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Was our defense actually more impressive than UGA's??
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Clemson Conqueror [11128]
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Was our defense actually more impressive than UGA's??
Sep 7, 2021, 11:01 PM
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Each defense gave up three points! Our offensive line play was horrific, DJ made a bunch of mistakes and we totally gave up on the run!
UGA supposedly has one of the best offensive lines in the country, one of the best stables of running backs in the country, and their QB didn't make near the mistakes ours did.
In spite of all that, our D held them to three points. To me, they were more impressive than UGA'a!!
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Re: Was our defense actually more impressive than UGA's??
Sep 7, 2021, 11:22 PM
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You forgot to mention they are from the SEC!! 
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Re: Was our defense actually more impressive than UGA's??
Sep 10, 2021, 5:11 PM
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I couldn't believe how fast they were. I have never seen that type of speed before.
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Re: Was our defense actually more impressive than UGA's??
Sep 7, 2021, 11:27 PM
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Where is everyone getting they had a top Oline? Every talking head I heard talked about their oline being a huge question mark after so many players getting drafted from it the last 2-3 years. Then on top of that they had 2 starting olinemen out for the game.....on top of 2 TEs out and 4 WRs out. Yes our defense played great, so did theirs. They held us to less yards, got more sacks and TFL and holding us to 2 yards rushing is the tipping point to where I'd say their defense played better Saturday. Still a lot of season left.
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Hey Mods..........
Sep 8, 2021, 7:03 AM
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Time to take the trash out
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Re: Hey Mods..........
Sep 9, 2021, 3:55 PM
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Or what? You’re gonna get triggered and not come back?
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Doesn’t support
Sep 8, 2021, 4:09 PM
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his coot narrative.
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Re: Was our defense actually more impressive than UGA's??
Sep 8, 2021, 12:13 AM
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Our front seven are studs. Let’s not forget Mr Davis being out! Saw next to nothing thrown at Booth also. I think our defense is going to be special. Don’t know if Booth comes back but our D will be all world next year. Hopefully the offense gets its legs under it and finds its rhythm.
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Rival Killer [3006]
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No….
Sep 8, 2021, 12:40 AM
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Our D played well.
But there are three areas where their D excelled a bit beyond ours…
1- Their defense had more sacks…flipping field position, etc.
2- Most importantly, their defense put a TD on the board.
3- At the end of the game…our defense did manage to allow them to possess the ball and run the clock out with multiple first downs. Understandable…but had they held them, we could have had one more opportunity.
Both defenses were excellent…theirs still had a slight edge due to the above.
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Clemson Conqueror [11848]
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Re: No….
Sep 8, 2021, 10:24 AM
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I can't disagree, but remember that their offense allowed their defense to rest, so they were much fresher at the end of the game. If the offensive production had been reversed, I think you would have seen their defense a little more vulnerable.
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Actually the time of possession was only about 3 minutes greater
Sep 10, 2021, 8:29 PM
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in their advantage. Plus most of those sacks were on DJ in my opinion. Certainly the INT was huge, but in reality that was also poor execution on our part. I think the receiver ran a bad route, and DJ MUST recognize a crashing safety.
The Georgia defense is solid in the running game, but I attribute our lack of offense more on us than what they did. Their secondary is highly suspect but unfortunately we couldn't function on offense to exploit it. That secondary will get lit up at some point.
We were our own worst enemy in the game, and for that reason I'm gonna go with the defenses playing about equal. If we had any type of functionality on offense (OL and QB) I think we win.
I'm with you though - was a little disappointed the defense couldn't get a stop and give us another chance, but time of possession was not a factor.
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Re: Was our defense actually more impressive than UGA's??
Sep 8, 2021, 1:44 AM
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Doesn't matter. All that matters is the final score. Win big ,win by 1,win pretty. win ugly but just win.
And the team that won was the one you mentioned in the subject matter.
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Re: Was our defense actually more impressive than UGA's??
