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Clemson Conqueror [11264]
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Did God reward Dabo with a national championship?
Feb 11, 2017, 10:12 AM
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After all the criticism over him wearing his religion on his sleeves, he leads one of the most successful programs in recent history and wins the Championship.
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Re: Did God reward Dabo with a national championship?
Feb 11, 2017, 10:15 AM
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Not sure that is how that works .
Dabo on the other hand , rewarded Clemson faithful with one ...that much is certain .
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [98452]
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GOD doesn't "play" FB or have favorites ...
Feb 11, 2017, 10:27 AM
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IMHO but possibly will & can reward a Follower like DaBO..but if so then one might say GOD was against Saban, who seems to be a righteous man himself.
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Orange Blooded [2212]
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Re: GOD doesn't "play" FB or have favorites ...
Feb 12, 2017, 12:10 PM
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Saban has 5 national championship rings.
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Re: Did God reward Dabo with a national championship?
Feb 12, 2017, 4:53 PM
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Dabo rewarded Dabo with a National Championship, and God is happy for Dabo doing the right things to get there. God has a lot more important things to than reward his flock with Championships, but he is happy to see them earn those things for them selves!!!
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Gridiron Giant [16084]
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These types of questions only serve to create conflict.***
Feb 11, 2017, 10:24 AM
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Rock Defender [71]
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Re: These types of questions only serve to create conflict.***
Feb 11, 2017, 10:31 AM
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But only for people who are conflicted about Him.
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Uhm, no***
Feb 11, 2017, 1:55 PM
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Clemson Conqueror [11264]
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Re: These types of questions only serve to create conflict.***
Feb 11, 2017, 6:13 PM
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Despite the wide range of opinions and backgrounds, posters were able to have a thoughtful discussion, about a very controversial topic in our country. If only Congress able to behave in this manner...
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Rock Defender [71]
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I believe He did because...
Feb 11, 2017, 10:29 AM
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At the 2:07 minute mark, I was sure asking Him to!
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110%er [5737]
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Re: I believe He did because...
Feb 11, 2017, 10:42 AM
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However at the 2:08 mark many Clemson fans might've used his name in vain!
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Orange Phenom [14820]
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Re: Did God reward Dabo with a national championship?
Feb 11, 2017, 10:50 AM
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God could care less.
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Orange Immortal [66353]
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Jeremiah 29:11***
Feb 11, 2017, 12:56 PM
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Orange Blooded [3459]
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You're just being a provocateur, right?
Feb 11, 2017, 10:54 AM
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Because that prosperity theology garbage is by definition un-Christian.
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All-TigerNet [14488]
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Lol
Feb 11, 2017, 10:59 AM
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You serious Clark?
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Legend [6844]
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Re: Did God reward Dabo with a national championship?
Feb 11, 2017, 11:02 AM
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I think the belief in God helped Dabo win but God himself hopefully does not decide football games.
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CU Medallion [20192]
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Allah is good.***
Feb 11, 2017, 11:03 AM
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Oculus Spirit [41753]
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Allah is a false God, the proof is written in the bible***
Feb 11, 2017, 12:40 PM
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Orange Phenom [14184]
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I assume other religions say something similar about
Feb 12, 2017, 12:16 PM
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Christianity.
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All-In [27366]
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Allah, Mohammad's uncle's favorite god of Mecca's
Feb 11, 2017, 7:41 PM
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360 gods was the moon god. He wasn't good or bad. He was just an idol.
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CU Medallion [19495]
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I wouldn't discount Cthulhu's role in this.***
Feb 11, 2017, 11:05 AM
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Gridiron Giant [16054]
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Yes. That is exactly what happened.
Feb 11, 2017, 11:09 AM
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The 8yrs of building a program with talented and dedicated recruits and coaches was just for show. God likes Clemson the best.
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Re: Did God reward Dabo with a national championship?
Feb 11, 2017, 11:11 AM
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If the question was could God have acted to forfill Dabo's faith in action when he believed that consistently doing right things right and striving to be the best would bring about Championships? The answer is yes
The Bible says Take delight in the lord and He will meet the desires of your heart. Psalms 37:4
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [98452]
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^^^^
Feb 11, 2017, 11:21 AM
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BingO!
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Orange Blooded [4995]
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Re: Well then why does He continue to ignore the poor?
Feb 11, 2017, 11:33 AM
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I think you can agree most poor people are in the situation they are because of the choices they've made....
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Orange Blooded [3459]
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Spoken like somebody who has never left the town he grew up in
Feb 11, 2017, 11:42 AM
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You need to travel a little.
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Orange Blooded [4995]
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Re: Spoken like somebody who has never left the town he grew up in
Feb 11, 2017, 11:58 AM
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I have and some of the happiest people in the world are those that have nothing while rich folks are usually the most miserable.
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Orange Blooded [3459]
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That's certainly one way to parse statistics
Feb 11, 2017, 12:13 PM
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Doesn't address the OP, but it's a quality soundbite to offer someone of limited intellect.
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110%er [3957]
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Re: Well then why does He continue to ignore the poor?
