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We have a 6'2 235 lb running back
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That can route routes and has the hands of a wide receiver.
I'm starting to get the feeling that Adam Randall is about to make some serious noise this year.
I think Dabo knows he has a secret weapon in Adam and is doing his best to downplay it.
Don't be surprised to see him listed as RB1 for the LSU game.
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That size or not he can still get smoked if he runs too upright. Lots of nuisances to RB and I don't claim to know them all but I know he needs to learn how to protect himself and get tackled. Gotta be hard to make that transition. Not saying he can't succeed being an upright runner but those types take a lot of punishment.
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Aug 1, 2025, 10:56 PM
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Eric Dickerson was 6’3”, 220lb. He had an upright running style.
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Re: We have a 6'2 235 lb running back
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Aug 1, 2025, 11:12 PM
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So did Gallman.
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Re: We have a 6'2 235 lb running back
Aug 2, 2025, 2:50 PM
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Harvey Williams was somewhat tall as well. 6ft 2, but 220lbs.
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Re: We have a 6'2 235 lb running back
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Maybe it helps their vision at that height?
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Re: We have a 6'2 235 lb running back
Aug 7, 2025, 9:09 PM
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Dickerson was my favorite RB of all time. He broke O.J. Simpsons record for total yards in a season.
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Re: We have a 6'2 235 lb running back
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Aug 1, 2025, 11:16 PM
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George was 6’ 2”, 220lb.
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Aug 1, 2025, 11:26 PM
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I understand that there have been successful upright runners but I would say they are more of the exception than the norm. They certainly take more of a beating no question. I believe Eddie George also had that running style.
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Derrick Henry runs a little upright. Maybe its something to do with being 6ft 3...who knows?
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Yes I think being taller naturally lends itsself to more of an upright running form, especially if you're 220 plus as many of these guys mentioned were.
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Re: We have a 6'2 235 lb running back
Aug 3, 2025, 8:43 AM
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Yea being taller would be my guess on that type of running style. At least that is what I always chalked it up to.
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Re: We have a 6'2 235 lb running back
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I was hesitant to make this comparison, but...
Body types are somewhat similar. Henry has a bigger frame but I think Adam is a bit quicker. Not sure about top end speed but that run vs Texas was faster than I had anticipated.
I know, I know. Insane to compare the two but will be interesting to see how he develops.
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I agree. I'm excited.
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Aug 4, 2025, 8:39 PM
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Just hope he can pick up the blitz- if he can the running will be, at worst, good.
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He’s a beast. He’s gonna be hard to tackle.
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He was pretty easy to tackle as a receiver. The kid makes one play in the ACC game and all of a sudden we wipe out the last 3 years of mediocrity.
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I'm cautiously optimistic.
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He runs too vertically and we've got no idea what he looks like in pass pro. We also need to see him stay healthy on a consistent basis.
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Re: I'm cautiously optimistic.
Aug 2, 2025, 3:59 PM
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3 yards and a cloud of dust.
That big guy can lower his head and bust through a gap made by the improved O line.
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As long as Riley gets creative and disguise the play, Adam could slide out on a wheel route and truck for some nice yardage. I'm hoping with Adam's agility as a wr, a db will have problems bringing the big boy down.
Once the D has to defend and respect it then they have to drop a LB to help... which should give cade all the options available. We'll see what Riley and cade are made of. Because there's no reason this offense can't be as explosive as lsu with burrows.
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This will be the best OL we've had in 20+ years. Dabo has never had a real OL since he became a HC. Yes, Luke should be that big of a difference.
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Did Tommy Bowden, Tommy West, or Ken Hatfield have a dominant OL? Hasn’t it been since Danny Ford?
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Hatfield had a good OL but West had the best of the three; after Ford of course. West’s OL blocked well for Raymond Priester who kind of carried us through the rebuild. Problem is we also had Nealon Green who wasn’t a great QB by any stretch of the imagination. Nealon was a very poor man’s Woody Dantzler with about 1/3 of Woody’s talent.
