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Dabo change in demeanor, and I like it
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Mar 13, 2025, 8:25 AM
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The last few years Dabo has been talking up his players and the team
Things seem a little different this year.
Calling out the DB’s and calling out the starting QB
Perhaps we had some fragile young players the last few year who lacked confidence and needed to be coddled.
I’m cautiously taking this as a good sign that this team is tough and can take the pressure and the heat. Or maybe I’m reading into it too much.
At any rate, I think dabo is setting a different tone early
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Mar 13, 2025, 8:28 AM
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Tough love...before everyone on team were all Americans until the first game...then the truth showed up!
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Re: Dabo change in demeanor, and I like it
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Mar 13, 2025, 8:28 AM
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I noticed that as well. May be that with an experienced team he knows he can be extra tough on them and they'll respond. No need for coddling when you're trying to get them into championship mode.
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Mar 13, 2025, 8:30 AM
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From my experience watching Dabo, if he’s talking up our team it’s not a good sign. If he is criticizing their effort and their play lookout. In 2018 he did a lot of criticizing pre-season
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Re: Dabo change in demeanor, and I like it
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Mar 13, 2025, 8:39 AM
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He seems to have that hidden confidence back again. Good to see!!!
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Re: Dabo change in demeanor, and I like it
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Mar 13, 2025, 8:47 AM
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You're so right!
For the past few years I've grown increasingly tired of the pre-season hype and coach speak which didn't materialize on the playing field. At times I wondered what Dabo saw that looked (to me) so at odds with what I was seeing on the field.
We're seeing the rebirth of a great coach - one who has recognized that his choice of coaching hires was flawed in terms of results that improved the team's success on the field. Not that he hired bad people, but rather he hired good people that he liked even though they weren't ready for the job. He's now made the coaching changes that will provide for team success.
He's also recognized that he can't coach some players from low probability of success to positions of greatness on the field, so he has embraced the portal in order to gain enough players he can coach to fill needs for team success.
He's obviously done something to utilize NIL as enough of a "sweetener" to gain the needed quality of potential in the athletes he's able to attract.... again, to improve the team success.
Now he's recognizing that he can't "talk" the talk without walking the walk of bringing out the best in players. Along with players being paid (which can cause them to think a bit too highly of themselves), Dabo's recognizing that they need a reality check and some tough coaching to get them to perform at their best..... again for team success.
You're seeing a Dabo II head coach..... and I'm glad to see it. It bodes well for this season. This is the kind of hype I like!
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National Champion [7902]
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I was surprised to hear him call out Cade
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Mar 13, 2025, 9:14 AM
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Maybe there's a QB on campus now who is strong enough to push Cade right away. Last time we had freshman QBs who were good enough to do that we started winning championships.
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Re: I was surprised to hear him call out Cade
Mar 13, 2025, 9:49 AM
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Maybe there's a QB on campus now who is strong enough to push Cade right away. Last time we had freshman QBs who were good enough to do that we started winning championships.
He’s probably not happy to hear Cade’s off to Cabo again this year.
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Re: I was surprised to hear him call out Cade
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Mar 13, 2025, 9:54 AM
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Those QBs were generational players who started as freshmen and also started as NFL rookies. We don't have anyone like that on the roster behind Cade.
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National Champion [7902]
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You have no way of knowing
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Mar 13, 2025, 10:02 AM
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whether or not we have a QB who has impressed Dabo enough to truly compete for the starting spot this fall. Maybe more than one. Let's face it - Cade has a lot of heart but he ain't exactly been Mr. Consistent. Not last season, not the season before that. IMO if we are going to return to our previous elite status and get back in the discussion, we'll need a better QB than Klubnik.
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Re: You have no way of knowing
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Mar 13, 2025, 10:58 AM
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Did you not watch the games last year? Cade was stellar, consistent, reliable, and protected the ball. He's one of the top QBs in the country and a Heisman frontrunner.
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National Champion [7902]
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He was better. He was NOT a Heisman frontrunner
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Mar 13, 2025, 11:56 AM
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Ane he won't be until he plays at an elite level. So far he has not. He wasn't "Stellar". He was improved. And you would certainly expect him to be improved as the elite QBs his age were looking to their NFL draft status at the end of last season; He was not. Will he turn that corner to "GREAT" in 2025? I sure hope so. It's about time!!!!! He seems to have the weapons around him and an improved OL to protect him. No excuses. It's now or never... and according to Dabo he's still got work to do as a SENIOR.
Again, he has heart; he's the guy you really want to see make it. But we've had MUCH better QBs at Clemson in the last 10 years.
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Hall of Famer [8312]
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Re: He was better. He was NOT a Heisman frontrunner
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Mar 13, 2025, 12:57 PM
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He IS a Heisman frontrunner, right now. He is top 3 in the odds.
Last year, he passed for 3700 yards, 36 TDs, 6 INTs, 63.4% completions.
He ran for 463 yards and 7 TDs.
9th in the P5 in yards.
3rd in the P5 in TDs.
No Top 50 P5 QB had fewer interceptions.
Saying that's not stellar is ridiculous.
