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People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:14 PM
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For someone’s who’s not an X and O expert, can someone give me an example of a mistake or mistakes he made?
From my perspective he looked more poised, protected the ball, and generally made good decisions… the three big misses I saw were Cole not looking for the ball on his deep route, Antonio losing the ball in the lights, and Randall’s illegal formation penalty… these were on the receivers, not Cade
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:15 PM
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The problem is Riley.
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:17 PM
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Ok, what’s the argument there?
My thoughts are that Riley didn’t fail to look for the ball or line up in the wrong spot… if there’s something I’m missing though I’m curious
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:22 PM
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This is Rileys 14th game at Clemson.
Nothing has changed since he's been there. He doesn't create plays that help the offense out. There's never any easy throws that are created from a good scheme. Every play no matter the competition is difficult. Watch other games and you will see several plays where someone is wide open for a 20 yard play.
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What is the difference between Rileys O and Streeters?***
Aug 31, 2024, 8:26 PM
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Re: What is the difference between Rileys O and Streeters?***
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:45 PM
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Streeters offense was 60th in the country for yards per play. Riley’s was 103. Behind ####### UCONN. That’s the difference
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Or Tony E for that matter? One common denominator.
Aug 31, 2024, 9:54 PM
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The headman that runs the "Clemson" offense. We just do not have a transcendent Nfl caliber QB throwing to elite WR and game breaking running backs to keep the defense off balance anymore.
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 9:01 PM
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I agree that it hasn’t looked easy lately, but I think firing Riley and blowing up the offense right now would be doing ourselves a disservice… my reasons why -
- last year’s o-line was bad and nothing looks easy if you can’t win the trenches… IMO this years team looked better (more disciplined, and I saw a ton of fight) but we just played a really really good Falcons minor league team
- last year we put the ball on the ground way too much… this wasn’t exclusively Cade but he was part of the problem, him looking more poised and under control is a step in the right direction
- last year we did move the ball, we just had trouble scoring in the red zone because of turnovers and pretty much no kicking game… We only got one kick today, but it looked good
I’m not saying everything is great, we just lost 34 - 3, that’s obviously not good… but I see silver linings and as much as today sucked, I think we’re turning the corner
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Aug 31, 2024, 9:45 PM
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Before anyone gets content with silver linings... there was no #1 or #2 RB for UGA. #1 WR was kicked off the team. .... Could have been worse. Offense got less interesting and more predictable when Chad Morris left. Then, the offense was bland and started stalling when Jeff Scott left. Trevor and the Dudes were better and their collective talent got the team to the CFP... Clemson was spoiled at QB from Taj to Watson to Trevor... and who's been a true #1 WR since Tee left? Recruiting on offense and lack of creativity in play calling.... WRs for UGA ran crisp route, put foot in the ground, got open. Cade could have had 3 total picks.
Something is stymied in recruiting offensive players, the people who coach them up and how plays are called to put them in the best light.
And I thought the Oline was suppose to be improved? Sure, good pass protection but UGA bullied them in the trench.
Recruiting great people he can mold into great men is Dabo's mission. I'm ok with that.
Tigers will be challenged for the ACC by Miami, Tech or FSU in the final. Today's team won't win ACC or a playoff game without better coaching, and better qb play. This defense isn't as deep as last year and can't win games vs top talent like year's past.
Glad to be proven wrong. Hope I am.
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Aug 31, 2024, 9:41 PM
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This looks a lot like the offense is handicapped on multiple fronts. I think Klubnik is a problem. I also think Rikey is being handicapped to run an offense dictated by the head coach.
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Aug 31, 2024, 10:11 PM
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Riley isn't playing the short game under direction of Dabo. Dabo isn't changing his philosophy and Garrett knew that before he accepted.
It's simple. Recruit a QB or continue as is.
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:46 PM
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Randall and Turner had way to much playing time, when it was obvious with of them needed a lot more bench time. Williams and barringstool played well. I imagine this was a dabo decision.
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Aug 31, 2024, 9:46 PM
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Wesco should have gotten a fly pattern so we can see Klub's arm and the Wesco speed he is sad to possess.
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 10:23 PM
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We’ve seen Cade’s arm. When he throws the ball downfield it goes almost as high as it does long. Gives the defense way too much time to react.
