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TigerNet Zenith XVII [∞]
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Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 2:51 PM
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As I've hinted at, those inside the program believe that QB's coach Brandon Streeter will be bumped to offensive coordinator and Kyle Richardson will move to the on-field staff. It appears everything is trending in that direction. I've been told no announcements until "it all shakes out" but it certainly appears it is all shaking out.
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All-Time Great [97694]
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^^ Easy & quick fix @ OC which we need pronto!
Dec 10, 2021, 2:53 PM
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Go Tigers..Jeep ROCKing!
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Paw Warrior [4989]
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 2:54 PM
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SMH-Then I expect much of the same on O!
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All-American [581]
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We were 4th, 4th and 3rd in scoring offense the last 3 years
Dec 10, 2021, 6:33 PM
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And last year we had the best passing offense (ypg) in Clemson history. So "much of the same" would be good, no?
This year we fell off, for reasons not related to playcalling.
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Hall of Famer [8278]
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What a simpleton response
Dec 10, 2021, 6:52 PM
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What we had was a bunch of first round talent running rough-shod over a defenseless cupcake league. Now you can say it was their recruiting, but it #### sure wasnt the mind-blowing offensive scheme and play calling.
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All-American [581]
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The stats I provided were cumulative against the
Dec 10, 2021, 7:10 PM
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3rd, 3rd, and 2nd highest rated overall SOS rankings.
We achieved those scoring averages against some of the best overall cumulative SOS ratings in the country when you look at the totality of games played.
It's not like other offensive powerhouses were doing it against better defenses.
Look at: Teamrankings.com
Our offense has been one of the most consistent in the country, and the opponent defenses are accounted for.
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Re: We were 4th, 4th and 3rd in scoring offense the last 3 years
Dec 10, 2021, 7:33 PM
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This year was a case of Clemson’s offense falling in line with the rest of the ACC in terms of talent. And when that occurred and we couldn’t out-talent folks , Clemson’s offense was at the bottom of the worst P5 conference in CFB.
And the issue here is, these are numbers that are not excused away by your feelings
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Clemson Conqueror [11128]
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What are you basing that claim on... "worst P5 conference"
Dec 10, 2021, 10:10 PM
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The ACC had more teams in the top 20 of the final ranking than any other conference!
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 2:55 PM
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The passing game was terrible, and DJ regressed badly. These are all Streeter's responsibility.
Why is he getting this promotion?
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Paw Master [17864]
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yes man***
Dec 10, 2021, 2:59 PM
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 3:04 PM
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isn't maybe the issue DJ and not Streeter perhaps? Can he make him be more accurate? A lot of pass plays that were called had the ball sail 10 feet over the players heads. I heard they stressed footwork and mechanics and all that but sometimes the person executing has to do his job as well.
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 3:07 PM
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Its timing and repetition and DJ was out there looking like he didn't know where the receivers were going half the time and panic ran after the 1st guy he stared down was covered. I dont see any part of DJs game that improved this year. Not one.
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Paw Master [17864]
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he didnt look at the coot game
Dec 10, 2021, 3:10 PM
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he was awful
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With a bum knee and finger on his throwing hand
Dec 10, 2021, 3:13 PM
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this year, DJ either improves or the new stud takes his job. And the new stud signed up to play for Streeter and Clemson
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Paw Master [17864]
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he didnt look good before the knee
Dec 10, 2021, 3:15 PM
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and finger injury either..just like those who blame our season on injures..we looked like #### against sc state in week two with no injuries
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Ring of Honor [21297]
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Against SC State the offense scored on it's first four
Dec 10, 2021, 6:55 PM
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possessions. After that the dogs were called off. I said DJ has to improve to play next year. He did improve incrementally this year. QB is the key, this year he has legit competition
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All-American [581]
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You'd be lying if you said you didn't see some improvement
Dec 11, 2021, 12:42 AM
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in DJ as the year went along. Yes he still had ups and downs, but overall he managed the games better.
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Paw Master [17864]
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im not lying..his stats show he didnt improve***
Dec 11, 2021, 11:40 AM
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Scout Team [157]
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 3:12 PM
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people say Kyle Richardson ran the air raid offense as a head coach in high school we might see more of that offense being run next season along with a power running game
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Clemson Icon [26664]
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This I would like...***
Dec 10, 2021, 3:52 PM
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 4:11 PM
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He was awesome at Northwestern! Can’t wait to see what he can do on the field !!!
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Letterman [157]
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 4:11 PM
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He was awesome at Northwestern! Can’t wait to see what he can do on the field !!!
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 7:24 PM
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How exactly do you blend air raid and power run?