Feb 11, 2017, 11:48 AM
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I recently visited Cambodia - lovely people, fascinating place and extreme poverty for the vast majority of the population. I can assure you these people are not poor because of their choices. Their poverty is a condition of where they were born and circumstances beyond their control.
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Orange Blooded [4995]
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Re: Well then why does He continue to ignore the poor?
Feb 11, 2017, 11:56 AM
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But the choice to remain in poverty is their own.
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Re: Well then why does He continue to ignore the poor?
Feb 11, 2017, 12:13 PM
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Respectfully, this is not the case in most of the world. A mother with nine children living In slum in the Phillpiines who is not allowed to use contraception because her church forbids it and has no education does not have a legitimate path out of poverty. This is not a "choice" for so much of the world. I agree in the US the path out of poverty is much more possible, but definitely not always easy. But the US is just 4% of the world's population, so we must really expand our view here and avoid sweeping statements like saying poverty is a choice for all.
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Orange Blooded [4995]
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Re: Well then why does He continue to ignore the poor?
Feb 11, 2017, 12:23 PM
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The God of the Christian Bible warns against seeking happiness through worldly gains like money....
So maybe in His eyes a person living in financial poverty with a smile on their face is rich and the CEO bringing in a six figure salary who's always in a bad mood is poor.
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Re: Well then why does He continue to ignore the poor?
Feb 11, 2017, 12:48 PM
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Good. So these choices you were speaking of which everyone has to either be impoverished or not really don't matter then because the poor are very happy with their lot in life. Glad to know this.
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Re: Well then why does He continue to ignore the poor?
Feb 11, 2017, 12:58 PM
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In the context of the question "Why does God continue to ignore the poor?"....
A. Some financially poor people are there because of the choices they have made and continue to make.
B. Happiness and contentment can be achieved even in the worse situations.
Everything is not black and white. I'm not saying all poor people are happy and all rich people are sad. I'm saying that from God's perspective some rich people may need more help than the single mother struggling to make ends meet.
God offers everlasting happiness which has nothing to do with how much money is in your bank account or how big your house is....
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Re: Well then why does He continue to ignore the poor?
Feb 11, 2017, 1:03 PM
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I'm glad to see you have moderated your stance. You now say "some" are poor because of the choices they make. Previously your statements were absolute.
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Orange Blooded [3459]
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Re: Well then why does He continue to ignore the poor?
Feb 11, 2017, 12:01 PM
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In most cases people that live in the USA are poor because they have no drive and are lazy.
I didn't say all but most are poor because of situations they bring on themselves.
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Top TigerNet [28007]
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if you're talking about homeless people
Feb 11, 2017, 1:39 PM
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A lot of homeless people have mental disorders that greatly disrupt their chances at getting and keeping good jobs. P
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Valley Protector [1472]
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Re: Well then why does He continue to ignore the poor?
Feb 11, 2017, 10:43 PM
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Just because you are poor doesn't mean you are poor in Spirit. You are looking at it
from an earthly view point. Financially poor can be rich in Spirit and have great
relationship with God with riches in Heaven waiting for them. This is a sinful
world.
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Re: Well then why does He continue to ignore the poor?
Feb 12, 2017, 2:05 AM
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being poor financially doesn't mean they are not rich in other ways. I know some financially poor people who are a lot happier and have less troubles than the financially rich.
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Clemson Conqueror [11264]
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Re: Well then why does He continue to ignore the poor?
Feb 12, 2017, 2:23 AM
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Agreed. Plenty of examples of this in life. People who win the lottery have a high suicide rate, and there's a reason for the trust fund babies.
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Gridiron Giant [16054]
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Doing things right is why Dabo is successful; and yes, his faith
Feb 11, 2017, 11:26 AM
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is a huge part of his aura and character. But to suggest that an almighty God "rewarded" Dabo with a victory is embarrassingly absurd.
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Orange Blooded [3459]
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This /\***
Feb 11, 2017, 11:28 AM
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Re: Did God reward Dabo with a national championship?
Feb 11, 2017, 11:36 AM
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God did not reward him the NC but God has blessed his life so that he is in the position he is in.
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National Champion [7219]
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Re: Did God reward Dabo with a national championship?
Feb 11, 2017, 11:36 AM
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No.God is impartial when it comes to things like this.
God did however bless Clemson with a man who takes his faith seriously
and who gives credit where it is due.
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Athletic Dir [1121]
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Re: Did God reward Dabo with a national championship?
Feb 11, 2017, 11:41 AM
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I can't believe in a supreme being, but I do believe in free will and the remote possibility of other dimensions.
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Game Day Hero [4309]
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If you are a non believer, then just move on...
Feb 11, 2017, 11:43 AM
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If you see someone express their faith in a post, just go on to the next one. Why do you feel you must jump into a theological debate at the first sign of Christ?
And for you faithful, where is it written that God doesn't care about football?
"The lot is cast into the lap, It's every decision is the Lords"
And to the OP's original question, absolutely!
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Re: If you are a non believer, then just move on...
Feb 12, 2017, 11:00 AM
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uh...ok
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110%er [6938]
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Re: Did God reward Dabo with a national championship?
