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TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU
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TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 12:20 PM
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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 12:28 PM
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Pure Click Bait! This site gives voice to the most unqualified nerd in the history of sport.

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 12:47 PM
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It sure is effective every time for years now, though.

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 2:03 PM
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Here's the proof that PF should know since it's from ESPN: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28412865/a-heated-lsu-clemson-debate-plays-real-death-valley

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 21, 2025, 12:18 AM
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First of all, both teams maybe called Tigers, but the real Death Valley isn't a shared named for both teams. The only Death valley is in Clemson South Carolina, and the Tigers in Baton Rouge Louisiana has been trying to steal our stadiums name since we lost to them at the "Sugar Bowl" in 1959. As we all know in college sports teams will go back and forth defeating each other but a loss to a team doesn't give them the right to try and steal the team that lost stadium name. Clemson's FB stadium was named Death Valley in 1948 and it wouldn't matter if LSWho beat Clemson in FB throughout history, Clemson's FB stadium will be the only Death Valley and the LSWho stadium will always be Deaf Valley regardless of how many times they defeat our FB team bc Clemson and Clemson fan will not allow out stadium name be stolen from us by LSWho or any other FB program!!! They may as well stop the dumbshit bc we're not going to allow our stadium name be stolen by LSWho or anybody else, period, and just bc they say they are Death Valley; it isn't so just bc they want to steal the name!!!

The only true Death Valley FB stadium is in Clemson South Carolina, and it absolutely isn't anywhere near Baton Rouge Louisiana!!! Suck it LSWho fans with your Deaf Valley FB stadium!!!

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Typical Finebaum: Admits hes wrong by saying we had the name first

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Apr 20, 2025, 2:00 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU ]
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and then tries to spin it with SEC homerism by stating it’s the way it “feels”. Reminds me of Bama and the “eye test” back in 2018.

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Re: Typical Finebaum: Admits hes wrong by saying we had the name first

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Apr 20, 2025, 6:45 PM
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The only way to shut that idiot up, is to beat LSU.
To quote a Great Coach ‘Leave No Doubt’ in Death Valley!

Go Tigers, Beat LSU!!

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 3:28 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU ]
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Ur right what a clown

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 6:26 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU ]
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To begin with i wouldn't have went any farther with that idiot than this one thing, Clemson was being called Death Valley long before the LSWho fan began calling their stadium Death Valley. They called their stadium Deaf Valley bc of the noise they can they generate with over 100,000 fans filling their stadium!!! Tell him if he can't accept that as the true facts that he is Dummer than you 1st thought, and he has proven himself to be beyond stupid!!!

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 11:37 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU ]
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Paul Fckedintheface Shitbaum thinks that he knows all about everything just like he knew his all-time favorite Alabama FB team was going to roll over Clemson in the 2018 national championship game and how did that prediction turn out for Fckedintheface Shitbaum. Fagman was so embarrassed by how easy Clemson beat the crap out his all-time favorite team that had the best team in their history of their FB program...

Paul Fckedintheface Shitbaum was left absolutely speechless, that was the first time ever with him doing his ESECPN worthless job that he had to sit there on national TV and eat all those piles of Elephant dung that Clemson beat out of his Bama team up and down the field for 3 of the longest quarters of FB that he's had to sit through and watch in his entire life time. We would think that with those Elephant ears he has flapping on each side of his butt ugly face that he would know what stadium was named "Deaf Valley" and "Death Valley", but to prove just how stupid he really is, he still don't know that Deaf Valley stadium is in Baton Rouge Louisiana, and that Clemson's Death Valley has always been in Clemson South Carolina!!!

Also somebody needs to tell him that it isn't hard find for the ones smart enough to type in Clemson's Death Valley into their GPS or in their cell phone and it will take him to the front gate of the real Death Valley. I can see that it would be hard for Shitbaum to find it bc he would need to know how to spell Clemson's Death Valley for him to find it. Suck Clemson fans A$$ Shitbaum!!!

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 12:36 PM
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He will continue to act like a ##### head as long as he gets clicks.

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 12:47 PM
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Paul Finebaum is a professional troll.

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 1:25 PM
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He's not very professional at anything, IMO.

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 6:40 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU ]
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Actually, he's a paid I D I O T that is so stupid that he believes he knows what he's talking about!!!

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So begins the engagement!

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Apr 20, 2025, 12:49 PM
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Let the deluge of engagement begin; nothing creates more participation in Clemson nation than Finebaum.

He & Tigernet know what they're doing for engagement, make no mistake. I wish we were more interested in other things, but it's been this way for years now & it's just who we (& Finebaum) are these days is all.

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Re: So begins the engagement!

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Apr 20, 2025, 2:18 PM
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This!

