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Not gonna lie if were Dabo
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I’d call a press conference, thank the university then announce I’m gone and tell everyone good luck. If the man wins it’s because he’s in the ACC, if he loses it’s because they suck. He’s accomplished enough in his profession that the way the sport is going it just isn’t worth it anymore and definitely isn’t worth getting portrayed by the fans as stupid 24/7.
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He's always been pretty clear about reasons he'd leave.
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Re: He's always been pretty clear about reasons he'd leave.
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We are at that point now, really hope he starts to see it. I’m petty though I’d walk on the podium and tell them I’m handing over full control to Tigernet good luck
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I'd don't know, I wouldn't take the temperature...
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of the fan base, BOT, Admin or AD from Tigernet.
They all signed off on what Dabo is and has built; any angst needs to come from somewhere other than the "1%ers" - he knows "they're" always looking for a reason to rail.
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Re: I'd don't know, I wouldn't take the temperature...
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True I wasn’t on Tnet during the run so the only thing I know about Tnet is crying non stop about every little thing Dabo does and acting like he’s sitting on a throne laughing while the program falls apart. I swear some on here act like Dabo is going after them personally it’s wild ??
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Well, fug it, then welcome if I failed to do so earlier.***
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Re: I'd don't know, I wouldn't take the temperature...
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Jan 10, 2023, 11:27 AM
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I don’t think anyone believes Dabo is laughing while the program falls apart. The reality is far worse than that. He genuinely believes he is doing things right and seems oblivious that the program is falling apart. That’s the scary part!
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Legend [19697]
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You think the 8, possibly 9 players who returned
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for an extra year think the program is falling apart?
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Do you think the 9 players who entered the portal feel encouraged
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Jan 10, 2023, 6:06 PM
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about the direction of the program?
How about the handful who are leaving school early to enter the draft?
I’m sure you’ll say that they all love Clemson and just want more playing time, or to pursue their NFL dream. But what if that’s not the entire truth?
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Re: Do you think the 9 players who entered the portal feel encouraged
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What if, what if???? What if it is the truth?
You can make up carp all day. None of us know the entire truth so you just suggest anything that furthers your point. What a joke.
And yes, most of those leaving in the portal probably believe the program is strong enough they aren’t going to get the playing time they want.
We have always had some guys that go to the NFL as soon as they can. The fact that we have more guys that could be high picks return than other programs speaks volumes about our program. You just can’t seem to admit that because you are continually trying to cherry pick negative points to make.
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There was complaining during the DW4 and TLaw years too
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And it's always been the same flavors of complaints.
Conditioning (FIRE BATSON!)
Line play
Defense play, particularly the secondary (even under Brent Venebles)
Predictable play calling on offense
Those teams that won the Natty's weren't perfect. 2018 was ###### good and chock full of talent. But some people won't be happy unless they find something to complain about.
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is Dabo***
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Re: I'd don't know, I wouldn't take the temperature...
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The turnout by Clemson fans in the orange bowl might be a good sign of how the fan base is feeling about the direction of the program. A huge CU turnout in Miami would indicate Tigernet is not indicative of the mood. A low turnout would indicate things aren’t good.
We all know what the turnout was.
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You think Dabo is unhappy? I don't see any signs of that at
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Jan 10, 2023, 10:59 AM
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all. Maybe I'm wrong, but why would Dabo quit right now? And no, don't point to message boards and what they say…Dabo doesn't give two ***** about what is said on here good or bad.
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Re: You think Dabo is unhappy? I don't see any signs of that at
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He probably isn’t Dabo is an optimist like no other, I really don’t get how he does it. It’s not just the message board every where you look Clemson is trashed by everyone. The man is the rich, has won two national championships there’s nothing left to prove.
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Why the #### should Dabo be unhappy?
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Jan 10, 2023, 11:18 AM
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He's got year after year after year of making $9M++ regardless of how successful he is as a head coach or the trajectory of the Clemson football program. We've literally put it ALL in his hands, and there isn't much point in even discussing it.
I have no idea what's going to happen in the future with Clemson football. I am very surprised and disappointed in the way things are going right now, specifically since the end of the 2020 season. Dabo's refusal to change anything would seem to indicate that he's not greatly concerned. I sincerely hope that isn't the case, but I cannot escape that conclusion until I see him do something the change the current trajectory of the program... because even the sunniest, most deluded pumper here knows it isn't good right now.
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Re: Why the #### should Dabo be unhappy?
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Both coordinators changed last year.
Some of you are just ridiculous.
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Everyone knows that you bozo!!
Jan 10, 2023, 5:29 PM
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Refute ANYTHING I said. Go ahead.
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False . . . and these false dichotomies gotta go ..
Jan 10, 2023, 7:21 PM
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both coordinators left for other jobs. Dabo didn't make a change there. He hired replacements.
And the false dichotomy is killing this debate and continuing to maker folks talk past each other. The program isn't falling apart. But neither is it thriving and continuing to innovate or adjust to maximize potential in a thoroughgoing way. Some aspects suffer from stagnancy and atrophy, autopilot, force of habit, and complacency. Any attempt simply point at
"11-3 and an ACC title" w/ no more nuance than that is simply an attempt to dismiss the problems with handwaving. . . Likewise, characterizations that inflate the problems to unmitigated catastrophe levels are likewise blinkered.
