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Gridiron Giant [16037]
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It's crazy how broken the bowls are. Even teams like Clemson
Dec 21, 2013, 11:40 AM
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for the 2nd biggest bowl to the national championship have a hard time selling tickets.
Florida and Louisville in the freaking Sugar Bowl had 22,000 unsold seats last year.
It's a shame.
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Game Changer [1750]
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I agree with you.
Dec 21, 2013, 11:53 AM
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Except for the biggest four or so bowls, who makes money? It seems to me everyone involved loses money. The city, the teams, the sponsor... I don't get it.
Does El Paso need the Sun Bowl, the Orlando need the, does Tampa need the.. does Memphis, Birmingham, Charlotte, Nashville... I really don't get it.
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Clemson Icon [27793]
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The Sun Bowl is one of the oldest bowls***
Dec 21, 2013, 11:56 AM
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Ring of Honor [23955]
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You can buy a 60inch TV, A/V Receiver and surround speakers
Dec 21, 2013, 11:54 AM
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for the family unit and watch it on TV for about what it would cost to go to the bowl game. 
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Varsity [100]
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Re: You can buy a 60inch TV, A/V Receiver and surround speakers
Aug 26, 2012, 4:18 PM
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But then you can actually see the game at an angle that makes it clear where the runner just ran for 2 yards or 12 yards.
I much rather like looking up at the scoreboard after the play is over to account for the terrible depth perception that a lot of stadium seating provides.
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Orange Blooded [2293]
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Re: You can buy a 60inch TV, A/V Receiver and surround speakers
Dec 22, 2013, 11:44 AM
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> for the family unit and watch it on TV for about what
> it would cost to go to the bowl game.
....and continue watching games on it for years to come.
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Ultimate Tiger [36452]
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Re: It's crazy how broken the bowls are. Even teams like Clemson
Dec 21, 2013, 11:57 AM
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The good bowl games make a lot of money from TV advertisement. Doesn't matter if there are 22k empty seats. They still get several million for a 30second ad. Ticket sales are just a small portion of the revenue.
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Head Coach [921]
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Re: It's crazy how broken the bowls are. Even teams like Clemson
Dec 22, 2013, 1:12 AM
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Not several million.
The Super Bowl was like $4MM last year with 20 times the audience.
OB could probably be had in the range of $150K or probably as a pacakage across multiple games for alot less.
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Scout Team [166]
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That game was on a Wednesday without
Dec 21, 2013, 12:11 PM
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the assistance of a holiday to help. Same as 2012 Orange bowl when Clemson played on Wednesday. Bowl Execs are too dumb to realize that bowls games should be played on Holidays and weekends.
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110%er [7834]
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They all say they lose money
Dec 21, 2013, 12:11 PM
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Yet year after year.... Decade after decade.... They're still doing it. You can bet most all involved make money
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CU Guru [1346]
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Exactly. There is no way teams would go year after year
Dec 22, 2013, 12:02 PM
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if they didn't find some value in it. How many teams ever turn down a bowl invitation???
Same for those who put on the bowls. They make money.
It's no different that a profit-making company going to a trade exhibition. It can cost a lot of money. And more often than not you don't "make" enough money in sales at a show. But in the long run you determine there is value. With college football, it's not hard to figure repeated bowl appearances impress recruits AND donors AND prospective students to some degree.
The only problem is there are too darn many.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108265]
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mmhm, they call it the flutie effect.***
Dec 22, 2013, 12:11 PM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108265]
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they are mostly non profit organizations designed to help
Dec 22, 2013, 12:10 PM
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the local/area community.
i know a bit about the orange bowl committee. it's a year round organization that does legacy projects with local parks[moore being one], sponsor youth organizations, scholarships et al
the organization created the bowl many years ago to bring business, tourism, trade to southern florida. i've seen the total financial impact listed ~ $300mil.
can't speak for all the other bowls, but i imagine they are built with similar missions/visions.
i agree they aren't as special as they used to be because of number, but the communities get a chance to show off their wares for business & visitor alike then give back to the local communities in varying forms of support.
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Paw Master [17108]
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Non-profit don't mean what it used to DSP...Kind of like
Dec 22, 2013, 11:45 PM
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"employee owned"...I don't doubt that the OBC doesn't help the community, but they help themselves too...Usually to the tune of 49%...
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108265]
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and? they employ a lot of people. is that a problem?***
Dec 22, 2013, 11:55 PM
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110%er [7834]
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Re: and? they employ a lot of people. is that a problem?***
Dec 28, 2013, 8:53 PM
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That depends on how the top dogs are paid.....and a lot of the time they make extremely high salaries
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108265]
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kewl. good for them, they do a lot of great work for
Dec 28, 2013, 9:10 PM
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southern florida.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [99912]
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Whazzup with you and Mack Daddy resurrecting a thread
Dec 28, 2013, 9:15 PM
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that had been dead for a week? Should I call you Dr. and Mrs. Frankenstein?
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108265]
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me?
Dec 28, 2013, 9:16 PM
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smh.
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Paw Master [17108]
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Of course they do...They strong arm the schools into
Dec 22, 2013, 11:33 PM
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buying crappy tickets and sell the best ones themselves
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110%er [5330]
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I think most people just don't have the money now
Dec 22, 2013, 4:06 PM
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to drop on a trip to Miami or wherever... The bowls aren't THAT much more broken than 2003, and you couldn't give Clemson fans enough tickets to the Peach Bowl that year...
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110%er [3945]
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Its the economy!***
Dec 22, 2013, 10:28 PM
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1st Rounder [639]
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Re: Its the economy!***
Dec 23, 2013, 7:27 AM
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there are also a million places to watch the games on TV, laptops, even smart phones now...
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Clemson Icon [26756]
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The proliferation of the bowls means that a number of
Dec 23, 2013, 4:51 AM
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schools receive invitations annually, even though some may have had mediocre seasons.
Thus, fans are having to decide if they want to spend every Christmas/New Year's holiday at bowl games. Add that to the rising costs to attend, and attendance can suffer.
It reminds me of an old saw: too much of a good thing...blah blah blah!
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Associate AD [1004]
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It is not a big deal to play in a bowl game like it was
Dec 23, 2013, 7:55 AM
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before the 1990's.
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All-Time Great [97780]
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Yep, bowls a joke & political too..But glad TiGERS got OB!**
Dec 23, 2013, 8:41 AM
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Crack the NUTS!
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CU Medallion [18535]
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It's no longer hard to go to a bowl game, so the excitement
Dec 28, 2013, 9:58 PM
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level is lower. When it was hard to get in one you were jacked to go, especially if your team had not been to one in a while. Now decent teams go EVERY year, even when they are 6 and 6. Hard to shell out the bucks to go to a bowl game every year after paying the high dollars the schools want from you during the year now. Back in the 90's tickets were $20 a game. CRAZY now!
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