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More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
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ESPN/NFL just can't help themselves can they, i posted about this 4 days ago and they keep proving me right. they now have another front page article on Watson "wondering" if it could be the worst trade ever (browns picks for Watson)
Lets stick with the cold hard facts Watson has played in 12 games for the Browns after being suspended for 2 years for not committing a crime. in those 12 games he is 8-4, including leading the team back from a big deficit in a huge game on the road with division leading baltimore with a broken shoulder and high ankle sprain.
I noticed they are trying to sort piggyback off of Stroud having 2 good games in a row (they were 3-4 before that) to try to dig the knife into watson a bit deeper insinuating to the Browns you could have had all this. I have nothing against stroud but he hasnt finished the season either and he hasnt done anything watson didnt do in his first year starting with the texans.
Having said all of that how do you think the NFL would frame any other QB like Burrow or Mahomes, overcoming a huge deficit in a big game on the road then turns out they had a broken shoulder.
The NFL claims its bottom line is just win baby......ok then....watson has an equal record with mahomes in his last 12 games, a better record than Brock Purdy in his last 12 games, a better record than Joe Burrow in his last 12 games, a better record than Josh Allen in his last 12 games.........without one of his top OL and nick chubb for the last 2.........now lets here the excuses.
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You're excluding a lot of details here***
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Re: You're excluding a lot of details here***
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Nov 16, 2023, 7:19 PM
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He's also just wrong in a lot of places. Watson wasn't suspended for 2 seasons. He refused to play for Houston after getting paid. Even if you don't believe the sexual assault stuff (personally I believe he's guilty as all ####) his actions are those of a major ####### and the fact that he played good football for Clemson doesn't change that.
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yes he was guilty of soliciting a prostitute,no rape or sexual assault***
Nov 16, 2023, 8:03 PM
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Re: yes he was guilty of soliciting a prostitute,no rape or sexual assault***
Nov 17, 2023, 10:45 AM
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EXACTLY! There are some cities in Nevada that is not even a crime. He did wrong, served his time now lets move on.
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
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Time spent on the past will never be regained. The Deshaun we all loved is not the Deshaun of today.
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
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I still love him the same. Keep grinding Deshaun prove the haters and doubters wrong!
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Typically spineless rationalizations based...
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Nov 16, 2023, 3:34 PM
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on the propaganda the media just fed you with a spoon. Go ahead and get you a second helping, fatboy—
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Did you know that Watson has only played in less than 60%
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Nov 16, 2023, 1:50 PM
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of his NFL eligible starts? Think about that.
It is an awful contract. Not faulting Watson for signing it. Congrats to his agent. Browns are stupid.
It’s not bias. He’s one of highest paid players in NFL
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Correct. So far looks like a horrible decision by Browns
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Nov 16, 2023, 2:21 PM
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I am hopeful that as time goes by this changes.
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Is it possible that his win-loss record might have something to do with
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Nov 16, 2023, 2:01 PM
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the Browns having the best defense in the NFL?
He just hasn't been very good in most of the games that he has played in, plus he's also missed a bunch of games for various reasons. Not only that, but the Browns structured his contract in a way that will cripple them through the 2026 season. His cap hit is approximately $64 million/year for the next 3 years.
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Exhibit A : Cleveland has been pitiful for 30 years
Nov 16, 2023, 2:08 PM
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so anything having to do with worst trade ever is just lunacy!
Cleveland has 6 wins this year which would be a phenomenal year any year for the Browns.
Money wise it could turn out pretty bad but that is the game in 2023.
Social media criteria : Overpay, overhype, and then in the end expose. Rinse/repeat
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Cleveland has won at least 6 games in each of the last 5 seasons
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Nov 16, 2023, 2:17 PM
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Honestly, they'd be better off right now if they had just kept Baker Mayfield and their draft picks (and the money they paid Watson).
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Watson needs to heal up and come back and shut all these "talkers"
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Nov 16, 2023, 3:38 PM
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the #### up....otherwise this type of social media coverage will be pervasive....DW4 that we knew at Clemson would eat this up and come back to dominate, but I am not so sure that is him anymore.
I certainly hope it is, and all these blowhards can bite his ### when he takes Cleveland to the playoffs and wins a Lombardi
Now that is a nice story, maybe it can happen.
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The Watson we knew at Clemson didn't go through 66 different massage
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Nov 16, 2023, 6:56 PM
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therapists in 68 weeks either
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Re: The Watson we knew at Clemson didn't go through 66 different massage
Nov 16, 2023, 7:22 PM
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There is no Watson "we knew" at Clemson. Watching interviews and seeing players on gameday does not give you a look under the hood of who they are personally.