Finebaum is in a parasocial relationship with the Clemson fanbase. We love to hate him so much and he loves to hate us.. he’s contractually obligated to make an anti-Clemson hit piece once every 90 days or so to gin up engagement. We are just putting money in E$ECPN’s pocket!

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if only the acc was saddled to a company

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Apr 20, 2025, 12:57 PM
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that would prop them up like espn does the sec while burying the acc. we cant get out of this conference fast enough

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Re: if only the acc was saddled to a company- when FSU game was cancelled

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Apr 20, 2025, 1:41 PM
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due to the shooting Pack had Carl Ravech fill in as he was sch to do their game. He found more ways to mention the SEC in the interview w minimal credit of the ACC and FSU. It was nauseating bbecause he was clearly trying to do it.

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 1:23 PM
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Not sure why this is even up for debate. Clemson stadium is known as Death Valley and LSU stadium is known as Deaf Valley. The fact that LSU and SEC fans have not been able to distinguish the difference between the 2 words (Death and Deaf) proves something I was taught a long time ago... There is no educating a mind filled with ignorance.

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Apr 20, 2025, 1:42 PM
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when my grown daughter was little she would say "what's the matter are you death?" Obviously she would mean deaf

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 1:51 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU ]
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Forever let it be known - LSU Tigers are the Copy Cats. They are incapable of an original thought so they tried to steal our name.
We’ll give them good reason to go deaf when they come here this fall.
Hey Paulie, we can see your lips moving but we can’t hear a word you’re saying.

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 10:22 PM
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Careful....we stole Auburn's mascot (one.of them), their colors (roughly), their football coaches, and who knows what else. Glass houses my friend

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Apr 23, 2025, 9:14 AM
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We wouldn't have our amazing history without Auburn; it's true our team name & colors are derivative by nature, albeit in that case it was a symbol of respect for their contributions, rather than an otherwise random naming we take personally in 2025 like with LSU.

It's funny how things work out, but man, we sure take the Finebaum bait & then we end up committing to the bit forever. I'll never understand how we became this way (we kinda used to be the opposite & a beacon of optimism & positivity instead, & not that long ago), but it's just something some of us have to stomach every time it happens is all.

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 1:41 PM
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Why does anybody listen to Paul Finebaum? Why does anybody pay any attention to Paul Finebaum?

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Honest answer


Apr 23, 2025, 9:16 AM
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It works.

I don't listen to Finebaum, yet he is consistently & inescapably the most engaging topic on Tigernet & across Clemson nation.

We insist we don't want it, but we eat it up like a buffet so consistently it ends up being beneficial for Clemson content creators enough to make it impossible to ignore; entire articles from accredited writers have been written about this one phone call, for example.

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Apr 20, 2025, 1:55 PM
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He’s a tool. And a fool.

One of Rocky Top’s best.

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Apr 20, 2025, 1:59 PM
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D1ck with ears at it again smh

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 2:25 PM
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Still find it weird how ESPN will get rid of people like David Pollock and Danny Kennel but keep this f###ing shill who brings nothing except rage bait.

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 2:36 PM
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FFS Quit reporting g on what the D?!k with ears is doing You are only giving him traffic he doesn’t deserve

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You can always identify an idiot when they present opinions as facts.

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Apr 20, 2025, 2:47 PM
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Nm

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Quite certain that whomever is calling his show

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Apr 20, 2025, 2:51 PM
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is probably not our best representative in that conversation.

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 2:53 PM
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This guy is so biased. If the lamecocks had a coach named Bubba Howard and he went 8-4, and if Bubba found a lucky rock that year and kept it in his desk, PF would name it "Howard's Rock" and proceed to tell everyone in SEC fantasy land why that rock is the real Howard's Rock!

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 3:29 PM
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Finebaum is an idiot and sec spinster. Complete d bag and as long as he can get reaction Esecpn will continue to push his crap on people regardless of how unimportant and inaccurate his dumb *** opinion is.

Like Dabo said don’t listen to someone you wouldn’t seek advice from to begin with.


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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 3:37 PM
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Let’s see if flag into quarantine thing works on TigerNet initiated posts.

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU


Apr 20, 2025, 4:18 PM
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Why do the guys that run this site post this moron every time he says something knowing if it’s about Clemson it’s going to be negative?

The people doing this are giving him exactly what he wants… more clicks and more notoriety. Stop posting this nonsense and nobody will care.

He hates Clemson bc we smashed his greatest team ever and made him look like the complete fool he is. He will never let that go.

Quit giving him any time whatsoever out of our day.

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Clicks and ads***


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Apr 23, 2025, 9:18 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU ]
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It's effective, & remarkably so, that's the answer.

There have been articles written by named writers from this phone conversation alone, & the engagement, like every other time, is remarkable.

We say it's not what we want, but instead it always ends up being the #1 topic in Clemson nation every time & by a tremendous margin.