BTW, Trevor's best season (which was one more game played than Klubnik):
3700 yards
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563 yards rushing, 9 TDs
Nearly identical to CK last year.
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National Champion [7902]
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Then you tell me Blue Jay, you tell me...
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Mar 2, 2024, 12:18 AM
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With numbers like that, why wasn't Cade Klubnik one of the top 3 QB's in the NFL draft projections last year? Did Trevor Lawrence ever lose a regular season game???
If Cade Klubnik is comparable to Trevor Lawrence, then why did he ride the pine behind that scrub waste of a uniform DJ Ukelele until the END OF HIS SOPHOMORE SEASON???
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Cade was much improved last season but nowhere close to Trevor.***
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Mar 13, 2025, 2:21 PM
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Re: Then you tell me Blue Jay, you tell me...
Mar 13, 2025, 2:42 PM
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He's not a top 3 NFL QB draft pick. I'm not saying that. You seem to be having a hard time comprehending the fact that he had a stellar season in 2024, and that can be true without him being a top draft pick.
The comparison to TL was STATS, not the player. Klubnik's stats are facts, and they paint a stellar 2024.
And, similarly, we aren't talking about CK's freshman or sophomore seasons. We are talking about last year. The fact he sat behind DJU for 2 years is irrelevant when assessing 2024, and in projecting 2025.
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The "scrub waste of a uniform" DJ U had us at 8-0, in the CFP's initial
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Mar 13, 2025, 3:08 PM
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4-team selection, and was on Heisman watch during CK2's FRESHMAN season with YTD #'s rivaling DW4 and TL16's best seasons. It's nonsense to think CK2 would play over him the way DJU was delivering. Get a freaking clue. Unfortunately DJU may be the single worst athlete I've ever seen in the way he responds to good press and positive hype - absolutely tanks it when expectations are high - and we saw that at the season's very end. And guess what? When it happened, CK2 replaced him. As a Freshman.
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National Champion [7902]
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He's a scrub
Mar 13, 2025, 4:08 PM
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His college career proves it.
Klubnik has a chance to be great. But he hasn't been there yet. As for stats... I guess we can see now how deceptive they can be. And for Bluejay to say that a QB's NFL potential means nothing when evaluating him, well... ok. No point in further discussion if you're unwilling to admit the obvious.
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Re: He's a scrub
Mar 14, 2025, 10:39 AM
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I didn't say that, at all. I said the fact that someone is not a top-3 NFL QB does not disqualify that same individual from having a stellar season.
Your comprehension skills are really lacking.
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Paw Master [17296]
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Yeah, Booted one player out of practice yesterday!!
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Mar 13, 2025, 9:51 AM
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Never heard why, but 'discipline' is necessary and welcomed!!
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Re: Yeah, Booted one player out of practice yesterday!!
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Mar 13, 2025, 9:55 AM
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It says in the article that he committed a dumb penalty.
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National Champion [7478]
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Re: Dabo change in demeanor, and I like it
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Mar 13, 2025, 9:55 AM
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Amen. Much more believable than the non-stop sunshine pumping.
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Dabo has hired coaches like Allen who instill toughness and accountability.
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Mar 13, 2025, 10:35 AM
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They have changed the culture for the better and Dabo has picked up on it.
It is similar to the effect Chad Morris had when he was hired. We went from a soft and underachieving team to a tougher, more aggressive one. That’s what we see happening now too.
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Re: Dabo has hired coaches like Allen who instill toughness and accountability.
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Mar 13, 2025, 12:04 PM
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If we hired a Chad Morris equivalent today you’d lose your mind. He was barely removed from hs coaching. He had no P5 coaching experience - none.
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Morris was innovative with a proven system.
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Mar 13, 2025, 2:24 PM
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He replaced Napier who was unqualified and overwhelmed in the OC role and had no system. Plus, we had not won 10 games in a season in nearly 20 years, and no ACC title in a long time as well. Our investment in football then wasn’t what it used to be now, so the hire made sense - especially since it got Dabo out of playcalling duties.
Very different situations, but you know that.
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Legend [6899]
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Re: Morris was innovative with a proven system.
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Mar 13, 2025, 2:27 PM
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Its not.
You rail on Dabo for what you deem to be inexperienced hires, and Chad Morris would exactly fit that bill today. Inexperience is inexperience, no matter who they replace.
Viz is 1,000% correct here but you just cant bring yourself to admit it. Its rather transparent to anyone paying attention.
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Umm, Chad had been an OC in college and set offensive records.
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Mar 13, 2025, 2:38 PM
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That is a far cry from many of the coaches Dabo hired who have zero relevant experience for their positions at Clemson.
And our situation the last five years, with recent history of elite national championship caliber football, is a far cry from where we were in the early 2010s when Morris was hired.
You are going to lose any shred of credibility you have if you try to argue that the two situations are the same.
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Re: Umm, Chad had been an OC in college and set offensive records.
