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TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
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Covid? The only thing wrong with the portal is tampering. NIL could be improved by not allowing payments until one year after enrollment. Would help with tampering and also with high school recruits.
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
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Jun 20, 2023, 7:24 AM
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While I could see Covid having a small impact, the larger issue is tampering/nil promises. Let’s not sugar coat it
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
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Jun 20, 2023, 7:42 AM
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Y'all aren't wrong. It's pretty clear some schools/boosters are tampering with players before they're even in the portal. As far as Covid as an excuse...it's going to be a while before that word is not a convenient excuse for everything under the sun. I hear people making excuses for kids misbehaving and doing poorly academically at my school almost every day because "They were in Grade _____ during the Covid year." It's insane.
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
Jun 20, 2023, 2:06 PM
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But doesn't that seem to be the new age American way, before answering any question, you should first search to see if there is an excuse that can be used as the reason for the problem, bc it do seem that an excuse is the best way to deal with problems that they can't come up with a reasonable solution for....
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
Jun 20, 2023, 1:58 PM
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Exactly, and so it looks as if Baker is taking up where the last NCAA president left off without any answers that will fix anything. It's the same O BS as before on a different day. Another new NCAA president search should have began right before Baker took over!!!
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
Jun 20, 2023, 5:57 PM
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If you put a politician in this type of position you will surely get empty political doublespeak. Maybe they need an authoritarian to jump in there and implement solutions instead of weighing inequities.
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Re: So you are ok with suppressing income potential in a free
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Jun 20, 2023, 10:10 AM
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market?
There must be guard rails to protect the sport. All professional sports have things like tampering rules, a reverse order draft and salary caps to protect the competitive aspects of the game. College sports are no different in terms of a need to balance the wants/needs of the player with what is good from an overall standpoint for the sport. College sports have helped millions of people improve their overall life situation. Unfortunately, the current system is not sustainable and threating the existence of the system.
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Re: So you are ok with suppressing income potential in a free
Jun 20, 2023, 1:49 PM
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Can colleges terminate scholly agreements with players too if players can transfer out whenever they wish? Can conferences kick out schools who are failing to invest in their sports programs? Free market works both ways. Let’s let freedom ring! Contracts mean zero. Right?
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Re: So you are ok with suppressing income potential in a free
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Jun 20, 2023, 2:40 PM
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First of all, College is for a higher education after leaving HS. Sports came to HS and college long after either was ever introduced for a modern society, and it was added to give athletic individuals a chance to compete athletically, and that is exactly why sports were added to the grade school and college system. IMO, the very moment it started to become a way to pay students a salary, or any income, it should have been canceled in all academic facilities across our entire country. Grade school and college isn't the right place to give or help young people to follow their dreams to play a professional sport.
Above any and everything, grade school and college is meant to educate the minds of the young and old to ensure that our future society can thrive as high as an educated mind will allow us, and that is the only reason that the education system of grade schools, and colleges was introduced to our society. It was never meant for a rare few to be athletically trained for a professional sport career!!!
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They need to go back to the old format...
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Jun 20, 2023, 9:01 AM
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where EVERYONE has five years to play four. If you transfer, for whatever reason, you sit out one year before being eligible to play again PERIOD...END OF DISCUSSION. The "sit out" year counts against the five year maximum. It's simple and it's fair, and it would significantly reduce the incessant transferring.
That along with implementing some pretty strict rules around tampering, imposing some severe punishment for violations, and then actually enforcing it.
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Re: They need to go back to the old format...
Jun 20, 2023, 11:35 AM
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where EVERYONE has five years to play four. If you transfer, for whatever reason, you sit out one year before being eligible to play again PERIOD...END OF DISCUSSION. The "sit out" year counts against the five year maximum. It's simple and it's fair, and it would significantly reduce the incessant transferring.
That along with implementing some pretty strict rules around tampering, imposing some severe punishment for violations, and then actually enforcing it.
I think the old way needed some tweaking -- basically, the only folks not penalized for transferring or changing schools are non-athletes.
That said, I definitely think some kind of skin in the game for the athletes would be fair -- like burning the extra year opportunity (5th year) if you transfer before graduating would be a good start so if you transferred before graduating you've only got 3 years remaining, even if the prior year you qualified for a RS.
Everything else concerning tampering -- yes. If caught tampering there should be something like 5 scholarship reduction for each count or player roster limitation so instead of like 110-115 players (or whatever the total is nowadays), now you can only have 90 total players including practice squad/reserves.
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Re: They need to go back to the old format...
Jun 20, 2023, 6:02 PM
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You won’t ever get the schools on tampering. They turn it over to the NIL collectives who are free to function like the old boosters when that behavior was illegal. It’s all fair now so the NCAA is out of the loop. Cutting transfer portal freedom is the only way to rein in NIL.
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Re: They need to go back to the old format...
Jun 20, 2023, 2:44 PM
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Well yes that is the way that it should be if our society intends to keep training young people for the slightest chance to play a professional sport as a career!!! IMO, I think that it's past time that colleges remove professional athlete training out of the atmosphere of a college, and return to educating the minds of the people who want a college education!!!
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
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Jun 20, 2023, 7:22 AM
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
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Jun 20, 2023, 7:49 AM
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I would love to see an "actual investigative journalist" dig into the 54% of student athletes that entered the transfer portal and didn't end up with a home. Give some actual stories of what happened. Did they chase fool's gold in the NIL? Did they think too highly of their abilities?
I'm sure its a combination of those and possibly other scenarios. However, real stories with actual unbiased reporting would be an interesting read!
