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What Watson needs to do to win the Heisman
Nov 30, 2016, 4:50 PM
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I'm thinking for Watson to for SURE win next Saturday he needs to account for at least 5 TD's with no turnovers against VT. Also Clemson needs to win big league. Thoughts?
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Re: What Watson needs to do to win the Heisman
Nov 30, 2016, 4:56 PM
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300 yards passing and 100 yards rushing. 5-6 TDs and maybe. Still doubtful though.
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Re: What Watson needs to do to win the Heisman
Nov 30, 2016, 4:58 PM
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Mixed.
We win and especially win big - no doubts best situation for the team.
Some pundits argue that watson stands more to gain if it is a close game that he wins in 4th quarter…AND he has great stats like you say.
For me - Lets go win big….and watson has great stats.
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Re: What Watson needs to do to win the Heisman
Nov 30, 2016, 5:15 PM
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What Watson needs to do to win the Heisman is not worry about winning the Heisman.
History tells us that if you selfishly chase personal stats you're dead...and you get your team beat.
The only approach that will work is if Deshaun just plays, and the score is what the score is at the end, and his stats are what they are.
You can't chase stats, not if you're trying to lead your team to victory. It's absolutely the wrong mentality and it gets you beat. If you want to know why Lamar Jackson faded down the stretch, you could see how selfish he got, how he tried to make every play - even when it wasn't there - how he pressed and how he even managed to get his team beat not just by Houston but by arch-rival Kentucky...in their own house. That was Lamar Jackson trying to pad his stats, have his defining "Heisman Moment", and be the hero.
Keep in mind Lamar Jackson padded his stats courtesy of Bobby Petrino and his love of blowouts, but in addition to those three losses there were quite a few other games - against Duke, against lowly Virginia - where despite his gaudy numbers Jackson was more than a little hit-or-miss and almost got his team beat. Lamar Jackson may have run and passed for a gazillion yards, but he also misfired more than a little in critical moments.
I think - I hope! - that the Heisman voters will consider all that when they're making their vote.
You win the Heisman, if you do, by not worrying about winning the Heisman, and the votes are what the votes are.
I do know I personally would absolutely not trade Deshaun Watson even for Lamar Jackson. Watson's a 67% passer versus Jackson's 57%, and while he's run less this year he's passed for more yards than in even 2015 and seems if anything to be playing his best football down the stretch. He deals the ball around to a rather amazing variety of targets - a whopping 11 different receivers caught balls for Clemson against South Carolina - and he can make any throw, to any receiver on the field, at any time, whereas the Louisville offense just way too often turns into The Lamar Jackson show because he's too reliant on his wheels and his arm can be spotty in the clutch, and if you slow the Lamar Jackson Show down it's curtains for the whole Louisville offense.
Deshaun's not quite as flashy - strange to be saying that about Deshaun - but at the end of the day he's the better QB and the better player; Lamar Jackson, for all his flash, still has a few holes in his skillset. Which is exactly why Clemson's at 11-1 and playing for the ACC title and a second straight spot in the playoffs while Louisville is sitting at three losses and probably even fumbled away a New Year's Six bowl.
Hopefully the voters will look past the PlayStation numbers and evaluate the actual quality.
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375 yds passing and 6 passing tds gives him a 4000 yard 40 td passing season
Nov 30, 2016, 5:51 PM
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Plus on national TV. That would probably win it.
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Re: What Watson needs to do to win the Heisman
Nov 30, 2016, 6:05 PM
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I think he's closer than we think. I have read several articles supporting him. We need a win for sure and no more than 1 turnover. He should have received the award last year !!
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Re: What Watson needs to do to win the Heisman
Nov 30, 2016, 6:43 PM
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I've heard some say that OU's Baker Mayfield is #2 in the Heisman race, so OU might need to lose in addition to a great showing by DW4 in the ACCCG.
I can't believe that anyone would even mention BM after CLEMSON has destroyed OU the past 2 years. I'm surprised BM can still stand upright after the Ben Boulware hit.
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Re: What Watson needs to do to win the Heisman
Nov 30, 2016, 6:45 PM
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Sounds pretty close.
I know Watson has played the heisman talk down this year, but he wants it- No doubt.
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