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Re: Not gonna lie if were Dabo
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I don't know - I think I could put up with a lot of people calling me stupid for $11+ million a year.
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Re: Not gonna lie if were Dabo
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That’s true but if I’m already rich really wouldn’t care about the money. He wouldn’t have any issues making money after coaching.
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Re: Not gonna lie if were Dabo
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Maybe he loves coaching football. Maybe he realizes how incredibly blessed he is to get rich doing what he loves to do. Maybe those factors far outweigh what people say about the program. I'd hazard a guess that Dabo doesn't care in the least what fans post. Would you want a coach who made decisions based on what fans thought?
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So, YOU would tell Clemson to take their 100 mil & shove it?
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LOL. I call BS sir. Complete and total BS.
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Re: So, YOU would tell Clemson to take their 100 mil & shove it?
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You know there are these crazy type of people in this world that money isn’t everything to them right?
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I THINK
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We need a NEW Tigernet composed of people who truly love and support the Clemson Tigers. Today there is far far to many trying to destroy what I believe in. I’m getting close to calling in sick !!!!
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Destroy? LOL
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hyperbole much?
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Re: Not gonna lie if were Dabo
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At this point, the state of college football might have him more concerned than the fans. It's the underlying cause of what is happening.
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Re: Not gonna lie if were Dabo
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Yeah I’m sure you’d walk away from 11 mill a year to coach football. Good thing you’ll never be in the position to make that decision.
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Re: Not gonna lie if were Dabo
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Good thing nobody on Tnet has any say so
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Re: Not gonna lie if were Dabo
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If I were Dabo I'd hire a real staff and not slowly run the program into the ground.
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Re: Not gonna lie if were Dabo
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Well maybe he will put the program back where he found it. We sucked before he took over. 7-6 8-5 were good seasons for us. We have been one of the most consistent teams in the country going back to 2011. Us and Bama and Uga is there now. Stop with all your crying. Sound pathetic.
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Re: Not gonna lie if were Dabo
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Dabo has done a lot of amazing things for this program including 2 national championships that I thought I would never see-I was born in 91 and was brought up going to every game in the Bowden era. That does not give Dabo a pass in my mind for his inexcusable friend/nepotism hires he has made. Wes Goodwin is 37 years old, had never coached football and is clearly in over his head. Do I really even need to say anything about Streeter and the offense? All of our staff from the coordinators down to the office staff are underqualified and we could get way more for the money we are spending. We won 2/3 national championships to Dabo's credit but he did not build on it and instead has us falling behind.
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PREACH! I mean look no further than our
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The program is going into the shidder I tell ya!
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Was Jeff Scott underqualified? Was he a "Friend/nepotism"
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hire? I think it worked out pretty good for us. Was Brad Scott for that matter? I think his and Jeff's recruiting was pretty darn good.
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Re: Was Jeff Scott underqualified? Was he a "Friend/nepotism"
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We could easily have a way better staff that would allow us to compete for national championships imo. If we want to pay Dabo for past performance and let him do what he wants so be it-maybe he's earned it but I want more. And, yes, I miss Jeff's recruiting.
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So then you agree, that some internal hires have worked out?***
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Re: Not gonna lie if were Dabo
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Don’t knock the secretaries! They are pretty good analysts from what I hear.
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Well... if Dabo is spending time reading Tnet instead of
Jan 10, 2023, 11:10 AM
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recruiting, developing players, seeking out the best coaches for his staff, looking at other programs who have success, working on improving the product... then sure, he should walk away from 11 mill a year...
But I betcha he isn't...
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Re: Not gonna lie if were Dabo
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No offense, but you seem too emotional to have a job like Dabo’s. Luckily he is guided by reason.
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only if he blames Tnet on the way out
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GO DABO - ALL IN - GO TIGERS
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stop the moaning
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$110 million, are you kidding
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Then you are a fool***
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Re: Not gonna lie if were Dabo
Jan 10, 2023, 12:42 PM
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“Not worth it” ?
I would say it’s worth it. He is one the highest paid coaches in college football.
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Careful. You could make Judge Keller creme her
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undies with talk like that.
If only.
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Re: Not gonna lie if were Dabo
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Dabo is a grown man and not unduly affected by whimpering and hang-wringing from the peanut gallery.
I am concerned that Fabo is getting frustrated by ‘entitled’ fans who levy hyperbolic criticism of players that they don’t like by CALLING OUT THE PLAYER BY NAME.
The abundance of spoiled brat fans in Clemson Nation is disgusting. (This ‘brat’ syndrome is NOT limited to young fans; I hear snide, loud, and churlish comments from Clemson fans who are old enough to be grand parents.)
If Dabo comes to believe that his presence contributes too much of the wrath to which his players are exposed, then I could see him hanging it up or giving it a shot elsewhere (Bama).
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Re: Not gonna lie if were Dabo
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As if Bama would take Dabo. All the Bama fans I know don’t want Dabo.
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Re: Not gonna lie if were Dabo
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As if Bama would take Dabo. All the Bama fans I know don’t want Dabo.
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Sure hope he sees this bro***
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Re: Sure hope he sees this bro***
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Lord knows if we lose Dabo we may end up with Streeter for head coach. Be careful what you wish for
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Yeah, but you're independently wealthy.***
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He's not being portrayed as stupid, just stubborn.***
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Dabo has ultimate job security and makes in excess of $10 million a year.
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Good Lord, that's pathetic***
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