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TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Spot on but I have F grades across the board.
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Sep 13, 2025, 4:24 PM
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Yes. We iced our own kicker! ###?! Tech did what they wanted when they wanted. Horrible. We look like Syracuse. Not Clemson.
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Re: Spot on but I have F grades across the board.
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Sep 13, 2025, 8:04 PM
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BUT we didn't ice their kicker at the end of the game.
Kept the T/O in our pocket.
Great coaching call.
Thanks Dabo.
NOT.
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Re: Spot on but I have F grades across the board.
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Sep 13, 2025, 9:27 PM
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Dabo,
Leadership, business, sports, military, starts and ends with the CEO, Head Coach, President.
Dabo, step up or step aside.
Later, Nater
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Re: Spot on but I have F grades across the board.
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Sep 13, 2025, 9:53 PM
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Dabo,
Leadership, business, sports, military, starts and ends with the CEO, Head Coach, President.
Dabo, step up or step aside.
Later, Nater
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 4:24 PM
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3rd year coordinator 4 year quarter back yall tell me
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 4:25 PM
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Rob spence just worse
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 5:05 PM
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Not By Much
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 9:27 PM
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Dabo,
Leadership, business, sports, military, starts and ends with the CEO, Head Coach, President.
Dabo, step up or step aside.
Later, Nater
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 9:28 PM
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Dabo,
Leadership, business, sports, military, starts and ends with the CEO, Head Coach, President.
Dabo, step up or step aside.
Later, Nater
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 9:53 PM
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Dabo,
Leadership, business, sports, military, starts and ends with the CEO, Head Coach, President.
Dabo, step up or step aside.
Later, Nater
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 9:27 PM
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Dabo,
Leadership, business, sports, military, starts and ends with the CEO, Head Coach, President.
Dabo, step up or step aside.
Later, Nater
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 9:54 PM
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Dabo,
Leadership, business, sports, military, starts and ends with the CEO, Head Coach, President.
Dabo, step up or step aside.
Later, Nater
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
Sep 15, 2025, 5:55 PM
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Give it a break, ##### I’m tired of seeing it….!!!!!!!
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
Sep 14, 2025, 10:38 AM
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3rd year coordinator 4 year quarter back yall tell me
Top 5 in staff payroll. Dabo makes more than the entire staff of some teams we play. GA Tech is example A. Brent key makes 2.8 million per year. University needs to pass regulations to stop any future 10 year deals. No way to forcast performance over that timeline.
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i really wonder if we play the best players on the roster
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Sep 13, 2025, 4:25 PM
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and I don't understand why HS recruits would commit to Clemson when they will go .750, no NIL, no playing time at Clemson, and won't practice get to play in the SEC or B1G bmshowtine games
I feel bad for Amare Adams and Gidieon Davidson . they are impact players that play like Sammy Brown last year when they get minutes
Davidson is Spillers Wes Goodwin Sammy
Adams is Easons Wes Goodwin Sammy
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Re: i really wonder if we play the best players on the roster
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Sep 13, 2025, 9:27 PM
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Dabo,
Leadership, business, sports, military, starts and ends with the CEO, Head Coach, President.
Dabo, step up or step aside.
Later, Nater
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Re: i really wonder if we play the best players on the roster
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Sep 13, 2025, 9:28 PM
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Dabo,
Leadership, business, sports, military, starts and ends with the CEO, Head Coach, President.
Dabo, step up or step aside.
Later, Nater
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Re: i really wonder if we play the best players on the roster
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Sep 13, 2025, 9:53 PM
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Dabo,
Leadership, business, sports, military, starts and ends with the CEO, Head Coach, President.
Dabo, step up or step aside.
Later, Nater
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typical homer positive spin on a loss.
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Sep 13, 2025, 4:28 PM
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it was worse than that, just like the YTD.
