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What's Haley's next move when she withdraws?
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Mar 5, 2024, 9:41 AM
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Does she endorse Trump?
Does she not endorse any candidate?
I don't see a 3rd party candidacy. She seems to have been in it as much for the GOP as she was for the country.
I expect her to endorse Trump, but reluctantly, only as the only real alternative to Biden. I do not see her standing behind him on a podium like Tim Scott did. Trump won't give her anything but a hard time. She'll shift to planning for 2028 and a run then, so she won't want to offend and turn-off all the current Trump supporters, which, I think has hurt her campaign. Had she gone after Trump more, she might have done better, but she also would be risking losing those votes in the next cycle.
Personally, I'd have more respect for her if she just withdrew and didn't endorse anyone. But I don't see that happening, just for political and future planning reasons.
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That subject would be funnier if you replaced Haley with Michelle.***
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Mar 5, 2024, 9:43 AM
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Re: What's Haley's next move when she withdraws?
Mar 5, 2024, 9:47 AM
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I dunno, I mean will there be a Trump Jr running next cycle if he wins? (Assuming he doesn't turn the country into a dicatorship which some people fear ) What would the downside be? Shunning by the RNC leadership if she doesn't endorse?
Unless a new Trumpite comes into the picture, won't she have a pretty good base initially compared to others? I can't see Vivek as legitimate. Who else? Scott if he takes the VP spot?
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DeSantis is baby Trump just more of a whiny little beotch.
Mar 5, 2024, 10:22 AM
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Maybe at some point a legitimate 3rd party will emerge or a significant number of politicians will run as independents. The existing party platforms and influencers are not only extreme but often delusional based on facts, statistics science etc. Even when a party’s platform is directionally correct, their tactics are often misguided.
But hey, IMO it’s been this way for over 20 years.
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Suspends campaign
Mar 5, 2024, 10:26 AM
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until orange Jesus goes to jail? I dunno.
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She's trying to change the Republican Party. She's not pulling out soon.
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Mar 5, 2024, 11:13 AM
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She will continue to give Republicans a choice other than Trump in the primaries, which a sizeable portion of the party craves.
She is setting up a run for 2028. In order to pull that off, she needs Trump to lose and lose badly and pull the rest of the party down with him in 2024, which seems likely. He lost the popular vote in 2016 and 2020 and, given the large chunk of Haley voters who are unlikely to vote for Trump in November, it appears he will lose even worse this time around. If she endorses Trump, she loses her ability to say I warned you this would happen. Running as a third party candidate makes it virtually impossible to win the presidency, and would kill her chances with the GOP in 2028.
Nikki will make a great GOP candidate in 2028, if she can move the Republican party away from the MAGA far right populism and return it to a more moderate party of actual conservatives.
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Re: She's trying to change the Republican Party. She's not pulling out soon.
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Mar 5, 2024, 12:16 PM
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Yeah, think again. Go check out what all the polls say. Trump is leading every battleground state he lost last year, including Nevada. https://youtu.be/fx2tcX9xzaQ?si=SApv5BpzDxADl1VU
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It's 8 months until the election and most people aren't tuned in yet.
Mar 5, 2024, 1:20 PM
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Trump's got a lot on his plate between now and then.
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Democrat party is her best future, but this wont be easy switch for her
Mar 5, 2024, 11:49 AM
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Nikki is in a tricky place moving forward.
Her value as a member of the board of directors at a company that derives a big hunk of its money via government contracts has fallen considerably; that career option may disappear altogether if she chooses to walk away from the Republican (aka Trump) party.
Does she turn to the Democrat party and attempt to position herself as a moderate Democrat? Her interests in removing the anonymity shield for people that want to exercise their 1st Amendment rights is consistent with today’s Democrat party. Her repeated references to the value of diversity (vote for women) is consistent with the long embraced Democrat political strategy of identity politics. Her advocacy for USA involvement in every foreign war that pops up is also consistent with today’s ‘moderate’ Democrat party of recent years.
On the other side of the coin, her somewhat amorphous position on abortion (I agree with Nikki that states would be stupid to make abortion illegal, and that each individual state has the Constitutional right to make its decision regarding abortion legality) would not comport with a fundamental pillar of the Democrat party. Neither would her position on 2nd Amendment rights. (*). For Nikki to make the outright switch to the Democrat party, she’d have to prove that she would be ‘morally flexible’ in order to restart her political career as a Democrat.
(?). Would she make this switch (which entails her abandonment of 2nd Amendment -&- States rights re abortion policy)? I think that she’d make the change.
Electability: Given the Animal House / Delta Fraternity-esque roster of potential candidates in the Democrat party, Nikki would represent a huge upgrade. She possesses two valuable identity politics attributes; to my understanding there were no big embarrassments during her time as SC governor; and the Big Money donors love her. I believe that Nikki would be a very formidable candidate in the next Democrat primary … but she absolutely MUST disavow her currently stated positions on 2nd Amendment & Abortions.
Non-political option: If she chooses to be politically adrift, then what will she do for a living? Utilize her Clemson education to become a corporate accountant? Accountancy is, of course, a good profession that pays a solid middle class wage. I just don’t see her going that direction.
PREDICTION: Nikki drops out after Super Tuesday (unless big Democrat donors like Reid Hoffman and Zuckerberg decide to fund her campaign a little longer), and she doesn’t endorse Trump immediately. Depending upon how her discussions with Hoffman, Zuckerberg, etc. go, she will either endorse Trump (if Hoffman Zuck say ‘no mas’) -or- remain quiet (if Hoffman, Zuck, etc agree to cough up some more money) -or- say ‘never Trump’ if Hoffman, Zuck, etc give her the ‘All In with Nikki’ vote.
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You know she resigned from the Boeing BOD in 2020...
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Mar 5, 2024, 1:55 PM
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after they got a bailout...right?
As far as her being a democrat, that is laughable. She doesn't hold one single policy issue in common with that party. This attempt to characterize her as stupid, open-borders, war-monger, and RINO is so idiotic and so so telling in the lemmings that repeat what they're told with no ability or will to think for themselves.
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Re: What's Haley's next move when she withdraws?
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Mar 5, 2024, 12:10 PM
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I don't think it matter what she does. Other than her fan club on here nobody else semes to care what she thinks. Most of her votes have been from Democrats who would never vote for her in the general so she's as irrelevant as ever at the moment.
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yep - agree with all of that...***
Mar 5, 2024, 12:20 PM
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Re: What's Haley's next move when she withdraws?
Mar 5, 2024, 12:30 PM
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Haley will endorse Trump and get in line. It's what everybody that attempts to keep political aspirations has done. We've seen multiple times that Haley will flip-flop to try to stay relevant.
Hopefully she's not as weird about it as Tim Scott.
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