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framework and the full context of a video before I comment on it. With politicians I don't have to do much of a dive because their ideology is well known - Bishop Budde - not so much. I know that may be a strange concept to some who want to grab a soundbite and run with it but when I have the time that is typically what I do.

I listened to the Bishop's sermon and other comments of hers on YouTube. In this particular sermon Bishop Buddde was making an emotional appeal to the Christian value of "mercy" with a strong inference that to enforce our immigration laws is somehow "unmerciful". I find the Bishop's argument in this instance to be totally absurd. It is not unmerciful to have people obey our laws and their are numerous passages of scripture to affirm that God/Christ want us to obey the laws of Government so long as doing so is not an affront to God or his commands.

While "mercy" is very much a central theme of scripture and the Christian experience - so is "consequences" and that is where I think Bishop Budde is neglectful in her sermon. I can provide a number of scriptural references on "mercy" as well as scriptures stating there are justified "consequences" for our actions but one must realize having the one does not exempt from the other. For example - the overall tenant of Christianity is that death is the consequence for our sin BUT we are shown mercy by God with the gift of eternal life through our acceptance of Christ as our saviour. Having illegal immigrants face the consequences of their action is in no way "unmerciful" and is fully within the Christian tenant of "consequences". Returning illegal immigrants to their homeland where they can then apply through the established process for legal immigration - like many others have done - is simply giving "to Caesar the things that are Caesars".

I'm going to avoid the Christian homosexual and transgender argument because some Christian denominations have deemed such things as acceptable to God while many others have not. Quite frankly this whole issue is splitting denominations (the recent United Methodist Church split for one). Regardless of this - US society at large, regardless of their religious beliefs, is tolerant of homosexuality so long as it is between consenting adults and those of that lifestyle may do so without persecution.

I know of no Government prosecution, nor Trump proposals for such, for people exercising their homosexual lifestyle with other consenting adults. I find Bishop Budde's appeal "to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared now" as it relates to homosexuality to be ridiculous because no one in Government (or Trump policy) is promoting policies to persecute or discriminate against them from openly living their lifestyle as they have for the past 4 years under Biden.

Instead Bishop Budde is lumping homosexuality and transgenderism into the same group. Transgenderism is decidedly NOT the same as homosexuality with many homosexuals not wanting to be associated with the transgender "movement".

Again, I find Bishop Budde's call for "mercy" to this group to be absurd. It appears that Bishop Budde believes Trump's (and a majority of the population) belief that biology determines our gender as one of two genders - male or female - as being "unmerciful". What I find "unmerciful" is that many of these transgender children Bishop Budde is worried about are being given puberty blockers, chemical castrations, having their healthy bodies mutilated by surgeons, and fed hormones that produces permanent, lifelong bodily changes as a "treatment" for a mental disorder. From my Christian perspective - the merciful thing would be to pray for those who struggle to accept their biology and get them the mental and spiritual treatment that seeks to address the mental causes for this difficulty in accepting their biological sex with which God gave them.

So - no I'm not "uncomfortable" with my Christian beliefs in disagreeing with Bishop Budde one bit...

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I think the bible is very clear on immigration

Jan 23, 2025, 6:09 PM [ in reply to Not going to get in an argument with you on Christian values and messages but ]

‘I am a stranger and an alien residing among you; give me property among you for a burying place, so that I may bury my dead out of my sight.’
Genesis 23:4

You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Deuteronomy 10:19

The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Leviticus 19:34

‘Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.’ Then all the people shall say, ‘Amen!’
Deuteronomy 27:19

When they were few in number, of little account, and strangers in the land, wandering from nation to nation, from one kingdom to another people, he allowed no one to oppress them; he rebuked kings on their account, saying, ‘Do not touch my anointed ones; do my prophets no harm.’
1 Chronicles 16:19-22

I was eyes to the blind, and feet to the lame. I was a father to the needy, and I championed the cause of the stranger. I broke the fangs of the unrighteous, and made them drop their prey from their teeth.
Job 29:15-17