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7-5 Team At Best
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Sep 13, 2025, 4:28 PM
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At the start of the season, I predicted a final record of 8-4. After LSU and Troy, I amended that to 7-5. We have the players, so it has to be the coaching. The defense is fine IMO, the offense has been a mess for several years, and the hiring of Garette Riley has been a disaster. Dabo--since he cannot fix it, find somebody who can. And it's time to embrace to portal--BIGLY!
--ClemsonSteve -- TigerNet Member since 1998!
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Re: 7-5 Team At Best - - remainder of schedule W / L predictions
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Sep 13, 2025, 5:35 PM
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Sure (?) wins - 4: Syracuse (they’re bad & it’s a home game); UNC (road); BC (road); Furman
Likely win - 1: Duke (Duke is no where near as good as GA Tech, and it’s a home game).
50 / 50 games - 1: Louisville (good deal worse than last year, but it’s a road game and their game-day coaching is better)
Likely losses (but not “sure thing” losses) - 2: SMU (it’s a home game, so you never know); S.Carolina (they’re not as good as last year, and they strangely tend to choke at home when playing us)
Sure loss - 1: FSU has better players and (much better) OC -&- comparable DC. Home game advantage win’t be enough for us.
Lower tier bowl game - probable loss; we have a bunch of NFL Senior prospects (some borderline, but that won’t matter) that will opt-out and a couple of Junior studs that will also opt out (maybe a third if A.Williams can get in some PT in final 5 games) who are also like.y to opt out. Figure that we’ll have a 50 / 50 shot at beating some Sun Belt champ or a .500 type Big 12 opponent.
Putting it together, we’ll win 6 more games, not counting the bowl.
Prediction: 8 - 4 season, with luck (depends on the quality or lack thereof for our bowl opponent) we’ll get to 9 wins.
Worst reasonable case: we best either Duke or Louisville … but not both … to get to 5 additional regular season wins (to go along with the aforementioned 4 ‘sure win’ games). This gives us a 7 - 5 regular season, and then we lose the Nobody Cares Bowl for a final record of 7 - 6.
Good times.
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Re: 7-5 Team At Best - - remainder of schedule W / L predictions
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Sep 13, 2025, 8:41 PM
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You’re wrong. Angeli is the leading passer in the country. You’ll beat us but we are far from bad
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Re: 7-5 Team At Best - - remainder of schedule W / L predictions
Sep 15, 2025, 8:09 PM
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Syracuse will win with Dabo at our helm.
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Re: 7-5 Team At Best
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Dabo,
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Dabo, step up or step aside.
Later, Nater
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Re: 7-5 Team At Best
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Dabo,
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Dabo, step up or step aside.
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 4:29 PM
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Those grades are fair.
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
Sep 13, 2025, 7:57 PM
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Nah. Offense b- Not D
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 4:29 PM
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2023 Klubfoot is stinking it up
Put Randall back at WR and let Gideon feast
Take the play sheet away from Dabo
The ACC command center has made it clear that we will lose all challenges
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
Sep 13, 2025, 5:17 PM
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The ACC command center has made it clear that we will lose all challenges
Lol that is a profoundly stupid statement. Good grief
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
Sep 13, 2025, 6:07 PM
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In what way?
We are never going to catch a break from this league. To deny that is delusional asf. I’ve watched how the ACC has treated Clemson since 1978. It’s not good.
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 4:32 PM
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Someone said had we substituted rather than just let Georgia Tech lineup and kick a field goal, the clock would’ve run out on its own. Is that true?
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 4:36 PM
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That’s a good point, but I think they stop the clock from running more after a certain point. Not calling a timeout is a win-lose. Kickers are weird. The rush could’ve helped or hurt. And the ball curving back inside the uprights was a wild thing to see. Either way I think by that point it was just no layer what, it was coming down to the kicker or going to OT
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 5:38 PM
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Nope. They had used up all three before going forward with their ‘Fire Drill’ FG routine on that 4th down.
