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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105024]
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I wonder..... had Trump bothered to talk to Trudeau instead of ranting
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and raving and signing stuff on the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office.......he just MAY have been told about this.......from December 17, 2024.
Can't believe he's this.....nevermind. I can.
From December 17th, 2024:
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safety-canada/news/2024/12/government-of-canada-announces-its-plan-to-strengthen-border-security-and-our-immigration-system.html
The following day, December 18th, 2024:
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safety-canada/news/2024/12/the-government-of-canadas-border-plan-significant-investments-to-strengthen-border-security-and-our-immigration-system.html
What likely happened was Trump finally got around to talking to Trudeau, who was perplexed at Trump's belligerent actions. Trudeau reminded him Canada had already published a plan addressing every concern Trump alleged to have (BEFORE TRUMP EVEN TOOK OFFICE), at which point Trump realized he is an idiot, then spun everything as some concession to his tariffs, when it wasn't that at all. It was a plan they already had published, that Trump was no doubt ignorant of, because he's surrounded by yes men. I would hope this is not the situation, but I expect it is.
Maybe next time, before starting a trade war, he will pick up a phone.
Almost forgot, the spin.......
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Such incredible negotiator.
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Feb 4, 2025, 9:10 AM
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Much wow.
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I agree with you guys
Feb 4, 2025, 9:17 AM
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I don't like how he handled Canada.
I think - pure speculation here - he's got the redass at Trudeau in general, and is being a little whiny bitchbully.
Either way, hopefully he settles this and we move forward. I personally don't have issues with Canada from a trade perspective. I think they're a buncha absolutepussies, but that doesn't give me (us) the right to impose our ideologies on them.
For the tinfoil hatters - what if he already knew this and this was just market manipulation?
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There are 8 other countries ahead of Canada in which we have
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Feb 4, 2025, 9:20 AM
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larger trade deficits. Canada is one of the least trade deficit countries we trade with. Given the volume of trade, it's relatively even.
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Top TigerNet [29833]
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I don't disagree
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Feb 4, 2025, 9:23 AM
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so then there's 3 options:
1- He's a psychopath (probably)
2- It's personal w/ the Trudeau admin (probably)
3- It's market manipulation (probably)
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He tariffed the sun, too. Wouldnt allow it to shine in the US unless it paid.
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Feb 4, 2025, 9:15 AM
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Sun came up this morning! Woo…trumps a genius!
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Re: He tariffed the sun, too. Wouldnt allow it to shine in the US unless it paid.
Feb 4, 2025, 9:30 AM
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When I was a bright eyed MBA student, I had a GRA with the school’s institute dedicated to economic development in the state. This was during Clinton’s second term, and one of the economists had a caricature of the President on the wall.
It was Clinton admiring sunrise and saying “Wow. I am so good”.
Hadn’t thought of that caricature or the GRA in years. I’m getting old.
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Talk is cheap. Show me the goods.***
Feb 4, 2025, 9:16 AM
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Would a zerohedge link help?***
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Feb 4, 2025, 9:31 AM
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You scared to read an opinion? Most are sourced from US media that are
Feb 4, 2025, 9:40 AM
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apparently contrary to yours... They touch on current topics more readily than most sources. It's why I go there.
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best financial analysis on the web
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Feb 4, 2025, 9:49 AM
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ask any big time fund managers who they're reading when they pour their coffee.
It ain't ####### Barron's, lol.
the doomporn/conspiracy bait is just that. I rarely read it. The analysis of the tape can't be touched and can give you an idea of what's going on without reading people's opinions.
But nobody watches tape, man.
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Brief description of a basic car salesman's standard tactic... the highball.
Feb 4, 2025, 10:23 AM
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2025-02-04/how-trumps-negotiating-strategies-can-make-you-money
In CA in '76, they didn't require price stickers on trucks and vans... I always bumped the price 2-3 grand before "giving my big discount".
Commissions are all about the gross.
Of course, I was only 18 and the legal age to sell autos was 21... but they liked "The Kid" and the sales.
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You being a lying car salesman is certainly on brand***
Feb 4, 2025, 11:33 AM
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Oh... if you only knew. I was top salesman in 2nd, 3rd, & 4th months there.
Feb 4, 2025, 3:50 PM
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They liked me. I did well to be an 18 y.o. 'drifter' from SC who just washed up in Fresno. Besides, the previous year of college wasn't working.
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Re: I wonder..... had Trump bothered to talk to Trudeau instead of ranting
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Feb 4, 2025, 9:25 AM
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It's going to be like this. Trump swings for the fences, gets home run or strikes out. Someone who like the general direction, blood pressure will be fine. One who hates trump and opens the browser to find the latest thing he said will live at 30,000 ft.
Playing golf in about 2018. My cart mate's phone buzzed. The text from his son started, "Did you hear what Trump just said?" Those two stayed mad all the time.
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Re: I wonder..... had Trump bothered to talk to Trudeau instead of ranting
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Feb 4, 2025, 9:36 AM
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2 weeks of work
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Re: I wonder..... had Trump bothered to talk to Trudeau instead of ranting
Feb 4, 2025, 2:22 PM
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What Tulsa said.
Trumpers will fall all over themselves because he's their messiah. Trump-haters will be outraged at everything.
We already did this for 4 years. Best to sit back this time, and be entertained by the lunatics.
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Canada's timing on their "plans" is interesting ... December 2024 ... lol.***
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Feb 4, 2025, 9:38 AM
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Re: Canada's timing on their "plans" is interesting ... December 2024 ... lol.***
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Feb 4, 2025, 9:41 AM
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Yes, the border security plan they announced in December was likely intended to appease Trump. The question is why Trump felt the need to play chicken with tariffs when he had already gotten what he supposedly wanted from Canada. He just wants to look like a tough guy to his supporters.
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Maybe they shouldn't have taken so long to do it... Basic admission.***
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Feb 4, 2025, 9:43 AM
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"so long"? Trump said he'd end the Ukraine war on day one
Feb 4, 2025, 10:28 AM
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What's taking so long?
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Why are you asking me...? Why is Zelensky asking where did all the money go?
Feb 4, 2025, 10:36 AM
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As to Trump, I think he's in negotiations with Ukraine to determine US reparations in the form of rare earth minerals. It's a new day.
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Why wouldn't Zelensky ask that?
Feb 4, 2025, 11:31 AM
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If there's a chance he can get more money because of Biden / Trump hate, I guess he'd say anything.
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Zelensky claims he 'only' got $77B... Those aren't the numbers Biden gave.***
Feb 4, 2025, 3:05 PM
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Before Trump = plans. After Trump = reality.***
Feb 4, 2025, 10:41 AM
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Re: Before Trump = plans. After Trump = reality.***
Feb 4, 2025, 11:32 AM
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Now THAT'S an appropriate pic for YOU!***
Feb 4, 2025, 3:06 PM
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Only bit that for sure didn't happen was Trump realizing he's an idiot.
Feb 4, 2025, 3:33 PM
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When faced with being wrong he doubles down, that's part of the playbook he learned from Roy Cohn. More likely Trudeau told Trump he'd do everything that he'd already agreed to in December without mentioning the fact he'd already agreed to do it. And Trump jumped at the chance because he saw how the markets were reacting and he got spooked.
You play Trump's laziness and ignorance, you can't win by shaming him because he can't be shamed. This also leads him to be easily manipulated by the last person who talks to him which we also saw when he finally talked with the Mexican President and Trudeau. They played him like a fiddle.
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"Trump's laziness"...? There goes your credibility.***
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