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Kamala would have fixed this.

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Nov 17, 2024, 8:49 AM
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https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1857871863172485487

=D

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Trump ran up a pile of debt in his first term....


Nov 17, 2024, 8:57 AM
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He was up to a trillion dollar annual deficit even prior to the pandemic. And his promises in the 2nd term are looking to run up even more, far more than anything Kamala was promising.

Please stop pretending you're fiscal conservatives. Of all the hoaxes out there, this is one of the biggest.

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Re: Trump ran up a pile of debt in his first term....

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Nov 17, 2024, 9:10 AM
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Moar TDS***

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Nov 17, 2024, 9:10 AM [ in reply to Trump ran up a pile of debt in his first term.... ]
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I'm for an Article 5 convention

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Nov 17, 2024, 9:20 AM [ in reply to Trump ran up a pile of debt in his first term.... ]
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to require term limits and a balanced budget amendment.

You?

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Re: Trump ran up a pile of debt in his first term....

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Nov 17, 2024, 9:26 AM [ in reply to Trump ran up a pile of debt in his first term.... ]
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One would think all the supposedly reasonable Trump hating Republicans on here would be thrilled that perhaps, for the first time in decades, someone may take a serious look at govt spending and eliminate wasteful, ineffective or redundant departments thus saving money and having a positive impact on the deficit. However these clowns, who claim to the true conservatives among us, appear to absolutely loathe the very idea of any of thar happening. So it appears all these true conservatives who are always whining about budget deficits would only want them addressed via higher taxes, and I think there's nothing true conservatives love more than higher taxes. These morons pretending to be anything other than trolls or left wing trash need to do better.

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Where did I say I was a conservative?....


Nov 17, 2024, 9:33 AM
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I've never said that on this board.

I'm talking about fake conservatives in MAGA-world. The entire movement that calls itself "conservative" is built on a pack of lies, probably including you.

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Yes, let's eliminate redundant departments by creating a new department

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Nov 17, 2024, 9:44 AM [ in reply to Re: Trump ran up a pile of debt in his first term.... ]
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and put not one, but TWO people in charge of it. Adios, redundancy!

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You are blinded by your hate


Nov 17, 2024, 10:49 AM
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Let me help you

One is a business person and doesn’t know government.

One knows government and not business.

There. That should help you.

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I'm curious which you think is the "knows government and not business"


Nov 17, 2024, 2:42 PM
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Since neither have experience in Government.

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GOOD! "Experience in Government" grifting is the omnipresent problem.


Nov 18, 2024, 7:45 AM
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Time to trim the bureaucratic BS.

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Why would you expect him to cut any spending?


Nov 17, 2024, 4:16 PM [ in reply to Re: Trump ran up a pile of debt in his first term.... ]
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He had 4 years to do it, and failed. No reason to expect anything different this time.

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You know who can fix this?

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Nov 17, 2024, 9:19 AM
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A FOX News host with sexual assault charges, that's who.

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Re: You know who can fix this?

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Mar 31, 2016, 6:50 PM
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19B® said:

A FOX News host sexual assault charges, that's who.




"The city of Monterey said in a statement Thursday that its police department investigated a sexual assault allegation against Hegseth, with no charges filed."

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2024-11-16/defense-nominee-hegseth-sexual-assault-15871345.html

Let's be completely accurate - Hegseth was never charged with sexual assault OR any other crime. An allegation is not the same as "charged" nor is an allegation proof of any crime.

But I'm sure that won't matter to some because Hegseth is the next target by those who are absolutely committed to maintaining the status quo of the DC swamp. As for me - I think I'll just use the Democrat's own Bill Clinton standard for sexual impropriety as a dis-creditor/disqualifier for Government service which is to say - I don't care about this whole thing short of an actual criminal charge, a jury trial, and a guilty verdict.

