Is Garrett Riley living off of TCU Sonny Dykes' & Brother's fame?
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Is Garrett Riley living off of TCU Sonny Dykes' & Brother's fame?
Sep 4, 2024, 5:42 PM
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Saying, he seems so timid, quiet & emotionless while his O package for Cade & Team has been disappointing what with 5 losses now.
And, I wonder if his passive demeanor on the sideline is indicative of a coach who is limited from installing his O plan, or scheme, or best starters 100% and thus he is quiet and holding it in just to fit in with the Boss.
Saying, even though he's great young man in every way you'd want and we seemed to be fortunate to hire him..Will he get the job done for & at Clemson?
I suspect by end of 2025 season we will know and hopefully current & new players will help him succeed as he and they want & deserve.
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Re: Is Garrett Riley living off of TCU Sonny Dykes' & Brother's fame?
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Sep 4, 2024, 5:59 PM
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Our receivers are covered on every play. I think we're very predictable. We look like Florida. If we don't have far superior talent the other team is a problem for us.
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Re: Is Garrett Riley living off of TCU Sonny Dykes' & Brother's fame?
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Sep 4, 2024, 6:13 PM
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We should know by the end of this year. IMO either he will have success or be gone. I don't see him sticking around if we slip this year.
A quick google search and you can see his coaching history. He has been coaching since 2011, has only stayed 3 years at 2 places and he is on an upward trajectory, likely looking to be a HC someday.
No way he sticks around to hurt his resume if the offense doesn't improve.
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Sep 4, 2024, 8:08 PM
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We should know by the end of this year. IMO either he will have success or be gone. I don't see him sticking around if we slip this year.
A quick google search and you can see his coaching history. He has been coaching since 2011, has only stayed 3 years at 2 places and he is on an upward trajectory, likely looking to be a HC someday.
No way he sticks around to hurt his resume if the offense doesn't improve.
You don't think his resume has already taken a huge hit?
I think it has.
To leave for an HC job means you are likely headed to a dumpster fire you have to extinguish. Has he done enough at Clemson "to date" to say, "this coordinator is worthy of being over all of it"?
This is his 1st chance to be the primary orchestrator of the offense and the results so far suggest "he is not ready"!
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Re: Is Garrett Riley living off of TCU Sonny Dykes' & Brother's fame?
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Sep 4, 2024, 9:58 PM
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Not trying to be funny, but I’m sure he will just blame it all on Dabo. Most people here do anyway.
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Re: Is Garrett Riley living off of TCU Sonny Dykes' & Brother's fame?
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Sep 5, 2024, 7:17 AM
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I definitely think it has taken a bit of a hit, but he still has an opportunity to turn it around and produce a successful offense. If he does, then his reputation will be restored and improved.
If he doesn't, then I don't see him being a HC at his next stop, but he still has an opportunity to move to a good/decent program if an OC position comes open.
If he has 3+ years of a declining offense, then his career is in real trouble IMO.
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I think so! Show me what he has done in College Football "W/O Sonny Dykes"!
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Sep 4, 2024, 6:17 PM
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WR Coach for his bro. SMU with Dykes for 2 seasons putting up big numbers. 1 year at TCU with Dykes.
I mean, what besides the 3 years where he was running Sonny Dykes constructed offense and his last name being Riley has he done in CFB?
Being the brother of Lincoln has paid a huge dividend$$$$$ for him.
Coaching under Dykes has paid huge dividend$$$$$$$$$.
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By the same token, how has Sonny Dykes done without Garrett Riley?***
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Sep 4, 2024, 11:45 PM
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Re: By the same token, how has Sonny Dykes done without Garrett Riley?***
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Sep 5, 2024, 7:45 AM
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Sonny Dykes has Chad Morris offense tattooed on his A**...he just happened to have a great QB, a great RB and a host of competent WRs...where are they now?...with the RB injured they were 2nd tier! He was living the life of Riley!
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Re: Is Garrett Riley living off of TCU Sonny Dykes' & Brother's fame?
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Sep 4, 2024, 6:19 PM
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Sadly, it’s becoming more apparent by the game. We got snookered.
