics class

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Sep 4, 2024, 3:35 PM [ in reply to Because freedom of speech... ]
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Freedom of speech is irrelevant in this case, but thanks for playing.

And your "snowflake" comment is pretty telling as well.

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Re: Clearly you failed Civics class

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Sep 4, 2024, 3:48 PM
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Read more of his post and it becomes even more telling! Smartest guy on TNet. Ask him he will let you know.

I like most people but it’s obvious if you do not agree with certain things then JK’s followers spew “cult.” On another note some feel the need to whine like anyone on here can change anything and then you have those that just pretend to be fans. Picked up a great deal of those after 2015.

Just read enjoy and ignore the BS. It’s hard though most people’s thoughts on here are set on repeat, so some are hard to avoid.

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MEG


JK follower? That's ludicrous.


Sep 5, 2024, 10:14 AM
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That is a false narrative.

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Wrong. TNET allows freedom of speech.

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Sep 4, 2024, 6:36 PM [ in reply to Clearly you failed Civics class ]
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No Civics class involved.

You seem to be shivering.

Tilt. Thanks for playing.

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You're the one who is unbalanced

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Sep 4, 2024, 7:26 PM
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Go back to your TV dinner.

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Yes, you're definitely shivering

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Sep 5, 2024, 9:13 AM
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That's what snowflakes do.

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If you cared about reality

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Sep 5, 2024, 11:01 AM
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You would understand that I'm as far from a "snowflake" as one can imagine.

But you would need to be capable of sentience.

You'll need to look it up, I'm certain.

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Your entire post was classic snowflake

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Sep 5, 2024, 12:05 PM
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Weak sauce. Strong people of the non snowflake variety don't shrink from differences of opinion.

Your responses here confirm it.

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You're clearly brilliant


Sep 5, 2024, 12:07 PM
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I humbly yield to your obvious omniscience.

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TNET does not allow freedom of speech...

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Sep 5, 2024, 10:14 AM [ in reply to Wrong. TNET allows freedom of speech. ]
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You agree, through your use of the TigerNet forums or chat, that you will not use the forum or chat to post any material which is knowingly:

False and/or defamatory
Inaccurate
Abusive
Vulgar
Hateful
Harassing
Obscene
Profane
Sexually oriented
Threatening
Invasive of a person's privacy
Thread Hijacking (knowingly redirecting the subject of a thread)
Post padding (posting for the sole purpose of increasing post count)
Trolling (posting to purposefully antagonize other posters)
An attempt to get around the profanity filter
Removal of moderator/staff edits from post
Otherwise in violation of any law.

https://www.tigernet.com/rules.do

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Aspiring member of the TigerNet Sewer Dwellers


Facts are funny things, aren't they?

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Sep 5, 2024, 11:25 AM
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Thanks for posting.

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But allowing fans of other teams to post

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Sep 5, 2024, 12:07 PM [ in reply to TNET does not allow freedom of speech... ]
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Is now magically NOT freedom of speech?

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Freedom of speech applies to individuals critiquing the government

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Sep 4, 2024, 4:33 PM [ in reply to Because freedom of speech... ]
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Not idiots spreading trash on a sports forum.

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There's something in these hills.


You can use freedom of speech in a non-legal capacity to apply here.

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Sep 4, 2024, 4:57 PM
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Freedom to do things isn't always a constitutional or legal consideration. Freedom is just a lack of impediments. Freedom to move, freedom to smoke, freedom to do anything.

As a virtue, I like it when freedom of speech is honored by private companies, even though they are legally allowed to limit it any way they want.

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On X, I agree -- say what you want

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Sep 4, 2024, 5:07 PM
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But TNET should be for Tigers, not trolls.

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Some miss the previous regime's...

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Sep 4, 2024, 6:25 PM
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selective enforcement of speech when it was Twitter because "it's just not fair".

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False Dilemma, much?***

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Sep 5, 2024, 10:07 AM [ in reply to On X, I agree -- say what you want ]
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Wrong.

