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Re: Mexico leader speaks.
Feb 21, 2025, 12:38 PM
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Uh oh, she’s about to be a globalist dictator with poor poll numbers
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105597]
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Per capita, US-made guns kill more Mexicans than fentanyl kills Americans.
Feb 21, 2025, 12:45 PM
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2023 per capita murder rate in Mexico was 23.3 murders/100K
2022 US all opioid deaths were 22.7 fatal overdoses/100K
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
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So all murders were committed with American-made weapons... Suuuuuure.
Feb 21, 2025, 12:55 PM
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Your Logic seems a bit illogical.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105597]
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74% of all guns in Mexico come from the US.
Feb 21, 2025, 1:19 PM
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93% of all gun deaths in Mexico are homicides. Fentanyl makes up 70% of drug overdose deaths in the US.
US population is 340 million
Mexico population is 129 million
So yeah, US guns, FOR MEXICO, is every bit as deadly a problem as Mexican fentanyl is to Americans. Thanks to the new labels from the administration, that means the US is the largest arms supplier to Mexican terrorists. 74% of their guns come from the US.
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And both the guns and the fentanyl are illegally acquired/distributed by cartels
Feb 21, 2025, 1:34 PM
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Those cartels are about to get a new reality. I really don't see what you're arguing on behalf.
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Re: Fentanyl doesn't kill people. People kill people.***
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Feb 21, 2025, 1:10 PM
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And the great Charlton Heston once said, " apes don't kill people, apes with guns kill people " according to Robin Williams.
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52nd state?***
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Feb 21, 2025, 12:39 PM
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Re: 52nd state?***
Feb 21, 2025, 3:04 PM
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beautiful beaches
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She's gonna be really pixxed when those drones start Reaping...***
Feb 21, 2025, 12:56 PM
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Re: Mexico leader speaks.
Feb 21, 2025, 12:56 PM
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Well, whooptie chit! I guess we'll have to live without avocados.
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Plenty in Cali if they'll just give them water...***
Feb 21, 2025, 12:58 PM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105597]
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Well, minus 2 billion gallons now.
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Feb 21, 2025, 1:24 PM
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The water Trump released for the wildfires in Los Angeles, could never, would never, and can not get to Los Angeles. It CAN get to the central valley, which depends on that water for.....yeah.....anyway.
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Exactly. I once sold a fleet deal to a major seed/feed company south of Fresno
Feb 21, 2025, 1:45 PM
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for 5 trucks and 3 cars ('strippers')... Met the guy in a Smugglers Inn while trying to hit on his wife. He had inherited one of the larger seed/ feeds in the San Joaquin. He happened to live a few doors down from the owner of the dealership... Real coup for me. Probably helped me keep my job when they found out I was only 18 and had "altered" my ID... You had to be 21 in Cali and have an occupational license at the time.
I changed a '7' to a '2' on a temporary DL I picked up while crossing through Texas... I miss the pre-computer days... ;~)
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Re: Mexico leader speaks.
Feb 21, 2025, 12:57 PM
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I suppose it would matter what "supplying" them with weapons means. If our govt was secretly sending them weapons, as we've seen happen in the past, then she may have a point but if she's just talking about them being manufactured here equaling aiding and abetting terrorists she's she's bat #### crazy.
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Re: Mexico leader speaks.
Feb 21, 2025, 1:12 PM
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Yep. Operation Fast and Furious was a huge success. Said no one.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105597]
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Here you go.
Feb 21, 2025, 1:28 PM
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Enlighten yourself.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/supreme-court-to-hear-mexico-lawsuit-against-u.s-gunmakers
I will save you some time....
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-1141/337036/20250110145559191_Mexico%20Response%20Brief%201-10-25%20Final.pdf
That is exactly what Mexico alleges.
Petitioners deliberately sell their guns through
dealers who are known to disproportionately sell
firearms that are recovered at crime scenes in Mexico.
They provide these red-flag dealers with the firearms
that Petitioners know cartels prefer, designing and
marketing those firearms in ways they know cater to
the cartels. They embrace distribution practices they
know enable these red-flag dealers to illegally sell to
cartel traffickers. And they intentionally do all this to
boost their bottom lines. This constitutes classic
aiding and abetting, in violation of federal law.
By aiding and abetting violations of laws designed
to keep guns out of criminals’ hands, Petitioners’
actions have predictably caused guns to fall into
criminals’ hands. And those criminals have—again,
predictably—caused Mexico harm, including millions
of dollars in damage to its military and police
property. That is a textbook example of proximate
cause, as every major treatise recognizes and
PLCAA’s text confirms.
A unanimous First Circuit panel properly applied
these principles and held that Mexico plausibly
pleaded at least one claim that fit PLCAA’s predicate
exception. That narrow ruling, at a preliminary stage,
on fact-intensive issues commonly reserved for juries,
merely means that Mexico overcame one of the many
hurdles standing between itself and relief
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Is she going to try and sue in US court??
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Feb 21, 2025, 1:23 PM
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If so - good luck with that (see Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) signed into US law in 2005). If she is taking US Arms Companies to court in Mexico - again - good luck with that....
Now... if Mexico's Mrs Socialist wet dream has proof that US firearms companies are breaking US law by intentionally selling firearms to drug cartels - provide the US with proof and sue those companies into bankruptcy and jail their CEO's.
Perhaps if she wants to sue someone she should start with the US ATF, DOJ, and Eric Holder. After all - they knowingly allowed some 2000 illegal arms sales to go through to the drug cartels in their ill conceived "Fast and Furious" operation.
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Re: Is she going to try and sue in US court??
Feb 21, 2025, 2:04 PM
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I think you mean "so called" cartels
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Shesdefending cartels..?***
Feb 21, 2025, 2:31 PM
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Ahem
Feb 21, 2025, 2:44 PM
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all that sounds good, except guns don't move themselves to Mexico and don't shoot people by themselves.
So let's get the people actually responsible for illegally moving the guns and that will be a step in the right direction.
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Exactly W T F are you asserting,
Feb 21, 2025, 2:48 PM
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that US gun manufacturers are knowingly selling guns to cartels who gun manufacturers know use them to kill people? Really? You believe this?
Okay, fine. If so, then let's prove it and shut the manufacturers down. Otherwise it's all bullchit and go after the criminals and not the gun mfgrs.
Why don't you just post - "let's just follow the law"
Lame.
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Simple solution... Just freeze their bank assets and prosecute the bankers.
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Feb 21, 2025, 2:52 PM
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That'll stop it in its tracks REAL QUICK. We can start with Mayorkas' buddies.
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