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The offense was sputtering for long stretches of any game even during TL/Etienne
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Sep 4, 2024, 6:51 PM
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days starting 2019. I think Dabo dictates/interferes too much with the offense. Riley's offense didn't look anything like this in TCU. Didn't Kirby Smart say that this is Clemson/Dabo offense? Even Dabo admitted as much in one of his interviews a while ago.
It doesn't matter who we hire. Unless the OC can do his job without the HC interfering on scheme, personnel and play-calling, the offense will be stuck like this. Even if we go the portal route, as long as we operate like this in offense, we won't score much against legit competition where we can't out athlete the other team.
Dabo brought in Chad Morris and gave him full control when his job was in jeopardy after the Napier fiasco. He needs to do that again. But with his complete control over everything Clemson now, not sure he will admit his mistake on offense and correct it.
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Agree completely. Everyone focuses on post-TL
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Sep 4, 2024, 7:03 PM
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But I had the same issues with Elliott’s offenses being vanilla and overly predictable, along with limited ability for adjustments and completely random play calling that never truly maximized what opposing defenses were giving us.
People thought those observations were nuts because we had the horses then to cover the flaws well.
No, this issue began the minute Jeff Scott left.
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Yep! these are not new issues. We just don't have the horses to hide these
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Sep 4, 2024, 7:07 PM
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offensive scheme/play calling flaws. Going to portal is not going to fix any of these.
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I cant understand your question, in plain English, you ask
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Sep 4, 2024, 6:59 PM
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“Was Garrett Riley getting underserved credit for being competent?
He seems quite unbothered by his own Offense’s lack of success.
And maybe he is quiet because he’s demoralized by Dabo not letting him install his real offense?
He seems great and a real catch for the program! Or is he?
After two more seasons I think we will know!”
I’m not sure what you are asking. It’s a lot of contradictory stream of consciousness brainstorming.
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Re: I cant understand your question, in plain English, you ask
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Sep 4, 2024, 10:03 PM
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I think was brought in to
A) Run Dabo’s offense B) Fix Cade C) Evaluate and recruit next QBs
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Re: Is Garrett Riley living off of TCU Sonny Dykes' & Brother's fame?
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Sep 4, 2024, 8:32 PM
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He living off of something and it d@mn sure isn't his ability to develop a QB or put together an explosive offense. In 2 games against UGA his offense has looked terrible. I think he belongs on the FBI's 10 most wanted for stealing money as an OC and QB coach.
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Re: Is Garrett Riley living off of TCU Sonny Dykes' & Brother's fame?
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Sep 4, 2024, 8:34 PM
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So you are looking for more vigor and gusto LbB?
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Sep 4, 2024, 9:17 PM
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With no proof as to the contrary that might be a great explanation....the only thing offensive is his lack of innovation in play calling!
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Re: Is Garrett Riley living off of TCU Sonny Dykes' & Brother's fame?
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Sep 4, 2024, 9:28 PM
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I do believe the year at TCU put him on the map but being Lincoln’s brother made him a home run hire or so me thought.
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Sep 4, 2024, 9:42 PM
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If he has any aspirations of being a head coach one day he better get his head out of his @ss and get busy with this offense
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Re: Is Garrett Riley living off of TCU Sonny Dykes' & Brother's fame?
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Sep 4, 2024, 9:49 PM
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Don’t know if we can really tell at this point. We have missed on our quarterbacks and wide receivers, all of whom are mid-level power five talent at best. I will give Riley a break in that he just doesn’t have the talent to compete against the Georgia defense. The rest of our schedule however, he should be able to coach this group into Some big victories. Certainly no excuse for a moribund offense, unable to move the ball against the rest of our competition this year.
If Riley provides us with good offensive coaching, we should win big many Saturdays. If the coaching is poor, we will struggle.
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Re: Is Garrett Riley living off of TCU Sonny Dykes' & Brother's fame?
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Sep 4, 2024, 9:53 PM
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Yes
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Sep 4, 2024, 11:43 PM
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That’s a good question. Is he as good as the football world clamored, or is he riding the lightning bolt of his name and 1 great season at TCU? I’m going with the camp that everyone can’t be wrong, and hope he shines very soon
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