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Sep 4, 2024, 6:37 PM [ in reply to Freedom of speech applies to individuals critiquing the government ]
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It applies to what each forum allows, and TNET allows differing points of view.

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COOT!!!!!***

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Sep 4, 2024, 3:37 PM
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Clicks = advertising dollars. That's all they really care about.***

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Sep 4, 2024, 4:34 PM
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There's something in these hills.


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Sep 4, 2024, 4:43 PM
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...

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Asking for more censorship is usually not good.

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Sep 4, 2024, 4:52 PM
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The mods do ban extreme cases already. Not sure we really need to be further protected from bad or negative opinions. We can survive them.

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Thank you for completely missing my point


Sep 4, 2024, 5:05 PM
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And it's not censorship. It's simply asking that if you're a coot or a dog, that you stay in your coop or your kennel.

Don't come to the jungle.

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Re: Thank you for completely missing my point

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Sep 4, 2024, 5:09 PM
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What if you just scrolled past opinions or posters you disagree with?

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What if you went back to where you belong?

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Sep 4, 2024, 5:18 PM
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It's nearly impossible to ignore you since you post on almost everything. Especially if you can get a jab in.

Tired of you and your ilk.

But you won't go away, of course. You enjoy being a straight-up troll.

So I've ignored you for weeks now, as much as I'm able. Now that your team has won, I was hoping you'd go away.

Don't understand trolling another team's fan base. It's just creepy.

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Re: What if you went back to where you belong?


Sep 4, 2024, 7:02 PM
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just click the flag for troll.... really easy to do.

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Re: What if you went back to where you belong?

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Sep 4, 2024, 7:29 PM [ in reply to What if you went back to where you belong? ]
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If I get "jabs in" on "almost everything," why don't you share some of those. Exactly what jabs have I taken? You see some of the stuff that gets hurled at me? You worried about those jabs? You reading the stuff about your head coach here? I'm not posting that stuff. You're blinded by "Dawg" profile. Anything I post which isn't in lock step with what you want to hear you label trolling. There is a poster from another fanbase who is very careful not to post anything which anyone here might possibly object to. I post my opinion.

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Right.

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Sep 4, 2024, 9:04 PM
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Enjoy the wonderful land of Denial.

Or better yet, go away!

But like herpes, you won't ever leave.

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Re: Right.

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Sep 5, 2024, 7:59 AM
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So you have no examples of "jabs"? Like I said, you're blinded by the "Dawg" profile.

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No, I'm not.

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Sep 5, 2024, 8:52 AM
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I think you are though.

If you deny taking shots at Clemson and trolling, then you are utterly blind to your own behavior and incapable of being honest, with yourself.

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This is why censorship is problematic. You probably want him banned but

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Sep 5, 2024, 9:00 AM
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you didn't present evidence to justify it when given an opportunity. This is a common thing that pro-censorship people do. And censorship gets abused EASILY.

Obviously, the people who own this site get to decide, but I hope they keep their current level of content moderation and not increase it.

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For the love, I'm NOT for censorship -- take off your angry glasses


Sep 5, 2024, 10:59 AM
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I simply don't want to have to deal with trolls on a CLEMSON site. It's that simple.

There are dozens of examples. But I have a job and don't have the time to find them, nor do I wish to.

You two should probably get a room together.

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Re: No, I'm not.

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Sep 5, 2024, 11:49 AM [ in reply to No, I'm not. ]
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I'll ask you again, what are the jabs I've taken at Clemson? I suspect you haven't posted any because you can't find any. Anything you don't like you consider trolling.

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You're not interested in understanding


Sep 5, 2024, 12:01 PM
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But by all means, continue the trolling.

I'm certain you will.

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Re: You're not interested in understanding


Sep 5, 2024, 12:07 PM
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No trolling. I just called you out
on your BS. You can't back up your BS now you want to change the narrative. You're not very good at this and everyone sees it.

