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why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 24, 2021, 12:49 PM
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I didnt realize he is 3 and 18 in 2 years. will he be fired if he cant have a winning record in the 3rd season?
what are his chances of coming back to Clemson?
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 24, 2021, 12:54 PM
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I don’t think anyone on Tigernet can answer any of those questions. We don’t know either.
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 24, 2021, 12:59 PM
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I don’t know, but I really doubt he would be fired after year 3 even with another losing season.
I think the AD there is banking on Coach Scott to build a program “The Dabo Way”…which can take time.
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 24, 2021, 1:02 PM
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I'm guessing he has 2 more years to show improvement.
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 24, 2021, 1:11 PM
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Yeah, agree. Taggert had em going,. then strong couldn't keep it. Don't remember if they fired him or what but he left it a mess.
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 24, 2021, 2:49 PM
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I agree with that for sure, but the point is he’s trying to use the Clemson blueprint of building the solid foundation first. It’s a gamble to give him a bunch of time, because it may or may not work there. But I think that’s their mindset.
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I hope Jeff succeeds, but his level of talent is just good or better
Dec 26, 2021, 2:22 PM
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than the teams he's playing. Perhaps he needs to bring in "his guys" and develop a culture, but his current level of talent is far better than 3 wins in 2 years.
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 27, 2021, 1:13 PM
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I don’t know, but I really doubt he would be fired after year 3 even with another losing season.
I think the AD there is banking on Coach Scott to build a program “The Dabo Way”…which can take time.
He needs at least 6 years as most coaches would. One full recruiting class then last 2 pulling it together. That is why Clemson does it faster cause hire within
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 27, 2021, 1:13 PM
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I don’t know, but I really doubt he would be fired after year 3 even with another losing season.
I think the AD there is banking on Coach Scott to build a program “The Dabo Way”…which can take time.
He needs at least 6 years as most coaches would. One full recruiting class then last 2 pulling it together. That is why Clemson does it faster cause hire within
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 24, 2021, 1:12 PM
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His roster has been mediocre the past 2 seasons. Hopefully with all of those Clemson transfers coming in he can do much better next season.
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 24, 2021, 1:29 PM
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Because, as Dabo said - winning is hard.
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 24, 2021, 1:39 PM
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4 reasons...
1. Not enough time for recruiting classes to make an impact. (however, he's fixing that with the transfer portal EXTREMELY well)
2. No on campus stadium. Him and the AD are trying to fix years of neglect.
3. Injuries got them this year. They were extremely close to winning a 3 more games -- including a win over a ranked BYU team.
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 24, 2021, 2:00 PM
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Ok - the suspense is killing us. Reason #4?
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 26, 2021, 5:43 PM
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4 reasons...
1. Not enough time for recruiting classes to make an impact. (however, he's fixing that with the transfer portal EXTREMELY well)
2. No on campus stadium. Him and the AD are trying to fix years of neglect.
3. Injuries got them this year. They were extremely close to winning a 3 more games -- including a win over a ranked BYU team.
Here are my top 3 reasons I agree with you:
1. The Covid year was a tough one to start as a coach. So many challenges to overcome.
2. The recruiting needs time and I am certain Coach Scott will get his guys and build a winning tradition.
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 24, 2021, 1:41 PM
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This was a surprise? The program was in tatters. RELAX.
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mostly poor QB play
Dec 24, 2021, 1:42 PM
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But there are a host of other problems at USF that will take a long time (possibly longer than J Scott) to fix. First and foremost is a lack of a stadium (they play at Ray Jay), and second their inability to recruit the 2nd tier 3 star Tampa area kids
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 24, 2021, 5:41 PM
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Being a head coach is not easy... he's finding out the hard way... but I'm sure he's got a plan and hopefully turns it around.
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 24, 2021, 7:03 PM
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He started with no talent and not a great culture. Give him time and he will show a lot of improvement starting with a winning record in 2022.
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 26, 2021, 1:38 PM
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He took the wrong job.
Had He of been patient He probably could be coaching Oregon right now
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 24, 2021, 9:40 PM
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If they don't significantly improve in year 3 I don't think it's going to work out.