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Jun 20, 2023, 7:53 AM
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
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Jun 20, 2023, 8:02 AM
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The NCAA allowed "Pandora's Box" to be opened. This crap is here to stay.
Some would say, you can't put the genie back in the bottle.
There would be so many lawsuits, etc.
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
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Jun 20, 2023, 8:38 AM
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simple fix by the college presidents
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Jun 20, 2023, 8:42 AM
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and their BOTs in my opinion. Get them to agree to have graduation percentage tied to allowable players on a team. If you graduate 85% of players that join a team.... you only are only allowed 85% of the maximum players on that team. NIL is still intact for the player, but coaches will have to be very mindful of how many players join and don't get their degree. *
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I first propsed that idea sin the 1980s.
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Jun 20, 2023, 8:45 AM
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When an athlete signs a scholarship with a school that scholarship counts against the allotted number until one of two things happens.
1. The athlete graduates from your school. (If he transfers and graduates from another school, he still counts against your school's limit.)
2. Six years have passed from the date he signed with your school.
The NCAA could enact that rule tomorrow if they wanted to.
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Re: I first propsed that idea sin the 1980s.
Jun 20, 2023, 12:22 PM
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When an athlete signs a scholarship with a school that scholarship counts against the allotted number until one of two things happens.
1. The athlete graduates from your school. (If he transfers and graduates from another school, he still counts against your school's limit.)
2. Six years have passed from the date he signed with your school.
The NCAA could enact that rule tomorrow if they wanted to.
This isn't clicking for me, maybe I'm reading it wrong.
1. Why penalize the school if a kid transfers? Shouldn't the receiving school face some sort of hit since now in the age of NIL it can be safely assumed the kid is coming for some $$
2. Why 6 years? Players are given 5 years to play 4. Again, this penalizes schools and limits scholarship opportunities for high school players.
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Re: simple fix by the college presidents
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There should never be an NIL deal for a college student, educating the student should be the only choice if they want to play a sport. Deals of large amounts of money should not be in the education system for just a very small few, and it's crazy to think that it's OK to do so, Period!!!!
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This clown has a real grasp of the obvious!!!***
Jun 20, 2023, 8:54 AM
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
Jun 20, 2023, 9:00 AM
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Here we go. First day on the job...and we got blame it on Covid guy.
The NCAA is heading down a path where schools will drop athletic programs within the next 10 years.
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
Jun 20, 2023, 9:02 AM
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The NCAA needs to be reworked into a landfill.
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
Jun 20, 2023, 9:08 AM
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Any body language expert will tell ya........NEVER trust any white haired attorney who leans on the table and smiles when he talks to you. Something really bad is about to happen to you!
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
Jun 20, 2023, 9:36 AM
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Duh.
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
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Jun 20, 2023, 9:49 AM
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The key take away is that if the vast majority of athletes were good enough to have NIL deals, they would not need to look for a new school. What Dabo has said all along is that too many athletes lose their scholarships and don't find another school and that is exactly what Baker said.
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And water is wet and grass is green. He's not telling us
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Jun 20, 2023, 9:56 AM
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anything that we didn't already know.
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
Jun 20, 2023, 9:58 AM
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Well there are a lot that needs work if the NCAA was doing its job. There is a lot of tampering going on and underlying things happening in college sports that needs some type of control or regulation.
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And???***
Jun 20, 2023, 10:02 AM
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
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In other news, the National Institute for Science reports that………
- people breathe air
- chopping off your left leg makes it difficult to get an NBA contract
- drinking gasoline is not good you
- sleeping in an active volcano might make you warm
- and bureaucrats say stupid things that were 100% obvious to everyone else on the planet 2 years ago
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Where does he stand on the wetness of water?***
Jun 20, 2023, 11:04 AM
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Well he's getting warmer
Jun 20, 2023, 11:18 AM
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How about the entire NIL nonsense. It needs to be regulated.
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
Jun 20, 2023, 11:21 AM
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Nice work Captain Obvious. You're going to go far.
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We all know it needs to be fixed. He needs to fix it instead
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Jun 20, 2023, 11:48 AM
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of stating the obvious.
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Re: We all know it needs to be fixed. He needs to fix it instead
Jun 22, 2023, 10:35 AM
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He can't fix it. The NCAA cannot supercede state government, federal government, or the Supreme Court. Once any of those bodies take action (which has happened, hence the issues at hand), the NCAA is powerless to stop it.
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
Jun 20, 2023, 12:12 PM
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This guy is a moran. Obviously has no idea what he's talking about. Definitely someone who let's the inmates run the asylum. We need someone who can make hard decisions whether popular or not and stick to them regardless the backlash. The NCAA should have rules that are abided by and if you don't want to abide by them them don't go to college which is a luxury and NOT a right.
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Re: TNET: New NCAA President says the transfer portal needs work
Jun 20, 2023, 12:51 PM
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The SEC bias needs a lot of work and it comes from your outfit.
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You know what needs work? THE NCAA!***
Jun 20, 2023, 1:51 PM
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Covid not NIL is the root cause. got it.***
Jun 20, 2023, 2:25 PM
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Simple Solution...
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Jun 20, 2023, 3:32 PM
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If you want an education, go to college (free ride) and play the sport - no pay to play, that's Pro ball.
You want $$$, go directly to NFL, NBA, etc. No minimal college attendance required - If you are good enough, you will succeed, if you don't succeed, go back to step 1 and hope you get recruited.
No need for pre-pro in college athletics.
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Former politician. Doubt he'll do much but politic...
Jun 22, 2023, 9:42 AM
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...and pander to the legions of CFB fans who are tuning out since NIL came into existence.
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