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Aug 31, 2024, 9:01 PM
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So far, Riley is a bust. All we see is the same plays We ran with DJ. Nothing innovative, a good coordinator takes what you have and makes the most of it. We’re just doing the same old stuff, and there’s no improvement
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Sep 1, 2024, 6:50 AM
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You admit we're seeing the same plays we always have and don't realize the truth?
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Sep 1, 2024, 6:49 AM
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LOL. Dumb ###. You blamed Elliott. Then you blamed Streeter. Then you blamed Riley. The offense has looked the same for all of them. Who is the constant? I do think our QB coaching is absolutely terrible. But Dabo insists on us running the Clemson offense (ie: his). This looks nothing like the air raid Riley has had at his previous three schools. Riley was brought in so Dabo could LOOK like he was addressing issues. You fell for it because you're stupid.
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Sep 1, 2024, 6:55 AM
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Klubnik’s inability to consistently / confidently throw beyond the sticks is the origin of the multiple problems Clemson football currently has.
We can’t correct this with Cade. He can’t consistently / confidently throw down field.
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:16 PM
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I also think we could’ve opened up the playbook sooner, but that may have been a byproduct of the fact that we never established a rhythm
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:20 PM
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Klubnik is just not very good
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Aug 31, 2024, 8:29 PM
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Solid, just absolutely amazing analysis…
Any specific reasons or evidence why buttercup?
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Aug 31, 2024, 10:17 PM
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where was he "not very good" today?
He does call the plays, he does not catch the ball, he does not block...
1st series... after we win the toss and decide we want the ball (start of a long series of bad decisions) was shocked when we decided to receive...
1. Mafah drop on a low but catchable ball, he catches it he's got at least 20 yards
2. Penalty - illegal motion.. negates a 9-yard pass
3. Bringstool drop...
4. UGA offside
5. Pass to Mafah in the flat gain of 1
6. Punt
How many 2d and 3d and 1 and we cannot get 1 yard? All game.
None of that is on 2
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:20 PM
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So you’re judging him because of how he looked on the sideline when the camera panned to him? Not quite the X and O example I was looking for, but thanks I guess
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That and all of last year***
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Aug 31, 2024, 10:37 PM
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I havent gone back and looked at the UGA film
Sep 1, 2024, 7:21 AM
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but there were plenty of times when receivers were wide open last year and Cade never saw them. Even commentators outside of the program have remarked about this. He processes the game slow. He rarely looks beyond his first read. He panics and makes boneheaded decisions. He puts too much air under the ball.
Riley’s offense is handcuffed because of Cade. Riley’s offense is what we saw at TCU. No offense can look great without a good QB.
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:23 PM
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Maybe, but the WR's, outside of Williams, didn't do anything to help. How in the #### is Randall still on the field? Year 3 in the program and his dumb ### doesn't know what route he's supposed to run, or to check with the line judge that he's on the line? Cole Turner giving up on go routes?
Then you've got the running backs, where Mafah still couldn't pass block if you held a gun to his head, and we have absolutely no quality depth behind him.
I don't argue that the offense under Riley has looked like garbage, but we're only in year 2 of him. We're on years 4 and 5 of the failed Spiller and Grisham experiments.
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:30 PM
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In today's FB you need to be successful immediately. The days of it's his first year are over. Nick Saban changed coordinators every year and won championships.
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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I must agree ..........
Go back to the spring game .......
QB3 had results with BOTH teams........
RESULTS are ALL that matter no matter any talent gap!!!
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He was PART of the problem.
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:16 PM
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There is a lot of blame to go around, though. The playcalling and prep was shiiit too!
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Make no mistake. Cade sucks.
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:20 PM
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But the whole coaching staff shares the blame too.
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Re: He was PART of the problem.
Aug 31, 2024, 10:19 PM
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What bounce pass? Low pass? Yes. Catchable? Yes.
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Wrong.***
Sep 1, 2024, 3:24 AM
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:17 PM
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It’s a both/and. I thought he looked better in the pocket and made throws he needed to except for the first play of the game. He needs to make quicker decisions.
On the other side, we’ve either got to call better plays or Grisham needs his dudes to grow a pair.
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Aug 31, 2024, 8:21 PM
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Fair, first throw of the game was a miss
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:18 PM
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He was a problem, but not the only one. He has regressed over time instead of getting better.
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Who is the last Clemson QB who honestly got better here?***
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Re: Who is the last Clemson QB who honestly got better here?***
Aug 31, 2024, 8:46 PM
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I mean I’d say DJU… he just started from very low spot and isn’t really a quarterback… he’s just a lineman with a #### of an arm
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Aug 31, 2024, 8:32 PM
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What’s your evidence that he’s regressed?