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Re: The Watson we knew at Clemson didn't go through 66 different massage
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Who gives a sh!+ how many different prostitutes he helped out financially? It's his money and these were hetero transactions, not that it's anyone's concern. Guessing if he were conducting business with a male or a transformer yall would be applauding his openness and gushing with virtue signaling support for the lifestyle...but in typical, mesmerized by agenda driven propaganda fashion: the sheeple(oblivious to the manipulation & influence, parrot the intended nonsense:'oh the poor Instagram, thot therapists that he paid a $1000 for less than an hour's work. The scars of that $1000 can never be lifted. Oh, how will these young, innocent, pure as the driven snow, garden tools of virtue go on?' 'He must be judged harshly and to the fullest extent...well he didnt break any laws but never mind that. The voice of the dim witted sheeple have spoken & they demand ruin for DW and all his cash for the hallowed gold digging ho0kers'—
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Stroud has been amazing this year, by the way
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Nov 16, 2023, 2:14 PM
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The Texans being 5-4 does nothing to change that fact. They went 3-13-1 last year.
Stroud is currently:
#2 in passing yards
#3 in yards per attempt
#1 in yards per game
#1 in fewest interceptions thrown (among QBs who have started most of their team's games)
#10 in QBR
#6 in passer rating
Watson had a good rookie season (in the 7 games that he played in before his injury), but what Stroud is doing is historic for a rookie QB.
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Re: Stroud has been amazing this year, by the way
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Nov 16, 2023, 3:40 PM
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"Good rookie season", he was on pace to dwarf any rookie season before him (43tds, 4400 yds). In only seven games, it still stands as one of the better qb rookie seasons ever.
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
Nov 16, 2023, 2:20 PM
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It's not bias at all. The trade and $$ is definitely in the debate for worst ever.
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
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He is the highest paid player of all time with pedestrian stats in a run first offense.
The critique on his playing is more than justified.
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Please, please...
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Nov 16, 2023, 4:34 PM
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no comments from the LBGT section–
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Re: Please, please...
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Nov 16, 2023, 5:34 PM
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okay, snowflake.
Can't even have a reasonable debate w/o resorting to name calling.
Anyone who has watched those games know that they have been carried by a Super Bowl caliber defense.
He is behind Josh Dobbs, Baker Mayfield, and Sam Howell in QBR.
31st in total passing yards.
What metric are you using to determine his 230 million price tag as "worth it"
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
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Nov 16, 2023, 2:55 PM
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The NFL is painting DW with the Gruden brush...
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
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Nov 16, 2023, 2:58 PM
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How so?
It's not "the NFL" writing the article about "worst trade ever". That's the media.
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
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Nov 16, 2023, 4:57 PM
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They have been down on him since the scandal for tarnishing the image and weren’t really happy with his large guaranteed contract. Like Gruden, they pre-judged him before all the facts were known.
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
Nov 16, 2023, 5:35 PM
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the NFL was fine with Big Bens accusations. The difference is he took teams to super bowls
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
Nov 16, 2023, 7:32 PM
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Ben got 6 games for 2 accusations. Watson got 12 for what? 26 accusations?
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
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Rape and happy endings are vastly different things
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
Nov 17, 2023, 10:05 AM
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and it was hardly ever talked about again.
I don't remember hearing one mention of it while he was retiring either.
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
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Nov 16, 2023, 3:13 PM
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The media usually hypes stories for 2 reasons:
1. Their goal is to get more clicks and they think a particular story will drive that so they push it (they are in the business of making money)
2. Propaganda purposes (they are all owned by 3 giant companies that have pretty much the same agenda)
The Watson stuff fits into the first category. I mean, why even make it about Watson at all? If ESPN and fans want to say it's the "worst deal in history", take it up with the ownership/management of the browns organization. Anyone in Watsons position would've happily signed the dotted line to be set for life and if you didn't you are an idiot.
The Browns fans and media were both saying 2 weeks ago that Watson was faking his injuries and didn't wanna tough it out. Well now look at what has happened and rushing back to early may have been the straw the broke the camels back as far as his shoulder goes . But I still believe DW4 has it in him to make a comeback
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100% accuracy in your synopsis & aptly described MOP****
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
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ESPN/NFL just can't help themselves can they, i posted about this 4 days ago and they keep proving me right. they now have another front page article on Watson "wondering" if it could be the worst trade ever (browns picks for Watson)
Lets stick with the cold hard facts Watson has played in 12 games for the Browns after being suspended for 2 years for not committing a crime. in those 12 games he is 8-4, including leading the team back from a big deficit in a huge game on the road with division leading baltimore with a broken shoulder and high ankle sprain.
I noticed they are trying to sort piggyback off of Stroud having 2 good games in a row (they were 3-4 before that) to try to dig the knife into watson a bit deeper insinuating to the Browns you could have had all this. I have nothing against stroud but he hasnt finished the season either and he hasnt done anything watson didnt do in his first year starting with the texans.