Mar 13, 2025, 4:00 PM
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Perfect example of your dishonesty. Morris had a single season of college football in any position. He was the OC at Tulsa for one year. Everything before that was high school. Tulsa is one of the worst programs in D1. Those stats were compiled against the 72 worst of 93 schedules played in Tulsa history. It still resulted in a team performance that ranks outside the top quartile of this awful program. By the time Dabo fired Napier he 5 years of experience of a P5 school, 6 years as a professional college coach and 2 years as a GA. Morris was an extremely risky, outside the box hire that paid massive dividends. Rather than admit that and give Dabo the credit he deserves you try to contort reality to fit your narrative.
“It is similar to the effect Chad Morris had when he was hired. We went from a soft and underachieving team to a tougher, more aggressive one.” If we’re a far cry from where we were then why are you, just a couple posts earlier, trying to draw this comparison?
“ You are going to lose any shred of credibility you have”. How does one measure credibility on TNet? You show a pulse of 77%. That’s pretty bad for a guy that was locked in at 100% before he started bashing Dabo. Since TNET introduced the newest rewards system your pulse only runs 45%. You are down voted more than you are up voted even with your little sycophant army backing you up at every turn. You have, more than any other factor, poisoned the well against Brad and I know you see it. So the question is why does a real Clemson fan do everything in his power to insult the football program AND turn as many people as he can against the basketball program?
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Tiger Titan [50638]
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You sure do spend a lot of time worrying about me and my TigerNet pulse.
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Mar 14, 2025, 1:22 AM
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That’s creepy dude.
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I imagine he thinks about you a lot while he is offline as well***
Mar 14, 2025, 1:37 AM
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Re: Morris was innovative with a proven system.
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Nothing you say contradicts my point. Morris did not bring “toughness. And Napier had more experience than Dabo and Swinney combined. I’m not criticizing the Morris hire. But it doesn’t confirm your horsecrap narrative.
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Wait...Do you think Dabo and Swinney are two separate people? That would explain
Mar 13, 2025, 3:21 PM
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a lot...I wish I could make this #### up... viztiz iq tested?
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Too late...You clearly think they are different people...It explains so much***
Mar 13, 2025, 3:36 PM
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CU Medallion [18436]
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Whyd you delete your post!
Mar 13, 2025, 4:01 PM
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Guess I need to book mark it so I can highlight more of your hypocrisy.
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CU Medallion [18144]
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I deleted nothing...Still right there, just won't load for some reason...Take it
Mar 13, 2025, 4:20 PM
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up with the Mods next time you are whining to them about being picked on
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CU Medallion [18436]
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If I deleted it Lizviz, it would say "message removed by author" like the posts
Mar 14, 2025, 1:09 AM
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you deleted viztiz , this appears to be a board error...Feel free to comment the Mods...again
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Once again Liztiz, another example where I provided proof the issue wasn't on
Mar 14, 2025, 7:39 AM
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my end...Take it up with the Mods...It's clearly a broken link and not a deleted post...That's why it still shows up instead of saying message removed by author Einstein
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Re: Once again Liztiz, another example where I provided proof the issue wasn't on
Mar 14, 2025, 11:37 AM
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You take it up with the mods. It’s your busted post. To my problem.
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At least you can admit it's broken now and not deleted...baby steps***
Mar 14, 2025, 2:25 PM
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Re: At least you can admit it's broken now and not deleted...baby steps***
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I was taking your word for it - something you are loathe to reciprocate. I don’t know it wasn’t deleted. I just know it’s busted. It’s not on me to figure out and I’ve seen how you treat people that try to help you. Somehow it’s worse than people that are openly hostile to you.
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Re: Dabo change in demeanor, and I like it
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Mar 13, 2025, 10:51 AM
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This team has graduated from being the youngest in the nation to one laden with experienced and talented players.
This is a championship level team that is capable of competing with anybody in the nation. Much is expected of this group.
This is a year that can be used as a metric to gage not only our team but Dabo and staff.
Dabo had best turn up the heat lest have the fans turn up the heat on him at seasons end if things go south.
Dabo is answering the call just as he expects his players to answer.
FWIW I think he gets it done. Go Tigers !
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Ive noticed a change in CBBs demeanor as well since the Indiana news broke
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and I’m not liking it.
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Who cares?
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Mar 13, 2025, 11:59 AM
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We can find a coach who's willing to come here and become a multi-millionaire in 10 years before anyone really begins to expect success.
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Exactly, its not like we even play for rings around here
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As long as we have fun doing it that's all that matters.
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No rings for basketball
Mar 13, 2025, 4:09 PM
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xvb
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Once a Tiger always a Tiger
Mar 14, 2025, 11:39 AM
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Do we hang a banner now?
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they needed to be coddled huh
Mar 13, 2025, 4:02 PM
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sounds like they need the oklahoma drill.
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Re: Dabo change in demeanor, and I like it
Mar 13, 2025, 7:47 PM
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I think he started with the basketball team and getting them on track and is just a carrying it on over to this next football season.
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There is a simple answer
Mar 15, 2025, 1:24 PM
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Since BV left, Dabo has not had a peer on the coaching staff. Now he has two - Luke and Allen - who have been HC's in big time conferences. Dabo's demeanor reflects being around pros.
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