Feb 11, 2017, 11:46 AM
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Dabo used his God given talents to reach his goals. Most folks don't use their gifts as well as he does. Fortunately we are all the recipients of Dabo's work.
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Re: Did God reward Dabo with a national championship?
Feb 11, 2017, 12:15 PM
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I'm pretty sure Alabama has great Christians playing for them too. Nick might be a Christian (I don't know one way or the other).
I like to keep religions out of sports.
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Ring of Honor [23211]
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Nah... doesn't work that way...
Feb 11, 2017, 12:29 PM
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Some of the biggest scumbag coaches win championships all the time, at all levels. Some of the most nasty and despicable people I've ever met are extremely successful and very wealthy. And some of the most humble and faithful Christians I've ever known struggled their whole lives with bad health, financial problems, and personal tragedy. Best bet is to just look for your rewards in heaven...
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Re: Did God reward Dabo with a national championship?
Feb 11, 2017, 12:30 PM
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Yes and no. Dabo's faith led him to make sound decisions based on his belief in God. No, in the sense of God didn't directly control the games result. God is in us all, it's our choice whether to live for Him or against Him.
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Oculus Spirit [41753]
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God loves football and rewards the righteous with wins***
Feb 11, 2017, 12:38 PM
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CU Medallion [20192]
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Why have the "Blue Devils" been rewarded with many Natty's
Feb 11, 2017, 1:00 PM
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In basketball?
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Oculus Spirit [41753]
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It's a Methodist College and God loves coach K***
Feb 11, 2017, 1:47 PM
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Re: Did God reward Dabo with a national championship?
Feb 11, 2017, 12:42 PM
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Since there is no god,no.
It came down to excellent talent, coaching, and good luck (NC State).
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Game Day Hero [4362]
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No. He did not. God does not care about sports. And he
Feb 11, 2017, 1:00 PM
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doesn't reward people just for being good people and because they truly love him. If that were the case, bad things would not happen to good Christians or good people. Dabo was a little off base with that comment.
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Re: No. He did not. God does not care about sports. And he
Feb 11, 2017, 1:04 PM
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No he was not, Dabo as a man of faith thanked his lord and savior for blessing him.
Nothing wrong with that.
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Ring of Honor [23211]
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Mods should delete this thread immediately, what if the NCAA
Feb 11, 2017, 1:16 PM
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catches wind of this? If an extra dessert on a campus visit or one too many phone calls to a recruit is cheating, then surely having an all-powerful God tilt the odds in your favor is a violation.
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Clemson Conqueror [11264]
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Re: Mods should delete this thread immediately, what if the NCAA
Feb 11, 2017, 2:19 PM
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^^^haha that's funny, idk who you are!
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [99922]
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Our team won their reward because they prepared...
Feb 11, 2017, 1:44 PM
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in every facet of what it takes to win a championship. Dabo and our coaching staff did their jobs including recruiting, discipline, training, classwork and setting the ultimate goal as reward.
The truth that living clean and justly is it's own reward seems to be overlooked in this thread.
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Are you trying to discredit my lucky underwear?! It sure sounds like you are***
Feb 11, 2017, 1:47 PM
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Clemson Conqueror [11355]
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Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman who
Feb 11, 2017, 1:51 PM
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needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Your answer lies therein.
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What? You think God's a Notre Dame fan??***
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Orange Blooded [4083]
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disrepectful.. God follows human lives, not football
Feb 11, 2017, 5:47 PM
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Clemson Conqueror [11264]
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Re: disrepectful.. God follows human lives, not football
Feb 11, 2017, 6:15 PM
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I never suggested that God follows football.
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Re: disrepectful.. God follows human lives, not football
Feb 11, 2017, 9:24 PM
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please don't bring God into sports. It's his/her outlet as much as ours. Why do you think sports were created to begin with??
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Clemson Conqueror [11264]
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Re: disrepectful.. God follows human lives, not football
Feb 11, 2017, 10:17 PM
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I agree with you, too include politics. My motive was to create a stimulating dialog and nothing more. I learn from listening to others and can honestly admit to having learned from the intelligent responses in this thread.
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Re: disrepectful.. God follows human lives, not football
Feb 12, 2017, 8:44 AM
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Football does indeed involve human lives. For this human life it's a way to take a break from all the other crap, and simply enjoy the game win or lose. It's should be a safe zone to avoid the realities of day to day life, and an opportunity to bond with other human lives without the daily grinds. I played sports all my life, and part of the beauty of it was the break from everything else going on. I'd like continue that break as a fan of sports now. The rest of this #### can be discussed in other forums of this site. I come here for football and nothing else.
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Clemson Conqueror [11264]
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Re: disrepectful.. God follows human lives, not football
Feb 12, 2017, 10:57 AM
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Then why open the post? The title was clear as to the subject matter. Don't click the link and move on.
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All-TigerNet [14233]
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No, Deshaun Watson did.***
Feb 12, 2017, 11:49 AM
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Paw Warrior [4762]
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Same thing***
Feb 12, 2017, 11:56 AM
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