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If all grades are not F you are on mescaline***
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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I respectfully disagree on all grades. We averaged 6.2 yards per play which is 100% winning football. What we could not do was enough of was stop Haynes King who was the best player on the field. Georgia Tech is now in the drivers seat to play in the ACC Championship game and are a tough matchup. This game was always going to be a last minute game and that shows that with our total offense gaining 381-365. The big difference was they ran 9 more plays than we did and the turnovers were huge. Grade on the curve and Offense, Defense and Coaching all get a C.
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 4:45 PM
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You are a very kind person. Sorry grading on the curve with a program like ours is totally unacceptable at smacks of a Hatfield team. If Dabo isn’t in players and coaches faces this pm including his own, kiss it goodbye. #soft
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching***
Sep 13, 2025, 4:45 PM
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Well, this would've only saved seconds, but we could've used them, I believe ...
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Sep 13, 2025, 4:46 PM
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that Ian Schefflein actually "caught" that ball for a TD and that that should've been reviewed. But what actually lost Clemson this game was Dabo running so much time off of the clock whilst going down the field in the pin-ultimate drive. I did the math and knew that it wasn't going to work, and I'm not a football coach...just a relatively smart guy. I still love my Tigers and respect each and every one of them. They can and will get it together before this season is over!
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Re: Well, this would've only saved seconds, but we could've used them, I believe ...
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Sep 13, 2025, 5:49 PM
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Our offense is not good enough to simultaneously manipulate the clock (I.e., either speed up or slow down) and also be relied upon to score … especially if it a TD that must be accomplished.
We rightfully depended on our defense, which is far far better than our mediocre offense, to hold off Tech and get us to OT. Unfortunately, our DBs were not up to the task of covering GA Tech’s mediicre WRs nor of consistently tackling Tech’s RBs who caught short routes and then got respectable Yards-After-Catch. If our DBs were better, then our DL & LBs would have neutralized a one dimensional / run-only Tech offense.
They got pass completions when they needed them. Then they had our D guessing just enough for their QB run game to succeed.
It was one heck of a game.
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Yes. I thought the grading was a bit tough. I would give the D a C-. Although the D line that is supposed to be all world is soft and Woodaz is a liability at this point at LB. The offense is a D although there were some positive signs. Those 2 turnovers were most likely the difference in the game.
Coaching is the glaring issue with this team. To completely go away from the run through a portion of the second half was inexcusable. Through 3 games I am not crazy about Allen. I like a little more of an aggressive style defense but the D has been above average. I had zero confidence that this defense would stop GT on the final drive and this was proven out.
Also, I do not see the player led team that Dabo speaks of.
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 5:22 PM
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Our linebackers have not been able to cover a running back or tight end in a long time.
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 5:51 PM
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Barrett Carter was good at pass coverage.
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Sep 13, 2025, 4:40 PM
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He got it right. We were a mess.
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching***
Sep 13, 2025, 4:46 PM
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Easy to grade F
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
Sep 13, 2025, 5:01 PM
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Most of y’alls two sets of lips are showing.
Depending on mostly teen age males to make you happy is a dependency that needs to be reevaluated . Some of you will be up all night replaying the game cut your restless night.
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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100% Agree Especially Coaching🌞
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Coaching - F ..hard to win when you’re out coached (at least we’ve been consistent) ..’nuff said ..
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
Sep 13, 2025, 5:05 PM
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Pushing away from the table: D-
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B+...Bad plus terrible***
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Dear DavidHood®,
I admire your fearless assessments.
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 5:20 PM
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What’s the point in buttering up these supposed all-world recruits for them to watch the game from the sidelines?
Where’s Amare? Gideon? At least have one package that utilizes these freshmen to give them live reps and build confidence. Tired of seeing games coached from a phonebooth. Stop coaching to not lose
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
Sep 13, 2025, 5:53 PM
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Amare got in and, while not distinguishing himself, he did not embarrass himself.
Gideon needs to learn how to pass protect.
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 9:10 PM
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Amare got in and, while not distinguishing himself, he did not embarrass himself.