But let's look beyond the kabuki theater... Tell me - have you even bothered to read any of what Hegseth has actually written (not out of context snippets from biased reporting) in regards to his thoughts/policy ideas regarding the DoD? He wrote a whole book on it and did a recent 2+ hour interview with Shawn Ryan discussing the issues he sees with the DoD. If you have substantive policy differences then that is worthy of discussion and disagreement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoN5ovwB8s4

Meh...who am I kidding - some on here won't bother because they've already bought into the Hegseth is a simpleton/sexual predator narratives being spun by the same folks who lied about Biden's cognitive decline (until that lie was no longer tenable), spent years propping up an anonymously sourced false Russian collusion narrative, intentionally silenced the Hunter laptop story by falsely attributing it to "Russian disinformation", and that Kamala Harris was a cultural phenomenon of joy...

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Matt Gaetz wasn't charged with a crime.


Nov 17, 2024, 12:18 PM
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What are your thoughts on him? You put a lot more effort into your positions than automatons like Rangers and Keowee.

Hegseth has defended war criminals, and was instrumental in Trump pardoning Maj. Mathew Golsteyn and 1st Lt. Clint Lorance, accused of directly executing or ordering men to execute Afghanis. Hegseth is also a proponent of torture. Is this what you would consider "de-sissifying" the DoD/military, out of curiosity?

Also...why pay somebody off if you're innocent?

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I don't like Matt Gaetz and hope his nomination gets crushed.

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Nov 17, 2024, 4:11 PM
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Gaetz and Adam Schiff have the most punchable faces in Congress and are practically opposite sides of the same "look at me/all about me" coin. I detest both of them.

As I stated in one of my previous posts on Gaetz: "In a political world filled with selfish, self-serving azzholes - Gaetz has distinguished himself as an especially unlikeable turd. He was willing to shid on all the other Republicans in the House in order to settle a personal vendetta. Screw that guy - I'm glad he's going to be out of the House and probably won't be confirmed."

Regarding Hegseth.... I've not finished his book so I'm still making my way through it. However, based on what I have read and listened to in his more in depth discussions of the military (not 2 minute soundbites) - I'm largely in agreement with his take. His experiences that have formed his opinions very much mirror my own. Most of what Hegseth is saying speaks to the very same things I have witnessed in the military and hear from other vets to include some friends of mine still on active duty.

Hegseth speaks from a troop level that is too often silenced by the military public relations political caste (the Pentagon's Military and Civilian leaders) who are more interested in pleasing their political master's ideological agendas in the furtherance of their own careers. At the troop level a focus on what sounds nice in a public speech like "diversity is our strength" is quickly found to be irrelevant on the battlefield and the Pentagon forced focus on this tripe has gotten in the way of the things that actually do matter on the battlefield like physical ability, competence, skill and warrior ethos.

I would reference you to Hegseth's interview with Shawn Ryan where he and Ryan discuss these "war crimes" cases. The facts of these cases are not necessarily as one sided as has been presented to the public through the Pentagon's controlled mouthpieces. As a double combat vet myself I will just say this... There were routine moral dilemmas that resulted in things that your grandfather's did in WWII that were borne from battlefield necessity. Had some of today's political flag officers been around in our grandfather's time, they would have branded many of our grandfathers "war criminals" for some of their actions. War puts trigger pullers in some very bad situations where the moral choice has a bad outcome no matter the action taken. Don't get me wrong I most definitely believe in war crimes - the Russian military is notorious for it where they institutionalize rape and theft.

Regarding the paying to go away issue... IMO, paying an accusation to "go away" or sign an NDA is not always the equivalent of an admission of guilt. Put yourself in Hegseth's shoes... His position as a conservative paid broadcast commentator could be put in jeopardy from just a public accusation of sexual assault and the inevitable circus that would surround such a thing from most of the non-conservative media looking to get his scalp. We like to think that merely claiming ones innocence to such an accusation would be enough to keep their reputation/employment intact but we know all too well that this is not the case in our modern world where the media routinely turns an accusation into a guilty verdict.