Sep 8, 2021, 1:04 PM
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I have to respectfully disagree here.
You guys have a great defense, no question, but the game our guys played was just one for the ages. We've all seen the stats, which were dominating - against a top 5 team - so give a little credit where it's due. I mean was it y'all "giving up on the run", or us taking it away from you? Remember we missed a chip-shot FG, and took a knee at the 10, so maybe that's 10 points we left on the field.
It was a classic old fashioned, hard-nosed game, that went down to the wire. Hopefully we'll both get some guys back healthy and maybe meet again - especially Zanders, gotta feel for that guy to work through everything from last year just to get dinged up in the 1st game.
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Re: Was our defense actually more impressive than UGA's??
Sep 8, 2021, 4:13 PM
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We threw three times in the red zone, gave up on the run. They were called that way. The coaches admitted they gave up on the run and if you watched the game you would have seen the play calling dictated the lack of run. Give credit where credit is due, no?
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You are really testy over semantics
Sep 9, 2021, 9:13 AM
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Dabo didn't call any runs there precisely because Kirby's defense had taken it away from him. At that point in the game, you had a grand total of one called run play that gained more than 3 or 4 yards. That's what Kirby does, he takes away the run, and that is what dictated your play calling.
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Re: You are really testy over semantics
Sep 9, 2021, 12:50 PM
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He didn’t call those plays. Do your research, homer. TE did.
He made the point several times that he was disappointed we went away from the run that series in particular. Take off your red glasses.
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Re: You are really testy over semantics
Sep 9, 2021, 1:22 PM
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LOL! You saps will buy anything. All head coaches have final say over what plays are called, and Dabo is no exception. He had a play sheet right there in his hand on that whole drive (as well as most, if not all, of the game) for crying out loud! But nice deflection. Doesn't really matter who was calling the plays, we took away the run. Period. That's what Kirby does. You don't need red glasses to see that.
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Agreed...
Sep 9, 2021, 1:24 PM
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Kirby has taken away several championship runs from UGA fans.
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Re: Agreed...
Sep 9, 2021, 1:38 PM
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Not against Clemson he hasn't. LOL!!
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Well, you're right about that.
Sep 10, 2021, 8:46 PM
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Kirby didn't take away any championships from Clemson.
I expect UGA will lose at least two.
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Re: You are really testy over semantics
Sep 9, 2021, 2:58 PM
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If it doesn’t matter then why do you continue arguing it?
What does your not believing who called the plays have anything to do with the reality? You made a statement, you were wrong, you were corrected and you deflected and accused me of deflecting??? Nothing to see here but typical homer bs.
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Re: You are really testy over semantics
Sep 9, 2021, 4:53 PM
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LOL, are you serious here? That post has got to be one of the bigger bits of buffoonery here on TigerNet - which is saying something. You are the one splitting hairs over who calls the plays. That, my friend, is deflection. I made 1 post in response to it, but in reality I could care less who calls your offense. What does matter is that our defense took your run game completely away, and as impressive as your defense was, ours was more impressive. That's not homer bs, that's just reality.
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Re: You are really testy over semantics
Sep 9, 2021, 5:43 PM
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You either are your pal AF or just as big a gaslighting shill. You made the point about Dabo called the three passes. You. Just three posts ago, ?? He didn’t call it so your post was uninformed as usual while you gaslight on about how it’s just inconceivable we could run the ball given a run called in the red zone. It’s just as stupid as your saying if this or if that, UGA would have scored more. That’s the homer BS I responded and your halfazz manipulation attempt to make it something else is cringy at best.
Lots of people here have tipped their cap to UGA here. Few UGA fans have done the same. That’s what separates men from people like you.
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Re: You are really testy over semantics
Sep 9, 2021, 4:40 PM
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You beat one top 5 team in the first game of the season by Ted. Calm down there big fella. I don’t think that was one for the ages on the slightest
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Re: Was our defense actually more impressive than UGA's??