No fumbles today, better pocket presence (he took 1 sack I think), and he seemed for have much better command of the offense
We’re either watching different games, you’re seeing something I’m not, or I dunno… you’re just trying to be negative
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:20 PM
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He doesn’t throw to spots or trust his play designs. He waits until he sees a guy open which is too late. He’s terrible.
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Aug 31, 2024, 8:36 PM
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Which play or plays did you see this happen on? Really truly I am curious for examples?
My counter evidence, in advance, was the sideline route to Antonio… that was a great throw
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Clemson Conqueror [11240]
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 10:30 PM
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Literally every play. The play you are citing is evidence he should do it every play.
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Aug 31, 2024, 9:39 PM
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Play designs left alot to be desired and run plays where you leave the backside guy free and it's not a read option need to be jettisioned from the playbook.
I really don't understand how a kid who went from throwing guys open has gotten to this point but I'll agree it's been 2 qbs in a row that wait for wide open wrs before throwing the ball. Doesn't help that there's 3rd year wrs that can't track the ball or know their routes or how to line up.
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T-Law had more ability than any college qb i've ever seen
Aug 31, 2024, 10:00 PM
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But he also rarely threw guys open.
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You watched the wrong game
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:21 PM
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Play 1. Through at the ankles .
4th down looked confused
Took unnecessary sacks
I could go on but my guess is you are too blinded to understand reason .
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Re: You watched the wrong game
Aug 31, 2024, 8:38 PM
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Play 1 I agree, I also saw one sack we couldn’t take, I think it was late in the third quarter or early in the 4th
What plays did he look confused on though?
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:22 PM
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Cade is soft and plays like a little b***h. Zero anticipation and a poor decision maker.
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Aug 31, 2024, 8:41 PM
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So no examples… bummer
I really pity people like you
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:49 PM
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No examples of poor anticipation or poor decision making? Did you watch the game? At least be a little honest with yourself and see that he’s severely flawed as a QB. Nice kid, just not a high level QB.
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Aug 31, 2024, 9:21 PM
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Of course I watched the game, but as I led with… I’m no X and O expert.
Can you give me an example of poor anticipation or poor decision making?
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Aug 31, 2024, 11:57 PM
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How about the dumb play in the 3rd quarter when he checks down to Mafa who’s about 7 yards behind the LOS and he’s got 2 GA defenders right in front of him just waiting to tackle him for a loss? Either throw it downfield or try to get some yards with your legs or throw it out of bounds.
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Cade must be your nephew, little princess. If you think Cade played well or is a good QB, you need to stick with bowling sweetheart. He can’t throw, can’t scramble, and is only getting worse. Lots of coaching problems that need to be fixed but bench this loser asap.
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:55 PM
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You’ve got to wonder what happened to the Klubnick who took over the ACC Championship game against North Carolina and was energized and sharp as a tack?
Where is that guy?
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Noooobamaaaa whaaaat?
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Cade sucks are you blind? He doesn’t trust receivers to be there. He puts too much air under ball and throws 5 seconds too late. He’s slow. He could not hit a 20’ by 20’ barn door from five yards away! He doesn’t check down his 2nd and 3rd receivers. He locks in on one receiver constantly. Should I continue?
🤦🏻♂️ transfer tomorrow.
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Re: Noooobamaaaa whaaaat?
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Our WR's are a much bigger problem than Cade. The run bad routes, if they even run the correct route to begin with. They don't fight for the ball. They give up on routes while they're being targeted. They continue to have unforced drops. Not really sure I'd trust them either. Randall and Turner both need to be left in Atlanta.
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Re: Noooobamaaaa whaaaat?
Aug 31, 2024, 8:57 PM
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And who is coaching them?
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Re: Noooobamaaaa whaaaat?
Aug 31, 2024, 9:00 PM
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Who's coaching our WR's? Tyler Grisham, and he's a nepo baby that shouldn't have a job at a D1 program right now. I appreciate what he did as a player here, but he was a slot guy, and from the looks of it, the only receivers he knows how to coach are slot guys, who we then have to move outside because the boundary guys regress. I would wager to guess the reason he wasn't fired last year was because he brought in Wesco and Moore, but hopefully this is his last chance.
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Re: Noooobamaaaa whaaaat?