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If you say so


Sep 5, 2024, 12:10 PM
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You lack the capacity to understand.

You just want to fight. Not interested.

But thanks for proving my original point.

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Re: If you say so

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Sep 5, 2024, 12:47 PM
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You're failing more spectacularly with every response.

I'll close how I started: just scroll past opinions or posters you don't like. You'll be a happier person and there is less risk you'll embarrass yourself as you have with our exchange.

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Thank you for allow me to bask in your glow


Sep 5, 2024, 12:54 PM
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And for absolutely proving my original point.

You are right about one thing (but only one): I should've put you on ignore a long time ago.

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That is a classic example of censorship

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Sep 4, 2024, 6:40 PM [ in reply to Thank you for completely missing my point ]
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No matter how much you try to deny that it is.

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That is censorship. If you want to ban some type of perspective, you are

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Sep 5, 2024, 8:55 AM [ in reply to Thank you for completely missing my point ]
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censoring it.

The definition of the word is..."to suppress or delete as objectionable."

You find other teams' fans negative perception of Clemson objectionable. You want it suppressed and deleted. Pretty clear case.

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Clemson fan site it's reasonable to only want to interact with Clemson fans

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Sep 4, 2024, 5:09 PM [ in reply to Asking for more censorship is usually not good. ]
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There are plenty of college football message boards where other fans can commingle.

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You can choose to only interact with Clemson fans here.

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Sep 5, 2024, 9:10 AM
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I think by asking for more censorship you guys just don't like having to see anything deriding Clemson in the message boards unless it's from Clemson fans. And the mods already remove opposing fans (or Clemson fans) if it is overwhelmingly obvious that their primary intent is just to harass people.

They tell us frequently that we have a report abuse button that almost nobody acknowledges.

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OK bro


Sep 5, 2024, 11:04 AM
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You don't understand what I'm saying, because you don't want to.

You appear to see things that don't exist, and ignore things that do.

Which is your right. Enjoy your rights.

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I gave you the definition of the word and specifically proved that you fit it.


Sep 5, 2024, 11:12 AM
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I can't force you to be logical. That's your job.

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No, you see what you want, according to your extremely narrow view


Sep 5, 2024, 11:16 AM
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And that allows you to dismiss the actual words I'm using.

Or, maybe this will help: "OK Mr. CSO, you're always right."

There, do you feel better?

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Sigh... Ok, let's see how this goes....


Sep 5, 2024, 11:26 AM
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Step 1: Do you deny the definition of the word "censor" as described by Mirriam Webster? (source link below)

"to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable


also : to suppress or delete as objectionable"


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censor

Assuming you agree with the dictionary, we are good to move forward.

Step 2: Do you agree with yourself that you find posts from opposing fans that you consider insulting to Clemson objectionable? Or do you disagree with yourself?

Assuming you agree with the dictionary and yourself.... we are good to finish up.

Step 3: Do you agree with yourself that you want the above-describe objectionable content "suppressed or deleted?"

If so, then you agree that you want censorship. It is literally logically impossible to deny this. Please be rational.

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"You're always right, Mr. CSO"


Sep 5, 2024, 11:29 AM
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Am I doing it right yet?

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Well... you were the one who asserted it wasn't censorship.


Sep 5, 2024, 11:32 AM
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I didn't invent the word, I was just using it.

I'm wrong plenty. Just not this time. :)

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Actually, you're wrong because you completely missed my point,


Sep 5, 2024, 11:37 AM
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didn't actually listen, created a strawman, proceeded to beat it like a dead horse, and were smug in your lack of ability to comprehend.

It's a hopeless combination.

You don't wish to comprehend. Perhaps you're not capable. You only wish to see a bogeyman where it doesn't exist.

Enjoy yourself. "You're always right, Mr. CSO."

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Oh. So you didn't want the mods to prohibit or delete anything? My bad,


Sep 5, 2024, 11:45 AM
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it seemed that is what you were implying. It appeared from your post that you were upset that the mods allowed a certain type of content you didn't like to remain on the board. I guess I was totally wrong about that and you don't want the mods to stop or remove anything. My mistake.