So in Hegseth's case (where he contends his innocence) even if there is no proof that a sexual assault happened or that an investigation was conducted where he was not charged with wrongdoing - there was still a significant risk that his employer would find it easier to fire him instead of dealing with the inevitable outrage and negative publicity that always accompany these things. That being the case, I don't think it is unusual for some public figures to simply pay for NDA's to make these issues go away even when the accused is innocent and has not committed a crime.

Is it right to me pay for an accusers silence - even for an accusation I know to be not true?? I don't know - I've never been in that situation. But I would not necessarily make a connection between paying for an NDA as being an admission of guilt.

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He was deemed an "extremist" by the Army and men in his own unit

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Nov 17, 2024, 2:51 PM [ in reply to Re: You know who can fix this? ]
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and "left" the Army. Those are his own words. You can't deny there are a million other better choices than Hegseth which should make you question why Trump chose the self-proclaimed, "extremist".

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I've got to tell you - just because people are in the military doesn't mean they

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Nov 17, 2024, 4:23 PM
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won't make up bullshid or complaints against other military people for all kinds of reasons. Hegseth was already a commentator on FoxNews by this point - do you think it is possible that some of the troops didn't like Hegseth because he was a conservative commentator and made the complaint?

By the way - no military investigation was conducted on Hegseth as being an "extremist". If this was a serious accusation an investigation WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. I know - I rooted out a KKK nutcase back in 1995 when I was stationed in Germany. So why no investigation?? Because such an investigation by CID would have inevitably borne out that his tattoos (which was the basis for the complaint) are not white extremist and that the complaint was based on BS.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/3232267/pete-hegseth-tattoo-controversy-centuries-old-christian-symbol/

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Time out, you're in/were in the military and think that Hegseth


Nov 17, 2024, 5:41 PM [ in reply to Re: You know who can fix this? ]
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is a good candidate? Please tell me how a major in the Army who has stated women shouldn't be in combat roles is a good candidate. Even my old man, a retired captain in the Navy and who voted for the shitbag elect thinks he's a grossly unqualified and terrible pick.

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Once again - have you listened to Hegseth's complete take on women in combat??

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Nov 17, 2024, 7:34 PM
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It's not the blanket "he doesn't want women in combat" that most are clutching their pearls over. His take is much more nuanced than the drive-by medias outrage and I happen to agree with Hegseth's take. Hegseth disagrees with women being in certain units - namely Infantry units from Battalion and below and Spec Ops units. Women can still serve in combat zones but do so in branches and combat units that are in general/direct support to these "tip of the spear" formations. Women would still be in combat but they wouldn't be the "door kickers" and in the fighting units moving to contact. Hegseth has said he has no issues with women flying (helicopter, fighter jets etc...) or other combat jobs that they are physically capable of doing in large numbers without lowering the standards.

There are just certain battlefield realities with serving in these kinds of units (Infantry and Spec Ops) that most people truly don't understand. It's just a fact that there are physiological differences between male and female where a female is greatly disadvantaged to physically perform the required tasks of these units. Everything from the sheer weight of the packs they have to carry to the speed at which they must move to upper body strength to lift and hold objects and soldiers over their shoulders. Furthermore for these units - there is no such thing as privacy in combat. It simply would be impossible to have any kinds of separate "accommodation" for the differences between boys and girls. People who have spent time in the grunt units in combat understand this - it ain't Politically Correct but it is the truth.

Now - I'm not going to pretend that there aren't some females out there that couldn't genuinely ruck and fight just as well as any other "grunt". But it's just a fact that the numbers of females that can will be exceedingly low compared to the male population. At some point we have to ask - how do we get the most lethality for our defense bucks and what is the cost to lethality by catering to getting women in these maneuver units? Sadly the only branch that looked at the performance was the Marines - the others services were more interested in finding whatever new "standard" they could institute that would allow women in these direct combat units. What the Marines found was not good but of course - this was all summarily ignored in favor of achieving some social equality agenda...