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All-TigerNet [10825]
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Chad Morris has some power runs out of
Dec 10, 2021, 10:05 PM
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The spread
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 3:59 PM
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Now that he might get promoted e eryone will see a different streeter
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I am concerned that “Clemson family” and “our culture”
Dec 10, 2021, 7:09 PM
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have resulted in an echo chamber the last few years, to the point that outside ideas and suggestions are not present.
I’m not saying that this can’t work, but it’s a huge risk and I don’t feel great about it.
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 7:17 PM
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The passing game was terrible, and DJ regressed badly. These are all Streeter's responsibility.
Why is he getting this promotion?
Against a pathetic ACC schedule the offense finished 95th. DJ finished 108 out of 112 that were rated. I know DJ is terrible - the numbers speak for themselves. The optics of a promotion from this QB debacle are hard to swallow. So Street is better than any potential OC candidate that will be let go from the NFL at years end? Sorry, I'm not buying it. The talent is deep enough to roll the helmets on the field next year and win at least 8 or 9. Time will tell beyond that based on the players we can attract. That's been Dabo's strength in the past so I hope it can carry us into the future.
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Letterman [257]
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 3:08 PM
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Time will tell if this is a good decision, but we have to have trust in Dabo.
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just hope a certain o line coach retires
Dec 10, 2021, 3:16 PM
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nm
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 3:19 PM
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Personally, I'd go after someone like David Cutliffe. He is a QB whisperer and tight with the Manning family which couldn't hurt in the recruitment of Arch Manning and I believe he still has an innovative offensive mind that could be applied to tailoring a new offense for us. I know he and Dabo were once pretty tight. I have no idea if he would even consider an OC role but that is the kind of individual I wish we were going after. I trust Dabo but I'm also very concerned with the inexperience of the people taking on these roles. Promoting from within is great as long as they really have proven themselves and have the years under the belt in a variety of cycles to show for it and not just ridden on someone else's coattails.
Losing both coordinators, the AD and now some key recruits have made for a humbling month. Maybe in the end it all works out and we will look back on this as a blessing in disguise. Let's hope...
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Game Day Hero [4408]
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Let's Remember what Streeter did with Stoudt.
Dec 10, 2021, 3:19 PM
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He hasn't suddenly forgotten how to coach. My .02
Go Tigers! You either ALL IN or out!
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Tiger Titan [47444]
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That was one game of good game planning.
Dec 10, 2021, 7:10 PM
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That wasn’t progressive development over several years in the program.
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All-American [581]
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Wrong.***
Dec 11, 2021, 12:34 AM
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All-American [581]
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Correct, plus TL's and DW's numbers went up every year
Dec 11, 2021, 12:33 AM
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Streeter is a sharp dude. Another interesting factoid is that he became the passing game coordinator in 2020, which just so happens to be the best passing offense (ypg) in Clemson history.
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Re: Correct, plus TL's and DW's numbers went up every year
Dec 11, 2021, 9:33 AM
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That’s because our rushing attack dropped from 6.4 yards per carry to 4.5. We avg 90 yards less in rushing and 60 yards more in passing. We had about 7 more passing attempts per game
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Re: Correct, plus TL's and DW's numbers went up every year
Dec 11, 2021, 11:53 AM
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Bingo! And not to mention the #1 overall pick in his third year in the system.
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CU Guru [1568]
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Re: Correct, plus TL's and DW's numbers went up every year
Dec 11, 2021, 9:46 AM
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That’s because our rushing attack dropped from 6.4 yards per carry to 4.5. We avg 90 yards less in rushing and 60 yards more in passing. We had about 7 more passing attempts per game
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Orange Blooded [2723]
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Re: Let's Remember what Streeter did with Stoudt.
Dec 11, 2021, 11:51 AM
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Good grief this is the most ridiculous narrative on this board. It shows how little most people on this board pay attention to the game beyond just Clemson.
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Re: Let's Remember what Streeter did with Stoudt.
Dec 11, 2021, 11:55 AM
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wow who would expect that on a site called TigerNet?
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 3:27 PM
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As long as we keep the no block bubble screens bubble screens where no one gets blocked....
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 11:19 PM
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Oh gosh, I hate that play!! Worked great when Sammy did it, Artavis did it good and sometimes with Rodgers… but sometimes this year… I questioned like why run that if the receivers won’t block?!?!?
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I never saw anything like it..
Dec 11, 2021, 12:37 AM
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What in the world could have possibly been going on in Ajou Ajou's head on some of those plays? Just stood there and watched, literally.
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 6:19 PM
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Is this promotion more because he is the best for the job or the best available for the job? Do you see this as a 1 year trial where if the 2022 offense looks like 2021 then we go out and get a big name?