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Apr 20, 2025, 4:21 PM
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What is Jerry’s TNET handle?

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 20, 2025, 4:56 PM
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Well one of them is a valley stadium and the other isn’t, so…

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Apr 20, 2025, 6:05 PM
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Would the sound in a deaf valley be pretty quiet? If it’s so loud it makes you deaf who wants to go there??

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He's crushing in Dabo hard... and dabo isn't reciprocating


Apr 20, 2025, 8:36 PM
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Clemson and Dabo get paid for living in his head. Dudes got a chubber bad for Dabo!

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Apr 20, 2025, 8:46 PM
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One of my biggest regrets in my otherwise no regrets life is a few years ago I was at a urinal next to Pawwwwl in the Charlotte airport and didn’t pi$$ on his loafers.
I’m guessing I was scared he might kick my butt……..NOT!

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Apr 20, 2025, 9:29 PM
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Who cares about PF? Not even bothering reading this article.

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 21, 2025, 3:45 AM
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Why can’t we all just get along

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why exactly is this guy a expert on anything?

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Apr 21, 2025, 5:45 AM
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hes just a loudmouthed geek who hasnt played a down inning or quarter of anything in his life.

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Apr 21, 2025, 8:40 AM
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This will be settled on the field.

Clemson fans will have their chance to legitimize that our stadium is as loud and intimidating as any in the country.

This being the first game of the season and clearly our biggest test of the year , I have no doubt they will answer the bell.

The fans in general are a reflection of what we see on TigerNet.

And what I've seen is a thrill and excitement to get this thing going that we haven't had around here since the season we anxiously awaited to see Trevor Lawrence take the field after it became obvious how special he was.

Can't wait. GO TIGERS !

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Unless


Apr 23, 2025, 9:19 AM
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We have to beat them next year in Baton Rouge, too. That would help seal the deal.

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU


Apr 21, 2025, 2:03 PM
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I remember watching an LSU vs Miss State game and a good portion of the LSU fan base got up and left at half time. Tigers almost came back to win, but in front of an empty stadium. LSU is like Texas A$M all bark and little bite. They got lucky a few years ago when OHio a state transfer Joe Burrow led them to a title, but as soon as Burrow was gone, tigers were crap again.
I’m all about football and SEC fans are all about partying.

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU

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Apr 21, 2025, 4:02 PM
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There have been more than a few people to have researched this and have written documents and newspaper articles. LSU was 1st called 'Deaf Valley' because of the noise, not 'Death Valley'. Clemson was first called 'Death Valley' I believe by the Presbyterian College coach many years ago because that's where teams went to die, otherwise get beat. So Baldy Finebaum is wrong again!!! someone should challenge him with a monetary bet. Finebaum is being sexually abused by the SEC.

I believe that 'Tiger Rag' also has a similar story, and was first played at Clemson.

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Apr 21, 2025, 6:14 PM
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Here is a nice write up for those unfamiliar with the story

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28412865/a-heated-lsu-clemson-debate-plays-real-death-valley



For some, "Death" actually predated "Deaf" in Baton Rouge. On Jan. 1, 1959, when LSU and Heisman Trophy winner Billy Cannon capped the school's first national title with a 7-0 victory in the Sugar Bowl, some of those fans stole "Death" when describing the home valley. Why? Because they believed they had earned that right after defeating the team that was already using the name for its home stadium.

Yep, Clemson.

The first known "Death Valley" reference tossed Memorial Stadium's way came more than 10 years before Peele's nickname. In 1945, Lonnie McMillan, head coach of the rival Presbyterian College Blue Hose, had just endured a 76-0 rout at the hands of the orange-and-white Tigers. At the time, tradition held that PC and Clemson always played the season opener. And those games, in September in South Carolina, are essentially like playing football inside a pottery kiln, especially on Clemson's home field, which sits in a natural gorge, built atop bedrock and surrounded by reflective white concrete.

According to the official Clemson history books, McMillan had visited the Mojave Desert a decade earlier en route the 1932 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles. He compared the unpleasantness of that midsummer desert experience to his September visits to play the Tigers, saying Clemson was "college football's Death Valley." Frank Howard, the gregarious Alabama grad who had taken over as Clemson head coach five years earlier, loved the story and repeatedly recounted it. He told it so much, it eventually stuck."
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Not reading that crap.


Apr 22, 2025, 5:34 AM
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I don't feed trolls.

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Re: TNET: Paul Finebaum spars with Clemson fan about real Death Valley vs. LSU


Apr 22, 2025, 8:13 AM
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Again...little man with the big ears is off base...until you have been to a game at deaf and drunk Valley on the banks of the great river you will never understand what college football should not be about! In BR and south Louisiana it is just...just a social event...they probably have as many football fans as anywhere else but over half are incoherently drunk...it's like Cootlumbia with 50 more points on your SAT!

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