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Top TigerNet [30319]
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I want every closet communist here ... please pay attention ...
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Apr 11, 2025, 9:41 AM
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This is what happens to your place as the world's #1 economic super power when you sell out your workforce for cheap labor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPUCA_2W3aA
PS - Has any juan had a good craft beer lately ?
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Rival Killer [2938]
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Do you believe that everyone that doesnt support Trump
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Apr 11, 2025, 9:43 AM
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And MAGA is a communist? Genuine question
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Heisman Winner [80967]
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Are you lost?***
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Apr 11, 2025, 9:43 AM
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Hall of Famer [8879]
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in more ways than one***
Apr 11, 2025, 9:50 AM
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Heisman Winner [80967]
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I'm never too concerned if people are lost in the
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Apr 11, 2025, 9:55 AM
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find Jesus kinda way. John Prine told me to let folks find Jesus on their own, so I do.
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Ring of Honor [21763]
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But you have to eat a lot of peaches? Now I want homemade peach ice cream!
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Apr 11, 2025, 9:58 AM
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D@mn you!
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TigerNet Champion [116607]
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He also said he was going to smoke a cigarette that was 9 miles long
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Apr 11, 2025, 9:58 AM
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when he gets to heaven. Do you think he has extinguished that one yet?
Also, anyone really drink vodka and ginger ale?
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Heisman Winner [80967]
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Probably still lit, but is is heaven so nobody else who doesn't
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Apr 11, 2025, 10:07 AM
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want to smell it has to, and I don't know. I guess I'd try it.
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Game Day Hero [4460]
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Would rather it be a J
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Apr 11, 2025, 10:46 AM
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Paw Warrior [4669]
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Re: I want every closet communist here ... please pay attention ...
Apr 11, 2025, 9:53 AM
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Felt like at Disney movie with background musac...riveting
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Re: I want every closet communist here ... please pay attention ...
Apr 11, 2025, 10:53 AM
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Yes!!! Took me back to my childhood walking around Liberty Square on way past Hall of Presidents to get to the Haunted Mansion!!!
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Genuine question here, and I am no economist, but what are the implications of
Apr 11, 2025, 9:58 AM
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not having the world's largest economy but still having a growing economy?
This is not meant to be a political post, I truly have no clue.
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Ring of Honor [23287]
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Re: I want every closet communist here ... please pay attention ...
Apr 11, 2025, 9:59 AM
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I am going to go out on a limb and say their enormous populations are a factor.
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Heisman Winner [80967]
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I'm going to say that maybe American's wouldn't have been
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Apr 11, 2025, 10:12 AM
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looking for cheap stuff if the numbers of dollars poor people have had grown at a similar rate as the number of dollars that the ultra rich have. Of if somehow one could still afford housing at the same % of their income as back in 1980.
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The two aren't mutually exclusive. In fact they're quite interdependent.***
Apr 11, 2025, 10:30 AM
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Heisman Winner [80967]
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I don't know exactly what you mean.
Apr 11, 2025, 10:37 AM
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But I get the idea you may be trying to convince me this isn't a poor man vs. rich man argument then I will continue to ask why you think you are closer to being a billionaire than a homeless.
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TigerNet Immortal [175321]
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It's a chicken vs egg argument.
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Apr 11, 2025, 10:46 AM
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Life wasn't all about buying cheap crap here in the US until the 90's. NAFTA did exactly what Ross Perot said, sending manufacturing job after manufacturing job in rural America south of the border. The normalization of trade relations with China only exacerbated the issue, sending more manufacturing there. So jobs that previously could support a family reasonably comfortably just dissolved and we became flooded with cheap merchandise because all people could afford was cheap merchandise. And the wealth gap increased because those who could afford to source the goods from overseas and south of the border and resell them made the money that the increasingly poorer people were spending for consumer goods.
If you really want to get in the weeds you can get into the wage depression for rural jobs caused by the influx of illegal immigration that filled jobs cheaply that ordinarily these folks could have done for higher wages absent the option of the cheap illegal labor.
You should know this already. Just drive down Hwy 5 between Rock Hill and Blacksburg and count the number of empty plants and warehouses that were busy and provided decent jobs just 30 years ago. You're saying people want only want cheap stuff because they became poor and I'm telling you that they became poor precisely because cheap stuff became available.
