|
Replies: 26
| visibility 1115
|
Rival Killer [2998]
TigerPulse: 95%
33
|
Why are we subsidizing
2
Oct 29, 2025, 8:13 AM
|
|
fossil fuels?
Hey Trumpers, please let us know why we are still subsidizing oil and coal, which were new industries about 150 years ago.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/sep/09/fossil-fuels-subisidies-study
Coal is one of the most expensive forms of power generation for the grid. Substantially more expensive than renewables.
Don’t tell me we need it to power the grid. That is not true. We have cheaper cleaner forms of generation as replacement. What we need are politicians that have the huevos to say NO to the oil and gas industry.
Coal is filthy dirty and has significant Detrimental, health impacts, like death, for American citizens. The only reason the industry gets away with this is we can’t see it, i.e. we can’t see the pollution.
Pop up to West Virginia sometime and talk to some miners about black lung disease.
We’re talking about death and disability at a young age.
In the US government continues to provide tens of billions of subsidies.
|
|
|
|
 |
CU Medallion [19045]
TigerPulse: 100%
52
Posts: 20414
Joined: 2015
|
Why are we subsidizing Bammycare or anything due to "covid"?
1
Oct 29, 2025, 9:25 AM
|
|
Bammy: "keep your doctor, keep your plan, and premiums will go down 45%". LOL
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [16884]
TigerPulse: 100%
51
Posts: 10604
Joined: 2009
|
Why are you so dumb?
2
Oct 29, 2025, 9:31 AM
|
|
Ex ante crime prevention. I don't give a sheet about your made up Covid complaints but subsidizing poorer Americans is just common sense. Crime is often committed by desperate people; helping those people helps everyone.
But you don't really care for a real answer you're just a troll
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [19045]
TigerPulse: 100%
52
Posts: 20414
Joined: 2015
|
400% above poverty is now so poor you have to live a life of crime??***
Oct 29, 2025, 10:03 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [16884]
TigerPulse: 100%
51
Posts: 10604
Joined: 2009
|
When you make up a stat you're supposed to use 83%***
1
Oct 29, 2025, 12:12 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [19045]
TigerPulse: 100%
52
Posts: 20414
Joined: 2015
|
Go read about the expanded subsidies and come back less dumb.***
Oct 29, 2025, 1:52 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [16884]
TigerPulse: 100%
51
Posts: 10604
Joined: 2009
|
Go read some more on truth social and dont come back***
1
Oct 29, 2025, 2:10 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Athletic Dir [1132]
TigerPulse: 91%
26
|
Go buy yourself some solar panels
1
1
Oct 29, 2025, 9:31 AM
|
|
Or a windmill. Leave the rest of us alone.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [16884]
TigerPulse: 100%
51
Posts: 10604
Joined: 2009
|
What would you do for fun if you couldn't come here and yell at Libs?
2
Oct 29, 2025, 9:33 AM
|
|
I mean you can only watch the same reruns of Walker Texas Ranger so many times.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rival Killer [2998]
TigerPulse: 95%
33
|
Re: Go buy yourself some solar panels
1
Oct 29, 2025, 10:45 AM
[ in reply to Go buy yourself some solar panels ] |
|
I have.
Go buy YOURSELF some solar panels and a heat pump so YOU can quit using OUR tax dollars to destroy OUR planet.
Your plan is right on target. If oil companies and utility companies would support distributed energy generation, ie solar panels, geothermal, etc., then yes, they will eventually leave us alone and quit phukin up our planet.
Leave the rest of us alone.
God knows why the average American would support subsidies for oil and gas companies. If you want to be left alone, tell the oil companies they can’t have any anymore of your subsidy money.
Or, it might be easier to stay in your bunker. Stock up on food. Buy more guns and ammo turn on Fox News, lock the doors, they are coming to take your truck.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Athletic Dir [1132]
TigerPulse: 91%
26
|
"Our planet?"