Aug 31, 2024, 8:43 PM
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Can you give me an example of a play where he failed to look for his 2nd and 3rd options?
Would love a breakdown
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You’re part of the problem. Go away. Cade sucks. Why do you need an explanation as to why??? Watch the #### game
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Commissioner [1212]
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Aug 31, 2024, 9:40 PM
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So you don’t want to talk about Clemson Football? Why are you here then?
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Game Changer [1809]
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Aug 31, 2024, 10:21 PM
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Man I’ve bitched moaned complained yelled about Clemson football leading up to today and all day today. I’m over it and ready for basketball. This team is trash. Dabo is an arrogant average coach
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Commissioner [1212]
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Aug 31, 2024, 10:27 PM
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So you’re here to ##### and moan… at least you’re honest, but wouldn’t life be easier if maybe you didn’t do that?
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Associate AD [1036]
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:45 PM
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The confidence in Cade showed with the calls. Georgia knew he couldn't throw over the top and defended as such. Kept everything in front of them. You call plays to your strength and weakness.
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Asst Coach [858]
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Aug 31, 2024, 9:11 PM
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He's very late on his reads and he absolutely cannot run the ball. 1 sack for 8 yd loss and 3 rushes for -9. He has no concept of a juke or fake. NONE.
He was probably a great QB at a 1A HS with some help talent.
But this is wasted breath. He'd start against the coots if we were 5-5.
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Orange Elite [5536]
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Alright, lets do this
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Aug 31, 2024, 9:17 PM
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Here are a few examples….
First play of the game, Cade throws the ball at Mafah’s shins
We had a fake pitch to Mafah and Cade looks at his first option, then immediately goes to his dump of Mafah who has arrested TWO UGA defenders!!!!
2nd half. Tyler Brown beats his man by 10 yards and it’s open for a TD. Cade under-throws by 10 yards and pass is broken up
BUT the biggest and most damning thing I see is his pocket presence and feet. Our OL protected remarkably well. Cade had a horrible habit of trying to escape the pocket from the back when the offensive guards push the ends up field. Instead of stepping up and climbing into the pocket he tries to bail around it and then he makes weak throws on the run.
This last flaw is fatal and he reverts to it under the bright lights every time.
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Commissioner [1212]
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Re: Alright, lets do this
Aug 31, 2024, 9:28 PM
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Thank you for citing examples, I would push back on 1 and 3 though… those were physical mistakes and not so much poor decisions
I agree with your 2nd point about the toss, should’ve thrown it away
Your 4th point about not stepping up in the pocket… is that coachable and/or does improvement just come with experience?
Also I’m still not so sure our O-line protected him “incredibly well” but hey, maybe that’s a problem we’ve solved
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Orange Elite [5536]
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Stepping up into the pocket is coachable
Aug 31, 2024, 9:52 PM
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Every high school qb teaches that and the footwork
I promise you he’s had the best coaching money can by
But no one can teach you to be calm under pressure when you are in the lime light
He’s a Junior qb with loads of experience, and he’s caving under the pressure and reverting to his bad habits.
At some point the player has to take some responsibility
As for the physical mistakes… the opposing qb was climbing the pocket and wasn’t making those mistakes, and they won the game
I think if Beck and Klubnik swapped teams, Clemson wins by 21 points. The gap at that one position is that bad
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CU Guru [1565]
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I'd simply counter with you don't know football.
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Aug 31, 2024, 10:06 PM
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Anyone who watched the game and has a basic understanding of football wouldn't have to continually ask for specific examples, because they have eyes. You shouldn't be expecting anyone to go break down game tape for you. It's not our job to explain it to you.
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Commissioner [1212]
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Re: I'd simply counter with you don't know football.
Aug 31, 2024, 10:20 PM
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Or, no one has really given great examples…
I agreed that the first throw was bad, I agreed that he under threw TB6 that one time, I agreed that the swing out to Madagascar was a poor decision
Why so many people are claiming that Cade needs to go is beyond me… we played a really good team and got our butts beat, but all the firing and benching and we’re he worst at everything ever talk is honestly embarrassing… I thought Clemson people were better then that
Also… we’re on a website to talk about Clemson Football, why are you here if you don’t want to talk about it?
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Campus Hero [13383]
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First play of the game.***
Aug 31, 2024, 9:33 PM
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Freshman [9]
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 9:34 PM
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FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO GETS IT. Today was a receiver problem. Period. Turner and Randall are liabilities. Cade looked in rhythm and decisive and not lost. Massive improvement over last year. O line held up well. WRs killed drives and our defense gave up.