Gideon needs to learn how to pass protect.
Unfortunately you can say that about all the RBs. Randall ignored the blitzing safety once again today. Adams might be a better pass protector but doesn’t play much. They really should go to a two back scheme on occasion. Cade refuses to scan the routes of more than one side of the field anyhow.
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 6:47 PM
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I went on ChatGPT and asked how many 4–5 stars Clemson has compared to Georgia Tech. 56 vs 12. This is not about talent. This about coaching!
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
Sep 13, 2025, 7:16 PM
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Yep that’s the way I saw it…. Something is missing.
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 7:19 PM
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Also with all that we running straight up the middle where was Woods. 1st round draft choice.
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Rival Killer [2646]
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You need to do more analysis on coaching..
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Sep 13, 2025, 8:00 PM
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There is something missing with this coaching staff.
Are our coaches capable of analyzing talent?
No one can tell you what our offensive identity it.
Where is the intensity on D that we were hearing about duringcamp...why is the D not playing with the intent to do bad things to the opposing team?
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All-Time Great [91980]
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I want to know why we could not have taken our time substituting, since they
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Sep 13, 2025, 8:49 PM
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had a bunch of substitutions. The rule says in that situation, the officials should hold the ball until the defensive team is ready. I posted the rule in another post earlier. We should have been able to force the clock to zero, and the game into overtime.
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MVP [508]
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 9:27 PM
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Dabo,
Leadership, business, sports, military, starts and ends with the CEO, Head Coach, President.
Dabo, step up or step aside.
Later, Nater
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MVP [508]
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 9:53 PM
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Dabo,
Leadership, business, sports, military, starts and ends with the CEO, Head Coach, President.
Dabo, step up or step aside.
Later, Nater
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Game Changer [1748]
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
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Sep 13, 2025, 9:56 PM
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After those grades, Dabo may not invite you to dinner..
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All-American [598]
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: THE DIFFERENCE
Sep 14, 2025, 9:09 AM
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TURNOVERS BY KLUBNIK, Many errors in judgment and timing by Klubnik. Put someone else at QB. Ricardo Jones was burned A LOT. If he cannot learn quickly, he should be replaced. GT picked on him throughout the game...at the beginning and at the end. THOSE things were the difference.
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Dynasty Maker [3315]
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: THE DIFFERENCE
Sep 14, 2025, 9:54 AM
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You dont really want to put Vinzina behind THAT offensive line do you?? And I’m sorry but I’m afraid our DC hire was a bust. There were Penn State fans posting “Thank you”s on the board after his hire. Our receivers run long routes when the QB has no time. Receivers don’t seem to cut off routes for the blitz as they don’t recognize them….and if memory serves me correct, the TE is allowed to catch the ball. The. One INT I don’t think Klubnik could see from behind Randall. Cade is listed as 6’2” but I think he’s more 6’1”. Also what happened to that “deep” wide receiver room we kept hearing about?…and how many of us coaches picked Randall to be THE RB for this year? Our coordinators are not doing their jobs well . In the past, Dabo has shown he’d cut them loose. We’ll see how it pans out
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All-American [598]
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: THE DIFFERENCE
Sep 14, 2025, 12:27 PM
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Yes, I do want to see Vizzina behind that offensive line. If Vizzina doesn't get it done, put someone else in. Sacks have been 2,1,0 during the last three games. It's a function of delivery time and decisions. CK has 3 TDs and 3 INTs the last 3 games. Not a good start. If CK does not fumble OR does not throw the INT, Clemson beats GT by three to fourteen points.
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MVP [509]
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
Sep 14, 2025, 1:01 PM
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Yep - Tech just wanted it more
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MVP [509]
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Re: TNET: Final Grades: Tigers score low on offense and defense, lower on coaching
Sep 14, 2025, 1:03 PM
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Totally agree Coach needs to Let VZ get the start. IF Cade is needed, he's better coming in second anyways
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