Like most, I would have preferred a splashy hire at both DC and OC, but not sure at this point who we could poach. Maybe both roles are somewhat interim and Dabo keeps an eye on next year’s coaching carousel.
Also, for all of the finger pointing on where to place blame this season, I don’t see it as being on any one person or a single sole reason. DJ was probably overrated and not quite ready, the O-Line MAC quality and never stable, our WR/TE corps was a MASH unit, and our starting RB was benched/run off for reasons I’m still not clear on.
Perfect storm of stink.
Hopefully we don’t have any/many more departures prior to the bowl and can scrap out a win. 10 wins in a nightmare season isn’t the end of the world, just the expectations are much much higher now.
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Ring of Honor [21297]
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The "starting" RB left because he was beat out
Dec 11, 2021, 8:44 AM
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By two guys as the starter. Not sure what needs clarified in regards to that
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Re: The "starting" RB left because he was beat out
Dec 11, 2021, 8:50 AM
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No issues with LJ leaving. Sounded like he did not have the mindset to compete and we have some good ones right now. We went from WRU to now our RB’s were the strength behind this year’s offense.
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Re: The "starting" RB left because he was beat out
Dec 11, 2021, 8:57 AM
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Funny how a lot of the same people that bash Dabo for his loyalty and internal promotions think he “ran off” a RB whose best claim to the starting position was his tenure….
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Ring of Honor [21297]
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And blamed CJ for having 3 guys
Dec 11, 2021, 9:00 AM
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better than Lyn J.
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Paw Warrior [4833]
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 9:53 PM
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I’m okay with Brandon Streeter getting the Offensive Coordinator position but I hope Coach Swinney atleast looks around and puts feelers out.
We say “The Best is the Standard”. Maybe that’s Streeter. I’ll give Dabo the benefit of the doubt I just hope we do our due diligence in the process of finding out who really is the best. Let’s see who else is interested in coming to Clemson and leading our offense. I bet we would be pretty surprised at some of the names! (Names that have a lot of good experience calling plays)
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Orange Beast [6476]
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Great, instead of only QBs regressing, Streeter can
Dec 10, 2021, 11:14 PM
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have more autonomy to make sure that the ENTIRE offense regresses. ####! ACT LIKE A FOOTBALL TEAM THAT IS NOT ENTRY LEVEL COACHING FOR ONCE!
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Re: Great, instead of only QBs regressing, Streeter can
Dec 11, 2021, 9:03 AM
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Yea! Just look how poorly we’ve done lately. It all started when they hired that bum that had never even been a coordinator as head coach!!!! Let’s bring Lou Holtz back!
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Re: Great, instead of only QBs regressing, Streeter can
Dec 11, 2021, 9:18 AM
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Uh, Streeter is an experienced OC that had a lot of success…at 2 different schools. If you remember, Chad Morris had 1 year of OC experience when he was hired.
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Rival Killer [2909]
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I prefer, in order
Dec 10, 2021, 11:26 PM
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Joe Brady
Willy Korn
Chad Morris
Go OC
Manny Diaz for DC
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 10, 2021, 11:33 PM
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Whole program needs a shakeup
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 11, 2021, 9:00 AM
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Not really. Just need to lose some “fans”.
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 11, 2021, 9:12 AM
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I guess “we’ll see” is appropriate here. We saw how Elliot was caught blind in the UGA game. Its part of his job to be adept at preseason evals, and he grew alot as a coach this year. Trust that no team he leads will take the field with a QB incapable of even the basics, he learned that at our expense the hard way. He adapted by the end of the season after battling the common problem of injuries and changing personel to a great degree. I don’t know Streeter’s mindset, but I am inclined to believe it needs to fall in line with Coach V’s mantra that “every battle is won before it is fought” and that is why he will succeed without any doubt at OK. We need an OC that asserts his will on teams and doesn’t simply “look for what a defense may give us.” because playoff level teams won’t give us anything. We will have to find something they are forced to stop and cause them valuable effort to do so.
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 11, 2021, 12:02 PM
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No OC in the country with the greatest game plan ever can do well against a team with Georgia’s talent when their offensive line can’t block. If you can’t block them, you can’t be successful. Clemson could not block Georgia, at all.
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Re: Offensive coordinator
Dec 11, 2021, 9:50 AM
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I was hard on TE early in the season but as things progressed it became obvious that were severely hammered by our QB play. Yes there were other issues as well but when your QB can't hit open receivers, or be a threat in the running game, no offense is going to thrive. I think TE basically giving up on doing anything other than running the ball was ultimately wise but you can't blame him for expecting his 5 star QB to be able to complete basic passes.
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