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A brief history on past offensive line play at Clemson
Recent assessments (2025)
Positive outlook for 2025: Several sources, including ESPN analysts Greg McElroy and Cole Cubelic, and PFF, rank Clemson's offensive line among the nation's top 10 heading into the season.
Experience cited as a strength: The returning experience and continuity under offensive line coach Matt Luke are often mentioned as reasons for optimism about the unit's performance in 2025.
Depth and versatility: The current offensive line group appears to have good depth and versatility, with players capable of playing multiple positions, according to 247Sports.
Historical perspective
Peak performance in 2016: Clemson's offensive line was ranked as high as #2 nationally by Lindyssports.com in 2016, a season where the Tigers came close to a 15-0 record.
Mixed opinions over time: While there have been periods of strong offensive line play, discussions on TigerNet forums indicate that the unit has also been a source of concern and frustration for fans in certain seasons.
Specific examples: In 2024, injuries and lack of depth on the offensive line were highlighted as contributing factors to offensive struggles, particularly in the run game. Conversely, the 2023 season saw improvement under Luke's guidance, with fans noting the unit's development.
It's important to remember that rankings are subjective and can vary across different media outlets and individual opinions. However, based on the information available, it appears that Clemson's offensive line has demonstrated both highs and lows over the past two decades. The current unit, under Matt Luke, appears to be generating positive buzz and is projected to be among the nation's best for the 2025 season.
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I think that lsu offense was one of the most talented ever in cfb. That is pretty lofty expectations. I love our team but I do not think Cade is at Joe Burrows level, Wesco and Moore might be on level with Chase and Jefferson but they are not there yet. But saying all that I think we can still be an elite offense.
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Cade is every bit at Joe Burrow's level at this stage of their careers. Burrow's junior year was not particularly great or noteworthy.
Quote: "Joe Burrow passed for 2,894 yards and 16 touchdowns, while also rushing for 399 yards and 7 touchdowns. He led the Tigers to a 10-3 record that season. His completion percentage was 57.8%."
Quote on Cade; "He completed 63.4% of his passes for 3,639 yards, threw 36 touchdowns, and had only 6 interceptions. He also rushed for 463 yards and 7 touchdowns."
Which one do you think was better entering their senior year?
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Cade is a talented QB but I don’t see the same talent as Burrows. Do you see the same talent with Cade and Trevor because Trevor and Joe is a much better comparison. Stats don’t tell the whole story on players talents.
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Not even in the same ballpark no matter what the stats were.
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Burrow was better my guy, he finally showed what he was capable of once they got a decent offensive coordinator.
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Adam's going to be a blocker before he runs the ball IMHO
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We've got so many options at receiver he'll be busy.
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His ability to block is going to be what separates
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Him as option #1 especially early in the season (game 1 specifically). Dabo has always been big on trust in pass blocking at the RB position. Etienne struggled with it his freshman year and he lost playing time because of it.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Randall is going to be a big weapon this year. Dude is massive and is will be really hard to tackle for 4 quarters.
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Incorporate him as an H back. Runner, pass catcher, blocker.
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Good morning 🌞
I’m a Randall fan. He’s also from the Independent Republic of Horry. However, RB is a position that is largely based on natural ability. Vision, speed, cutting on a dime, running in tight spaces and wide open spaces. Things that you have or you don’t. There are ways to get better at these things, but not be elite. If Randall is RB1, the chances are that the coaching staff AND his teammates already know. I hope that he turns out to be a Dude. If he is not, I hope that our coaching staff doesn’t try to force a square peg into a round hole out of loyalty. By all accounts, Randall is a great representative of Clemson University, but this is not the reason to give him more opportunities/ playing time. Put the best on the field and let the cards fall where they may.
Have a great Tiger Saturday! GO TIGERS 🐅
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I'm not a believer for the reasons you stated
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RB is an instinctual position requiring the "natural ability" you described very well: "vision, speed, cutting on a dime, running in tight spaces and wide open spaces. Things that you have or you don’t."
