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Clemson Conqueror [11417]
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Not to excuse Hegseth et Al - but Obama / Biden also used Signal
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:14 PM
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Obama admin started using Signal for internal communications in ~ 2014.
I’d read that Biden Handlers Admin also used it; I presume that Trump 45 Admin also did.
Although the Hegseth / Signal-Gate episode was potentially problematic, the Houthi matter made it a weak sauce story. Technical error, no doubt. Consequences for America and America’s Middle East allies, none.
Personally, I’m thrilled about the fub-up. It exposed a weakness that the Trump admin of which Trump 47 admin had not been aware and/or a protocol error.
This / these mistakes are easy to fix.
As for the water-under-the-bridge thingy, I wonder if any previous Signal breaches were used by serious foreign adversaries to their advantage in countering truly meaningful internal American policies. I doubt we’ll ever learn about previous Signal fub-ups (if indeed any such fub-ups actually occurred).
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Paw Master [17102]
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Using signal wasn't the problem.
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:24 PM
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Adding the number for a leftist propagandist to the chat, was.
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Valley Legend [12210]
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Stupidity is the problem***
Mar 27, 2025, 6:50 AM
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Using Signal absolutely IS the problem. How difficult is this for you to
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Mar 27, 2025, 8:34 AM
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process? It is against Department of Defense policy to use Signal. Does this register for you? I doubt there's anything in the DoD policy about adding random journalists to Signal chats, because those Signal chats aren't supposed to happen in the first place when dealing with confidential information.
Your excuse gymnastics are pathetic.
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Paw Master [17102]
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LoL, you are 100% wrong.***
Mar 27, 2025, 9:05 AM
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Signal chat is authorized, and now your are saying the chat was confidential and not secret or top secret?
Those are 3 different levels of classification. So which one was the texts?
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Paw Warrior [4848]
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Re: LoL, you are 100% wrong.***
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Mar 27, 2025, 9:17 AM
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We know it’s authorized! It’s just not authorized for the kind of info Hegseth put on there😳. He can state all day that he didn’t put the classified “label” on the info but anyone reading the “attack plans” can see that that kind of information should not be seen by just anyone.
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Paw Warrior [4848]
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Re: Using Signal absolutely IS the problem. How difficult is this for you to
Mar 27, 2025, 9:12 AM
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All the excuses are indeed pathetic. Those idiots know this was a massive fuq up but continue to deflect and blame others. It’s right out of the tangerine turds playbook. From blaming the journalist for being ASKED to be in the chat to stating the info wasn’t classified to then deflecting and saying the journalist is a dishonest hack. It’s just embarrassing that we have a president and cabinet members that will continue lying instead of just admitting their fuq up and moving on.
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Re: Not to excuse Hegseth et Al - but Obama / Biden also used Signal
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:25 PM
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we spent nearly a decade listening to the hubbub about Hillary using a private server for potentially classified information, and here you are rationalizing the use of private servers for classified Whitehouse and DOD communication. But that should be normal, I would think that conservatives would be in favor of outsourcing COMSEC instead of relying on government systems, as long as it is not a Democrat.
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Paw Master [17102]
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What part of this was classified?
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:31 PM
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Also, Hillary was using that server to funnel money to the Clinton foundation using state dept communications. Big difference.
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Clemson Icon [24498]
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Re: What part of this was classified?
Mar 27, 2025, 6:53 AM
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Exactly. That's way worse than "war plans".
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Dynasty Maker [3234]
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Hegseth should resign.....
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:38 PM
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He was already a joke who should've been voted down in the Senate. His past is not indicative of someone who can handle a job like this.
If this administration was even remotely normal - which it is not - he'd either be fired or he'd "leave Government to spend more time with my family"....
Waltz might need to step aside, too...He's the idiot that looped Goldberg in...
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Campus Hero [13302]
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He wont because he has no class.
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Mar 26, 2025, 11:05 PM
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He’s more concerned about how he looks than the safety of the soldiers serving this country. He’s a pathetic POS who should’ve never been nominated to serve at this level.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108017]
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Thing that has ticked me off more than anything. No one has to resign
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Mar 27, 2025, 6:41 AM
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Or be prosecuted. All they need to do is admit they screwed up. Made a mistake. Several actually. Apologize for it. And make sure it won't happen again.