The Lord watches over the strangers; he upholds the orphan and the widow, but the way of the wicked he brings to ruin.
Psalm146:9

For if you truly amend your ways and your doings, if you truly act justly one with another, if you do not oppress the alien, the orphan, and the widow, or shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not go after other gods to your own hurt, then I will dwell with you in this place, in the land that I gave of old to your ancestors forever and ever.
Jeremiah 7:5-7

You shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the aliens who reside among you and have begotten children among you. They shall be to you as citizens of Israel; with you they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel.
Ezekiel 47:22

Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.
Zechariah 7:9-10

You have heard that it was said, ‘you shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy’. But I say to you, love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.
Matthew 5:43-44

I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me.
Matthew 25:35

Truly I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of my brethren you did it to me.
Matthew 25:40

You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself.
Luke 10:27

Then Peter began to speak to them: “I truly understand that God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.
Acts 10:34

Contribute to the needs of the saints; extend hospitality to strangers.
Romans 12:13

Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law.
Romans 13:8

Love does no wrong to a neighbor, therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Romans 13:10

In that renewal there is no longer Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave and free; but Christ is all and in all.
Colossians 3:11

Let mutual love continue. Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels without knowing it. Remember those who are in prison, as though you were in prison with them; those who are being tortured, as though you yourselves were being tortured.
Hebrews 13:1-3

Beloved, you do faithfully whatever you do for the friends, even though they are strangers to you; they have testified to your love before the church. You do well to send them on in a manner worthy of God; for they began their journey for the sake of Christ, accepting no support from non-believers. Therefore we ought to support such people, so that they may become co-workers with the truth.
3 John 1:5

And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “See the home of God is among mortals. He will dwell with them as their God; they will be his peoples, and God himself will be with them.”
Revelation 21:3

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Felons couldn't be arrested in a church before?***

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Must be the 'conservative' in him... Right?***

Re: Felons couldn't be arrested in a church before?***

cry harder, #####***

Speaking of church, did you see how uncomfortable that Bishop lady made Trump?

No surprise with Trump, but it's a bad look for Mike Collins and the rest of the

It should anger all real Christians***

are there any of those left?***

Sad that it's kind of hard to argue against you***

Re: It should anger all real Christians***

Where'd you get that idea from?***

Re: It should anger all real Christians***

That Bishop was speaking in half-truths at times... Is that Christian?***

Re: That Bishop was speaking in half-truths at times... Is that Christian?***

And for then to say he didnt like the service

Re: And for then to say he didnt like the service

Haha that Four Seasons clown show was the

Re: Speaking of church, did you see how uncomfortable that Bishop lady made Trump?

I do

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Yes, hence my answer to your question***

are you bot?***

Yes, I do. But I don't believe it's a prerequisite for this discussion***

Re: Speaking of church, did you see how uncomfortable that Bishop lady made Trump?

Re: Speaking of church, did you see how uncomfortable that Bishop lady made Trump?

Re: Speaking of church, did you see how uncomfortable that Bishop lady made Trump?

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Not going to get in an argument with you on Christian values and messages but

Re: Not going to get in an argument with you on Christian values and messages but

She simply made a plea for mercy and empathy for Immigrant/LGBTQ minorities

Re: She simply made a plea for mercy and empathy for Immigrant/LGBTQ minorities

Please point them out***

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He tried, but he doesn't appear to know what the word, "lie" means

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Transgender people existing isn't a lie

Re: Transgender people existing isn't a lie

Ok, we disagree

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100 years ago you'd have been saying the same thing

Re: She simply made a plea for mercy and empathy for Immigrant/LGBTQ minorities

I've gone beyond what Bishop Budde said yesterday and looked at some of her

...why did you feel the need to go beyond what she said yesterday?

Not at all - I typically do my due diligence to understand peoples ideological

She never once mentions immigration laws. That's your intrepretation

I think the bible is very clear on immigration

Re: Speaking of church, did you see how uncomfortable that Bishop lady made Trump?

Re: your church is no longer a Sanctuary thanks to our Orange God

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The rebuke of both Cheneys has

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