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2015/09/10/mixed-gender-teams-come-up-short-in-marines-infantry-experiment/

Thanks to your father for his service. I'm a retired Army Colonel (Navy Captain equivalent). I was 27 years active duty Army. I commanded everything from a Platoon (all male unit) to a Battalion (men and women) and did lots of deployments including 2 combat tours. I served in everything from Infantry units to Infantry Division HQs to the Strategic Combatant Commands (USSOUTHCOM and USSTRATCOM). I've lived at all levels from the foxhole to the high tech Operations Centers to walking the halls of the Pentagon. I do have a healthy respect for women in the service - my older sister was one of them in the Navy. Some of the women I worked with were among the most amazing leaders I have ever seen. However, the realities of combat at the troop level are unforgiving and do not care about political correctness and social experiments. Lethality and violence of action is what matters - Pete Hegseth understands this and that is why I agree with most of his positions I have heard/read to date.

Qualifications.... I don't know if Hegseth is qualified from a strategic vision perspective with an ability to take on the Pentagon behemoth (my biggest concern). But I have also learned that in the Corporate Media and DC world "qualifications" is code for DC insider who will go along with the status quo. The status quo kinds of leadership is killing our military and we need real change and not the typical do nothing "DC change" we hear from insiders and politicos.

I do know that our credentialed elitist class - the so called "qualified" people have failed us more times than I can count. I include Rumsfeld, Carter, and especially the current SECDEF - Austin among them (and I knew Austin when he was a Brigade Commander in the 82nd). At this point - I really don't think Hegseth could do much worse than what has been going on. But I do see he has one thing going for him that I've not seen in any of his predecessors - he is a true Pentagon outsider that has a perfect vision of the troop level issues. Hegseth is not a pawn of the Military Industrial Complex system nor is he part of the insider Pentagon club of which both types are incapable of course correcting the current shape of our military. To be sure - we might lose a war if our Strategic position is wobbly but we are guaranteed to lose a war if the troop level is messed up and remains where it is right now.

So I say - put Hegseth through the confirmation process and see how he handles it. But focus it on his policy ideas and abilities not this sideshow BS of tattoos and unproven misconduct accusations. He certainly can't be any worse than Chuck Hagel was during his confirmation hearing...

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Re: Once again - have you listened to Hegseth's complete take on women in combat??


Nov 17, 2024, 8:45 PM
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Well that's a pretty discredit to both my wife and one of her friends, who she did serve on a SpecOps unit. FTPs, counterinsurgency, and FEPs were pretty critical in Afghanistan, and you're saying women cannot do it, so I guess I understand why you're okay with Hegseth on that.

I am well aware of the battlefield realities, and thanks to my unique perspective from multiple female officers in our military, they aren't "clutching their pearls".

SECDEF should be a top brass position, this is a bad appointment.

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If you feel I'm discrediting anyone's service then you completely missed

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Nov 17, 2024, 10:36 PM
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the point that is being made. Your wife and her friends service is to be honored and respected. They provided a critical function to the SOF teams operating in Afghanistan that only a female could fulfill. I agree - the CSTs (Cultural Sensitivity Teams) were critical to our ability to successfully interact with the Afghan women and children based on the cultural sensitivities of Afghan society. But being a CST augmentee to a standard SOF team is NOT the same as being an fully trained SOF operator and decidedly NOT what is being discussed here in regards to "women in combat".

Having a woman fill a very specific support role - even for a front line unit - because the mission set requires an actual female to culturally interact with other native females is decidedly NOT the same as saying women should be machine gunners, mortar men, and riflemen in an Infantry platoon. Those two comparisons are nowhere in the same ballpark and that is the "nuance" of the "no women in combat" that some are ignoring or don't understand.