All you need to do. But our quality of leadership has been in decline for a while. So you get low quality work and low quality character.
Instead of having the character to take responsibility they choose to lie and blame others. Just sad.
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Re: Thing that has ticked me off more than anything. No one has to resign
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Mar 27, 2025, 6:46 AM
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Anybody who admits fault or apologizes will be fired. Trump learned that from his groomer Cohn. Just realized what he and JD Vance have in common.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108017]
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Hegseth is still in the red here.***
Mar 27, 2025, 9:08 AM
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Paw Master [16161]
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Re: Thing that has ticked me off more than anything. No one has to resign
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Mar 27, 2025, 7:58 AM
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It's pure arrogance and the unwillingness to admit to poor judgment only prolongs making this into an even bigger political event.
It was a dumb error to discuss a military operation on Signal, dumber yet to include an unfriendly journalist on the chat, and even dumber to continue to defend the indefensible.
See Bill Clinton getting a BJ in the Oval Office. If Bill had simply owned up to his stress relief sessions with Monica, told America he was sorry and that the problem was one that he hoped to work out with Hillary while asking publicly and privately for her forgiveness, his deal would have disappeared from the public eye in short order.
We are told now not to believe our lying eyes when reading the texts Goldberg provided. This was a very dumb move to begin with, but this "clean up" is emblematic of amateur hour.
If all of this helps a few Pubs grow a spine then this will turn out to have been a fortuitous event. Blind loyalty is never a good thing.
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Re: Thing that has ticked me off more than anything. No one has to resign
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Mar 27, 2025, 8:39 AM
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Haven't you read this thread? The kooks don't want an apology. They've already decided some underling "accidentally" adding a scumbag reporter is worse than Hillary intentionally setting up the years long use of an unauthorized and unsecured server which she then destroyed when it's contents were subpoenaed. I mean this is obviously a screw up but the clowns calling for resignations aren't serious or rational people.
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Associate AD [1079]
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Re: Thing that has ticked me off more than anything. No one has to resign
Mar 27, 2025, 9:10 PM
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I know from experience that there is little I can do to right your priorities or fix the underlying mental illness. But still ..,
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The issue isn't Signal, and it doesn't matter what Obama did
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Mar 27, 2025, 7:08 AM
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Signal is secure. Idiots are not. Hegseth is not qualified for this job and proved it, and he put lives at risk.
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Re: The issue isn't Signal, and it doesn't matter what Obama did
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Mar 27, 2025, 7:54 AM
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I’m not saying Hegseth is qualified but he wasn’t the one who added Goldberg. Walz did. I’m beginning to wander why the heck he had Goldberg as a contact in the first place.
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Re: The issue isn't Signal, and it doesn't matter what Obama did
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Hegseth, like the idiot that he is, chose to post the details, including times, of an upcoming military operation on Signal without verifying who was in the group. And LOL at the blond skanque who along with the rest of this administration who tries to gaslight us into believing nothing classified or top secret was posted on a compromised application.
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Ring of Honor [21960]
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Hegseth talks and carries himself like a half drunk Frat boy
Mar 27, 2025, 8:49 AM
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— meaning with little executive maturity. His updates should have been much more limited and nuanced…
Along the lines of…
“Plans finalized. Ready”
“Wheels up” or some other cliche
“Wheels down. All objectives accomplished ”
Maybe add “Zero causalities “
And then to compliment the military service members who executed the mission “Appreciate the team, flawless execution.”
Waltz should resign. He was responsible for setting up the Signal group chat and held accountable for the mistake of not validating attendees, managing content and overall security of information.
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Orange Elite [5410]
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Why are you so fine with your leaders lying to you?
Mar 27, 2025, 8:52 AM
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That's what I don't understand.
I can excuse mistakes, but why are you ok with them intentionally lying to you about their mistakes? It doesn't raise the question, what else are they lying to you about?
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We know you excuse Hegseth et al.***
Mar 27, 2025, 11:58 AM
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