1
Oct 29, 2025, 10:54 AM
|
|
Talk to doctor soon. Your meds need changing again, genius.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Athletic Dir [1132]
TigerPulse: 91%
26
|
****your*******
1
Oct 29, 2025, 10:57 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Warrior [4970]
TigerPulse: 100%
37
|
You needed two posts to get that little braindead r
Oct 29, 2025, 2:48 PM
|
|
response right? Bless your heart, at least you're on someone else's nuts today
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13678]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
Posts: 13027
Joined: 2013
|
Re: Why are we subsidizing
Oct 29, 2025, 11:18 AM
|
|
critical for national defense
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rival Killer [2998]
TigerPulse: 95%
33
|
Re: Why are we subsidizing
Oct 29, 2025, 11:49 PM
|
|
I don’t think you’re that stupid, but maybe, I don’t know.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [17393]
TigerPulse: 100%
51
Posts: 18658
Joined: 1999
|
I think this is what Elon Musk was referring to when
1
Oct 29, 2025, 11:48 AM
|
|
people say he just wants to protect tax credits and subsidies for his electric cars. He consistently says he’s happy to do away with them but let’s make it fair. Don’t subsidize fossil fuels and then talk about how much cheaper they are.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rival Killer [2998]
TigerPulse: 95%
33
|
Re: I think this is what Elon Musk was referring to when
Oct 29, 2025, 11:51 PM
|
|
Even w subsidies fossil fuels are more expensive when ya talk about powering the grid.
Take away oil subsidies and build the equivalent EV charging structure and fossil fuels are way more expensive than electricity.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [17393]
TigerPulse: 100%
51
Posts: 18658
Joined: 1999
|
Do you have any reference material on that?
Oct 30, 2025, 3:34 PM
|
|
Any links you can provide that lay out the math there?
I just like to understand these things.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rival Killer [2998]
TigerPulse: 95%
33
|
|
|
|
|
|
Solid Orange [1305]
TigerPulse: 97%
28
|
Re: Why are we subsidizing
Oct 29, 2025, 11:50 AM
|
|
It is simple, first for national defense. Second in 2022 they got $32b in subsidies but were returned $74B in royalties. It is one of the few handouts that generates a ROI.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Solid Orange [1305]
TigerPulse: 97%
28
|
Re: Why are we subsidizing
Oct 29, 2025, 11:52 AM
|
|
Royalties prior to Inflation Reduction Act were 12.5% and after 16.6%.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rival Killer [2998]
TigerPulse: 95%
33
|
Re: Why are we subsidizing
Oct 29, 2025, 11:58 PM
[ in reply to Re: Why are we subsidizing ] |
|
You really believe we need the quantity of fossil fuels we subsidize for national defense?
Your subsidized tank of gas at the pump is for national defense?
You really have no clue what happens around you.
Just vote for Americans next time around not an a fat orange un-American dirtbag that is swindling the American economy and American taxpayers.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Solid Orange [1305]
TigerPulse: 97%
28
|
Re: Why are we subsidizing
Oct 30, 2025, 6:04 AM
|
|
Yes and the reason why is all those planes, helicopters , Bradley’s, tanks , etc run on fossil fuels. They get really low mpg to boot. The strategic petroleum reserve was not established to let some fool lower gas prices like old Biden attempted.
Now if you stopped and educated yourself the 2nd reason I said is also true. The Federal government gets back more in royalties a year than what is handed out in subsidies each year.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rival Killer [2998]
TigerPulse: 95%
33
|
Re: Why are we subsidizing
Oct 30, 2025, 5:28 PM
|
|
I pity the fool that listens to you
OK, let’s say we get more royalties and subsidies, why are we providing subsidies to oil and gas?
100 years ago when most oil n gas subsidies were put in place, it made a lot of sense to subsidize oil and gas. Now it does not.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clemson Icon [24731]
TigerPulse: 100%
54
Posts: 19232
Joined: 1998
|
Coal is the most absurd fuel to support and subsidize
Oct 29, 2025, 12:39 PM
|
|
From both an environment and human health standpoint. Any proponents of coal are either personally profiting or technically uninformed.
Oil and gas economics are based on a global market and supply chain where margins control sources.
There is little downside to nuclear and renewables. Both should be embraced from both long term environmental and economic perspectives.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Champion [113065]
TigerPulse: 100%
65
Posts: 73085
Joined: 2002
|
We subsidize corn. It's been.an.industry for 2,000years.
Oct 29, 2025, 1:03 PM
|
|
Wheat. Probably 3000 years.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rival Killer [2998]
TigerPulse: 95%
33
|
Re: We subsidize corn. It's been.an.industry for 2,000years.
Oct 29, 2025, 11:53 PM
|
|
Ok so this causes u to support fossil fuel subsidies. Got it. LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies: 26
| visibility 1115
|
|
|
50