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Warmer, but still pretty cold


Sep 5, 2024, 11:53 AM
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Since you insist on reading into, rather than understanding out of.

Don't try, though: empathy and understanding are required.

We can stop now. It's well-established that you is so very smart.

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"You're always right, Mr. CSO"


Sep 5, 2024, 11:29 AM [ in reply to Sigh... Ok, let's see how this goes.... ]
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Yet?

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"You're always right, Mr. CSO"


Sep 5, 2024, 11:29 AM [ in reply to Sigh... Ok, let's see how this goes.... ]
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How 'bout now?

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Wrong again.

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Sep 5, 2024, 12:09 PM [ in reply to OK bro ]
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I disagree based on facts that you happen to dislike.

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Exactly! Well said******

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Re: Can someone explain why mods allow

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Sep 4, 2024, 4:58 PM
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We don't allow trolling or personal attacks. If you see either of those, just hit the RA flag and we will deal with it. I can assure you we have enough hits where losing 1 person doesn't make any difference, so that is not a factor. To date we have banned 4,033 accounts.

Feel free to PM me if there is someone specific you want me to look into, but generally RA gets the job done.

Thanks!

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Thanks for the response

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Sep 4, 2024, 5:09 PM
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Generally love it here, obviously. Been on for over 25 years.

I appreciate all y'll do and hope you make a LOT of money from this site.

Just seems like too many jock-sniffing dogs and dirtpeckers these days.

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Re: Thanks for the response

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Sep 4, 2024, 5:17 PM
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No problem. Granted after losses we kind of let things slide a bit more for a day or so, but we really do try to keep them off. Not many people actually use the RA button, but we appreciate the help!

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Re: Thanks for the response

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Sep 4, 2024, 6:37 PM
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I have a question B-Meist® .

Why was deadsolidperfect® double banned six days ago when he already had the ded?

https://www.tigernet.com/view/profile.do?id=57671

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


Re: Thanks for the response

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Sep 4, 2024, 6:50 PM
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Sometimes you have to run over roadkill a couple extra times to make sure it’s really dead.

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You know how many possums it takes it to pave a road?

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Sep 4, 2024, 8:53 PM
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Three if you spread them lightly.

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


I was actually trying to help him out as it wasn't letting him log in***

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Re: I was actually trying to help him out as it wasn't letting him log in***


Sep 4, 2024, 7:02 PM
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He is a good poster, give him some Jamaica time once a year, but not the Death Penalty. 🥸

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Class of '87


Now wut?

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Sep 4, 2024, 8:53 PM [ in reply to I was actually trying to help him out as it wasn't letting him log in*** ]
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B-Meist®

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


nudes***

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This guy has trolled nonstop since he joined***

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Sep 4, 2024, 5:10 PM [ in reply to Re: Can someone explain why mods allow ]
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AllInYourEndzone

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Re: This guy has trolled nonstop since he joined***


Sep 5, 2024, 1:16 PM
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Absolutely.

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some of those were not even Stanley***


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The mods let us longtime TNetters take care of the

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Sep 4, 2024, 4:59 PM
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trash by RA'ing them out.

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"When I was young, I was sure of many things; now there are only two things of which I am sure: one is, that I am a miserable sinner; and the other, that Christ is an all-sufficient Saviour. He is well-taught who learns these two lessons." -John Newton


Re: Can someone explain why mods allow


Sep 5, 2024, 9:16 AM
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It’s the majority spirit of the world we live in now. The news narrative can change on a dime and most will believe it.

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We keep getting better & better everyday, in every way!
“The only disability is a bad Attitude” Dabo Swinney!!
Let’s Go Tigers!


Re: Can someone explain why mods allow


Sep 5, 2024, 10:15 AM
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Bc they are not Dabo fans. Lucky, if they believe in USA and God.

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You know you can ignore people, right?***

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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


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