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Game Day Hero [4460]
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Hell, not just empty plants, but empty towns.
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Apr 11, 2025, 10:50 AM
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There are literally whole ghost towns throughout the south now because of how NAFTA destroyed the textile industry.
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TigerNet Immortal [175321]
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Furniture too. It's shameful.***
Apr 11, 2025, 10:51 AM
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Heisman Winner [80967]
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The tool for wage depression may well have been the
Apr 11, 2025, 10:59 AM
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illegal immigration, but the blame still should fall on those controlling the wages.
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TigerNet Immortal [175321]
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I agree that no one is blameless, but I'd switch the majority blame assignment.
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Apr 11, 2025, 11:07 AM
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If you had a job interview that was absolutely critical to you and you knew there was one other applicant in the running, and the hiring manager called you and said "whoever gets here first gets the job", you're likely going to break several traffic laws in the process of getting there as quick as you can, even though you know it's illegal. The risk is minimal and the reward is substantial.
That's how illegal immigration enforcement went....it was a wink and a nod from both parties charged with enforcing the laws for decades. So if you owned a business, and you knew you could pay less and remain competitive with your competition who you knew were utilizing illegal labor, risking almost zero consequences in the process, or take the moral high ground and only source legal labor, paying more and risking going out of business, you'd likely take the first option all day long.
I blame the lax enforcement of the law far more than those who availed themselves of the opportunities created by the lax enforcement.
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Heisman Winner [80967]
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And I say those those who availed themselves of the opportunities
Apr 11, 2025, 12:19 PM
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pulled all the levers they could to make sure enforcement was lax.
Those are the same folks how would be all too happy for us to go back to sawmill dollars.
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IF I used a good methodology a person doing what your parents did
Apr 11, 2025, 10:42 AM
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in 1975 should now be making $288,000/ year to afford that house.
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Which, according to McLubbin's work yesterday, is about the
Apr 11, 2025, 10:43 AM
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average Jounger's salary
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Heisman Winner [80967]
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Yet we are all still closer to being homeless than billionaires or even
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500 millionaires.
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TigerNet Immortal [175321]
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You've said this twice now. I have no clue what the point is.
Apr 11, 2025, 10:48 AM
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I'm closer to being dog faced ugly than I am a Ralph Lauren model, but I'm happy with my looks.
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The point of that is, I don't think people of a certain stature
Apr 11, 2025, 12:14 PM
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know what way they should be pulling the rope. They vote as if giving more tax breaks to the ultra rich will ever help anybody but said ultra rich. Folks aren't going to suddenly jump to those income levels. Many are so #### leveraged that they can't take much of a bump in the road. Yet help the wrong folks they do.
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Game Changer [1839]
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your whole personality is boomer politics.
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you might wanna look at that
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Re: I want every closet communist here ... please pay attention ...
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Apr 11, 2025, 10:15 AM
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STIVE TO INSPIRE***
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DYSLEXICS UNTIE***
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I don't think that word means what you think it means***
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Apr 11, 2025, 10:33 AM
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Game Day Hero [4460]
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fascist, communist, socialist -- all basically the same thing, right? smh***
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you know, tom cruise still wont cumm out the closet
Apr 11, 2025, 10:49 AM
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Re: I want every closet communist here ... please pay attention ...
Apr 11, 2025, 10:55 AM
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India flexing in the comments
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Re: I want every closet communist here ... please pay attention ...
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Call people communists.
Post about the evils of global capitalism.
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Did you just post a video of a 75 yr world GDP projection...like it's a fact?***
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No ... I drilled some ice cores and did some math.***
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I love how you take stupid and then multiply it by stupid***
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THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD STAY OUT OF POL, CLEM.
Apr 11, 2025, 1:58 PM
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SOMEONE HIJACKED YOUR ACCCOUNT AND IS MAKING YOU LOOK LIKE A REAL AHOLE. AND NOT THE AHOLE OF SOME CHOICE REDHEAD. LIKE, BOBBY'S AFTER HE BUILDS IT IN A HOT GARAGE.
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