Randall is moving to RB not because he has or does not have these qualities. He is moving primarily because he has been beat out at WR by younger and better players which is is a nice problem for Clemson to have. Because Randall is a hard worker, a leader, a friend to all, a gentleman, and a senior, he is moving to a position with less depth. Wish him the best but not expecting a miracle. As a contrast, Sammy Brown is even bigger and was a legit high school RB who continues to excel at LB. Hope Randall defies my lower expectations and helps the team win vs. LSU.
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Re: His ability to block is going to be what separates
Aug 2, 2025, 2:17 PM
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As noted above, H-back is the perfect role for Adam Randall.
Versatility is the hallmark of a H-back; A.Randall has already established that he is very good at the three must-have traits of the good H-back I.e., catching the ball, blocking, and (much less data) running the ball. AR’s natural skills such as superior speed (vis a vis the typical H-back) and route running (H-backs are not reknown as great route runners; AR is light years ahead if the typical competent H-back in this regard). AR also has legit speed, which is yet another characteristic that distinguishes hum from the typical H-back.
The creative challenge lies with Garrett Riley and (depending upon the length of the leash on G.Riley) Dabo. Our offense since Dabo became HC has not been a H-back offense. What little use of a H-back has been as a primarily second string blocker TE in a two TE set (short yardage situation). Minimal threat for the ‘Dabo era’ H-back to catch a pass other than as a last option check-down receiver.
A.Randall has the offense skill attributes to make him a genuine weapon on offense. The big question is whether our offensive coaches (in this case Dabo is included) can figure out how to really make use of him.
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I've been thinking the exact same thing
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Great for RPO, Wheel Routes, Screens, Flats... opens up the playbook and takes the pressure off Cade and the WRs. Plus he's huge, fast, shifty. It'll be hard to take him down. Should be a ton of fun to watch.
I see plenty of sneaky plays that treat him similar to a TE where he blocks for about a second, let's the defender think he slipped his block, but he's really just going out for the pass...
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Re: I've been thinking the exact same thing
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The run he broke off on Texas was shocking. I had no idea he was that fast or had that kind of burst.
I think he has a legitimate chance to develop into an actual RB.
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I think that’s the sole reason Dabo didn’t release weigh in results.
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Aug 2, 2025, 3:09 PM
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Yup. Not much upside to releasing anything in this day and age.
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motioning him out to create mis matches***
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So what? Can he block? Hasnt proven anything?***
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Re: We have a 6'2 235 lb running back
Aug 3, 2025, 11:18 AM
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Most are in agreement that the LSU game will be a hard fought slobber knocker.
In such games turnovers likely will determine the outcome.
I wish Adam well. But this isn't the time to become a workhorse RB against a foe as talented as LSU.
An upright running style is a " lending hand " to a team that will be coached up to hold him upright and punch the ball out.
Again , they need be successful just once. Ball game.
People are sleeping on EZ. He and GD should split half the carries or more in the event one of them becomes a " hot hand " and is feeling it.
Below is a video of how I imagine AR being more of a factor than RB
It features Jamie Harper ( for you newcomers , he was a highly sought after big , physical RB ) who happens also to be wearing #8. Adam Randall's number of choice.
https://youtu.be/vHb7HSYPc80?si=sJN9ArLuJ3x4aCQa
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Aug 4, 2025, 6:27 PM
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Where are you getting that he has an upright running style?
He's more upright in the sense that he's our biggest RB, but not sure what sample size you're pulling from that he runs upright?
Also, wouldn't our biggest and strongest running back be less prone to fumbling?
I can certainly foresee EZ being our starter but I don't think it will be because Adam is more prone to fumbling.
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So Dabo has a secret weapon, & you're discussing it on the WORLD WIDE web!? ***
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Re: So Dabo has a secret weapon, & you're discussing it on the WORLD WIDE web!? ***
Aug 5, 2025, 7:52 PM
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SHAME ON ME. But I just couldn't help myself ,😎
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Marvin Sims was eben taller and upright. He something else to tackle. UNC just banged his ankles so bad he could hardly walk to the bus.
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Re: We have a 6'2 235 lb running back
Aug 7, 2025, 7:41 PM
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A DB nightmare, get past the front 7. He is fast also. DB nightmare 💪🏽🤷🏽♂️. That's a problem, no DB wants to tackle that all night.
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