If you have served in combat, been shot at while living out of a rucksack and bathing from a canteen cup for months on end - then perhaps you can rightfully claim to understand battlefield realities. Hearing people close to you talk about combat may give you a certain perspective but is far from truly understanding battlefield realities.

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You are giving Hegseth far more credit than what you're writing here.


Nov 17, 2024, 11:43 PM
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"I’m straight up just saying that we should not have women in combat roles," Hegseth said on the "Shawn Ryan Show" podcast.

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Re: You are giving Hegseth far more credit than what you're writing here.

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Nov 18, 2024, 9:04 AM
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I don’t think women should be fighting on the front lines. I’m not sure what all combat roles there are. Men are bigger, stronger, and faster than women. That’s who needs to be on the frontlines.

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Re: You are giving Hegseth far more credit than what you're writing here.


Nov 18, 2024, 9:15 AM [ in reply to You are giving Hegseth far more credit than what you're writing here. ]
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Hegseth also said the standards had been lowered. They need to put the standards back to where they were and whoever can meet them, male or female, passes the test,

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Re: You are giving Hegseth far more credit than what you're writing here.


Nov 18, 2024, 9:15 AM [ in reply to You are giving Hegseth far more credit than what you're writing here. ]
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Hegseth also said the standards had been lowered. They need to put the standards back to where they were and whoever can meet them, male or female, passes the test,

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I think there's a bigger problem with Hegseth


Nov 18, 2024, 7:55 AM [ in reply to Time out, you're in/were in the military and think that Hegseth ]
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He encouraged Trump to release war criminals who had no business being released, and he supported the horrible torture failure at Gitmo.

Those are character issues that are far more concerning than his opinion on women in combat. It raises questions as to what kind of new atrocities he'll greenlight with our military.

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Re: Time out, you're in/were in the military and think that Hegseth

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Nov 18, 2024, 8:03 AM [ in reply to Time out, you're in/were in the military and think that Hegseth ]
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If you think women should be in every combat role, even if that means the standards to be in those roles must be dramatically reduced in order for them to do so, then you're the one holding a bizarrely out of touch with reality opinion, not this guy.

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Quiet, the adults are talking.


Nov 18, 2024, 8:08 AM
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What part of "even if that means the standards to be in those roles must be dramatically reduced in order for them to do so" is part of this discussion? Seriously your entire post is useless and irrelevant to the discussion here, don't let your inner misogyny show.

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Re: You know who can fix this?

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Nov 18, 2024, 7:45 AM [ in reply to Re: You know who can fix this? ]
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His rape allegation is similar to many that don’t get prosecuted. He got the married woman so drunk she couldn’t consent, but also couldn’t remember well enough for that particular DA to charge.

Yeah, you pieces of #### will stick up for the douchebags who do this every day.

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Go pound some more sand.***


Nov 18, 2024, 7:53 AM
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Oh did he strike a nerve for you?***


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Re: Oh did he strike a nerve for you?***


Nov 18, 2024, 8:05 AM
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Nah, he just loves him some rapists.

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Yall never learn. Nobody cares about your lies.***

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Back to the topic of the DoD failing 7 straight audits. For you business folks

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Nov 17, 2024, 6:10 PM
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What would happen if your business failed 7 straight IRS audits and couldn't account for 60% of your business funds?

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What would happen to a business that failed 7 straight SEC audits and couldn't account for 60% of their funds?

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Re: Back to the topic of the DoD failing 7 straight audits. For you business folks


Nov 18, 2024, 7:50 AM
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You claim to have been in the military, so you might know a little about government property audits. It’s not 60% of all property. It’s 60% of a sample.

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Decades worth... It is a perpetual grift. They just move the chairs around.***


Nov 18, 2024, 7:56 AM
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Re: Decades worth... It is a perpetual grift. They just move the chairs around.***


Nov 18, 2024, 8:04 AM
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It’s just a lot of money. More zeros than you are capable of counting.

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