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Paw Warrior [4710]
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 9:40 PM
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Defense did not give up they were gassed. Playing 3 300+ lb DL and expecting them to last all game is crazy.
Agree on the wrs being a massive problem. I've been a huge Cade supporter but he has regressed terribly since hs in regards to throwing with anticipation.
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Orange Elite [5536]
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You are delusional
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Aug 31, 2024, 9:56 PM
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We had open receivers all night long
Go back and count how many times Klubnik tried to run around outside pressure instead of finding the pocket and making sound throws
He had the protection and the open receivers and he’s back there running around like it’s some backyard pickup game
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Standout [228]
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 9:52 PM
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Generational talents like Deshaun and Trevor don't exist in modern football without big dollars attached. Dabs just can’t figure that out. Cade is a solid qb for a mid level school but once you’ve seen the pinnacle of the talent pool like we did with DW and TL, everyone else looks mediocre. It’s going to take money or divine intervention if things are going to change.
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Orange Blooded [2579]
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Easy one
Aug 31, 2024, 10:19 PM
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Weak/average arm, no vertical threat. On long attempts they have to slow down and come back to the ball. Can't take top off defense, essentially. Poise and decision making - you're right, he wasn't bad at all.
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CU Guru [1565]
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I don't think he has a weak arm but he tends
Aug 31, 2024, 11:50 PM
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to throw off his back foot and that causes the ball to float and is less accurate. When he has a clean pocket and steps into the throw you can set the ability and potential.
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CADE HAS NOT DEVELOPED- JUST LIKE DJ
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Aug 31, 2024, 10:38 PM
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Still playing like he's in high school, wild and untamed. Coaching failure. They can't make player performance decisions.
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Team Captain [453]
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Re: CADE HAS NOT DEVELOPED- JUST LIKE DJ
Sep 1, 2024, 3:53 AM
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Please remember that Cade was playing IN GEORGIA (and no it was NOT a neutral field as the media kept telling us) against probably the best defense in America with the best players. Clemson rarely starts out great even going back to the Ford era. We can only hope for steady improvement as the season progresses.
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 11:53 PM
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He is the problem, not to say that he can’t grow into a great QB, he has the arm talent and played the game manager type of correctly BUT on everytime he drops back you can watch and see that he gets happy feet and looks uncomfortable like he’s getting pressured when majority of the game he had the time to go through progressions and made a great throw, but he doesn’t see the field like that. He has the arm talent, just lacks decision making and the ability right now to stay poised, step up into the pocket and make a great throw. It’s not high school anymore where you can expect 10 yards of separation.
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Paw Warrior [4605]
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Aug 31, 2024, 11:57 PM
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Either no one is open ever, or he is not seeing the open guy and does not know who the play is designed to scheme open. It is in Cade's head or he and the OC are not communicating about the purpose of the play designs. Or both of those things. Either way there were half a dozen guys on the portal that could do those things and we did not get them.
If we want to play at UGA's level we have to be prepared to spend $50-100 million a year on player compensation. I don't want that for Clemson or the state of South Carolina. That kind of money would be better spent elsewhere.
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Solid Orange [1316]
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Sep 1, 2024, 7:08 AM
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If we had TL in there we would not have a Cade problem!
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Sep 1, 2024, 7:19 AM
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Clemson needed 4 yards for a first down. A man was open across the line. Instead he went deep for an interception. He did the same thing in the bowl game.
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Commissioner [1212]
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Sep 1, 2024, 7:58 AM
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It was first and 10 when he threw his pick… TB6 was his first read, and the other three receivers were all covered or double covered
This is why you people infuriate me… you pick on this kid and this program and it’s like you didn’t even watch the game… pathetic
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Varsity [206]
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Sep 1, 2024, 8:21 AM
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Settle down princess.
And yes, Cade still sucks. What did he do well, little
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Varsity [206]
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
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Sep 1, 2024, 8:04 AM
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Cade is horrible in every QB aspect. Period. He needs to be benched. Riley needs to go today. Dabo better wake up, quickly. His decline is accelerating.
Message was edited by: DanATL®
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Game Changer [2003]
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Re: People keep saying Klubnik was the problem I disagree
Sep 1, 2024, 8:07 AM
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Yeah his pocket presents looked good. He just didn’t make great decisions all the time. Still wasn’t a good day
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