Having said all of that how do you think the NFL would frame any other QB like Burrow or Mahomes, overcoming a huge deficit in a big game on the road then turns out they had a broken shoulder.
The NFL claims its bottom line is just win baby......ok then....watson has an equal record with mahomes in his last 12 games, a better record than Brock Purdy in his last 12 games, a better record than Joe Burrow in his last 12 games, a better record than Josh Allen in his last 12 games.........without one of his top OL and nick chubb for the last 2.........now lets here the excuses.
dude, Deshaun Watson lost a lot of foolish rich arrogant liberal people a lot of money ALOT. for years. sadly, he's paying for it through exposure of his private life. I really wonder how much money was lost the second renfrow crossed that plane for the Tigers. it's the best thought ever for a vindictive person as I
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I agree but you will not..
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get any support from the majority posters of tigernet.com. When he was the victm of an obvious cash grab flim-flam by an ambitious clan of hookers posing as Instagram models (w/ a focus on massage therapy specializing in happy endings), the programmed zombies here wanted him shot on site. Why? Because DW had allegedly requested a hand job from a hooker/massage therapist. To many of the brainless naive embeciles of tigernet, a hand job request is tantamount to being a serial rapist.
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I love Deshaun, but the criticism is warranted.
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Nov 16, 2023, 4:03 PM
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Given his historic contract, coupled with what the Browns gave up to get him, expectations are naturally going to be high. He hasn’t played very well in Cleveland, not to mention he’s injury prone.
As for bias against him, you can’t blame people for not pulling for a guy who has been accused of the stuff he has.
I’m pulling for him, as I have fine memories of him at Clemson, but it seems that he’s a different guy now.
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Your honor, thank you for your...
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honesty in sharing your disgusting, misguided, ill-informed take on DW's current situation. Your honesty and a simple algorithm made it possible to confirm with 100% accuracy that you are a 'transformer'–
(neither autobot or decepticon)
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Re: I love Deshaun, but the criticism is warranted.
Nov 16, 2023, 7:34 PM
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Is that supposed to be a gotcha? Most people are more comfortable saying 1 person is lying than 20+ people are lying.
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Re: I love Deshaun, but the criticism is warranted.***
Nov 17, 2023, 2:50 AM
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
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This more than just an article about a bad contract.
The NFL and affiliates have been determined to smear Deshaun since he criticized Houston management and told them to shove their money, he was out of there.
You think it was a coincidence that at that time 24 massage therapists, probably the only massage therapists in the world that didn't know how to handle someone making a pass at them, and also the only sorority that didn't let each other know when they ran into a bad news customer, decided that Deshaun was an abuser and sued him?
The NFL wouldn't conspire in that?
Come on.
Look at the suspensions.
Look what they did to Colin Kaepernick for just kneeling down.
This all goes back to Houston.
I hope they never win another game.
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
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So they smeared him and then gave him a $230 million fully guaranteed contract?
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Nov 16, 2023, 4:39 PM
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The Browns weren't the only team that wanted to sign him, either.
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
Nov 16, 2023, 4:41 PM
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Lol it's not bias against Watson. He's been absolutely awful as a Brown. Bottom 5 QB when he plays which is infrequent because he can't stay healthy. It was a bad trade and a worse contract.
Couple it with him being a PR nightmare and you have a strong contender for worst trade and the clubhouse leader for worst contract.
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To be fair, it is one of the worst trades ever, they have paid him $90 million
Nov 16, 2023, 6:54 PM
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and have 12 starts to show for it...His cap hit the next three years is over $60 million a year...keep that in mind when people start whining about his lack of help in the future
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
Nov 16, 2023, 7:10 PM
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DW ruined his career by acting like he was GM of the Texans and making demands on personnel-then while sting out went to non stop happy endings. Now with injury he’s not coming back after 3 seasons out and regaining his old form. Shame he became such an idiot
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
Nov 16, 2023, 9:27 PM
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The kind of money they are paying Watson should have been reserved for buying a SuperBowl ring. Haslem would have overpaid if Watson was a top QB. The reality is Haslem knew Watson would miss time last year and now he is missing half a season this year due to injury. Barring a SuperBowl win in the first 3 years, this was always going to be a great deal for Watson and a terrible deal for the Browns.
Don’t shed any tears for DE4 though. He has so much guaranteed money, he really never has to pay again.
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This may be a serious discussion when DWs career is over.
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Premature now. I doubt that even Deshaun can miss most of 3 nfl seasons and return to his early numbers. But I would also never discount the orator of the classic and prescient line, “Let’s go be legendary.”
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Re: More ESPN/ NFL bias against Watson
Nov 17, 2023, 5:43 AM
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Was he convicted of a crime? Also, so far he has been a bust. I think he will be great next year though.
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Um, 230 mil.
Nov 17, 2023, 10:40 AM
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for a guy spiraling in many ways. Bust. Cleveland's gonna' cleve'.
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