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in his defense this was tech his first season
Dec 24, 2021, 9:52 PM
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2020 was just an odd year for everyone..no spring, no fall, recruiting was odd and so on..this was the first full year he had as head coach.
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 26, 2021, 7:59 AM
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I didnt realize he is 3 and 18 in 2 years. will he be fired if he cant have a winning record in the 3rd season?
what are his chances of coming back to Clemson?
All the reasons, plus still paying out coaches, possibly ones before the Taggart hire, and the lack of an IPTAY-type organization. Also, Scott had to return 1-2% of budget because of NCAA violations from the previous regime. Little fires everywhere.
Go Tigers!
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 26, 2021, 7:59 AM
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I didnt realize he is 3 and 18 in 2 years. will he be fired if he cant have a winning record in the 3rd season?
what are his chances of coming back to Clemson?
All the reasons, plus still paying out coaches, possibly ones before the Taggart hire, and the lack of an IPTAY-type organization. Also, Scott had to return 1-2% of budget because of NCAA violations from the previous regime. Little fires everywhere.
Go Tigers!
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We are members of the Bulls Club down here - and as a LONG
Dec 26, 2021, 8:59 AM
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TIME and current IPTAY donor ….. I can definitely testify that USF has an IPTAY-style organization AND they treat their donors a WHOLE LOT better than what IPTAY has been doing for the last many years.
IPTAY has no regard - based on personal experience - unless you are leaving / giving multi-million dollar gifts.
The Fike & Heisman level donors - they couldn’t care less.
At USF - become an Iron Bull at any level and you have helped improve the program forever. They even treat upper level regular club members VERY well - know your name, touch base via email or a quick call. Good folks that understand donation dollars are hard to come by. They are the way IPTAY used to be many, many years ago.
Jeff Scott will start paying dividends this coming year. Maybe close to .500 - maybe a little better.
NEXT YEAR after that ? It’s on !!!
And I disagree with above poster - QB play has been good and is going to get REALLY good. True freshman lefthander Timmy McClain - dude is a baller - going to be FUN to watch. Made freshman mistakes this year - expected - but it didn’t cost ball games single-handedly.
This year - was defensive busts at times. Young defense.
And building the culture. Charlie Strong absolutely destroyed the whole deal. We saw it upclose & personal - he absolutely sucks at being a head coach / leader of young men. I have not seen anyone worse. True story.
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Re: We are members of the Bulls Club down here - and as a LONG
Dec 26, 2021, 1:43 PM
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Thank you for your up close personal experience. I agree with you that things in Iptay have changed. I have been in one of the two levels you mentioned for a number of years and I can say the personal touch has all but disappeared
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They will be greatly improved next year! Will win at least 6***
Dec 26, 2021, 9:04 AM
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 26, 2021, 12:45 PM
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With the renewed success at UCF, I doubt if USF will give him a lot of more time, right now one more year for sure. Guessing that's why he is counting on the hight commitment to and from the transer portal. Time will tell. USF has a track record of short terms for coaches with no progressive results.
If he had stayed at CU, IMO he would be the OC today.
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 26, 2021, 1:33 PM
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I didnt realize he is 3 and 18 in 2 years. will he be fired if he cant have a winning record in the 3rd season?
what are his chances of coming back to Clemson?
Simple: he had no very little talent and no culture to build off of when he arrived. Takes time at USF as it’s not a plug and play school. I doubt he would be fired but will need to show progress in PY3 of his tenure. Not sure coming back to Clemson would be wise should he be fired as he needs to coach somewhere different and show results.
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 26, 2021, 2:58 PM
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Lack of good players!!
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 26, 2021, 3:32 PM
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and lack of facilities
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Living in Tampa, st Pete -
Dec 26, 2021, 7:09 PM
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The support is there. They know how bad it was. They know that ray rays brother was not the right leader year 1.
Jeff has already improved the roster and getting people in the right spots. Their QB room needs improvement, and wide outs are nothing special. D line is needing some girth.
While the wins have yet to occur, they are improving. I expect a decent year and then a program for the school to be proud of.
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Re: why is Jeff Scott struggling so bad at USF?
Dec 27, 2021, 1:30 PM
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He needs better players and is working on it.
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