Sep 9, 2021, 1:04 PM
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I understand the hypothetical “left points on the field” sentiment. It’s a natural thing to do; yet, it goes both ways, and I would have to say that Clemson left more on the field than UGA. Here are four times we did:
1. DJ overthrew Ross to the right on what would have been an easy TD if he was hit in stride. Ross was behind the DB’s. (6pt min; 7pt max)
2. DJ overthrew Ngata I believe it was on a similar play in the 3rd Q. Not sure it would’ve been a TD, but we would’ve at least gotten into FG range. (3pt min; 7pt max).
3. We had the ball 1st and goal from the 5. (3pt min *which we got*; 7pt max)
4. After the INT we got sacked out of range. Easily could’ve gotten a FG a minimum with better plays. (3pt min; 7pt max).
Even using your two “left points on the field” scenarios being converted to points, Clemson wins 31-20 (if Clemson scored all TD’s in those scenarios). If Clemson only scored a TD on 2 of those 4, and FG’s the other two, the game ties 20-20.
I tip my hat to UGA for a great game, and I look forward to hopefully playing again later in the season. However, any objective look at the game results in that Clemson left more points to be scored than UGA.
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Re: Was our defense actually more impressive than UGA's??
Sep 9, 2021, 1:15 PM
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The examples you provided of Clemson leaving points on the field ar situations in which they were trying to score but couldn't. You can make a strong arguement UGA left points on the field because they decided not to score at the end of the game.
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Sep 9, 2021, 4:06 PM
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Agreed. From a 10 year season ticket holder, we have a **** load of old, delusional fans that literally seem to think that if Clemson screws up, that it’s b/c they did it to themselves.
Clemson screwed up their oline. The run game, UGA took away, 100%. LSU took it away. OSU took it away. We have a run-game issue caused by poor oline play and Tiger fans want to act like we haven’t been in the same position for several times in the now.
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Re: Was our defense actually more impressive than UGA's??
Sep 10, 2021, 1:24 PM
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If you actually read my post, I included that in the potential point total for UGA. That’s where the 20 points come from as opposed to the 10 you ended with.
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Our defense played against a better offense than theirs did.***
Sep 8, 2021, 1:13 PM
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Re: Our defense played against a better offense than theirs did.***
Sep 9, 2021, 3:51 PM
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Thank you! Weird how no one else understands this. Not saying we can’t get better but at least GA has a line and a QB that didn’t look like he was on Xanax.
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Rival Killer [2822]
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Our D schemed better, theirs won more 1 on 1's
Sep 9, 2021, 4:03 PM
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Brent Venables again proved that he deserves every penny of his considerable contract. Yes, our D is very experienced but he still had them flying around frustrating UGA's offense (or maybe they weren't frustrated; they're used to not being able to move the ball).
The difference in the two D's was scheme. Venables runs a more complicated system, and our guys executed it very well. Georgia simply...won. They pretty much ran Cover 2 the entire game with both safeties back, and they didn't need to do much. Their blitzes and coverages were basic, but they executed them extremely well. If the other guys' O-line can't block and their QB gets a little deer/headlights going on, you don't NEED to bring exotic blitzes.
Who was more impressive? Idk. Georgia came out and won with a simple plan. We won with a complicated plan. It's worth noting that Georgia might have more stars on their offense than we do, so Coach V and the boys deserve a ton of credit.
All in all, it was a defensive clinic and there probably won't be a better one for the rest of the season anywhere in the country.
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Re: Was our defense actually more impressive than UGA's??
Sep 9, 2021, 4:54 PM
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Not to mention UGAy also had incredible starting field position for the majority of the ball game! Meanwhile, Clemson started 4 times inside its own 15 yard line. And it wasn’t much better the rest of the time either. So yes, I would say Clemson’s D played better- AND when Tyler Davis returns- has the better D…the best in the country
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Clemson Conqueror [11128]
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A great point there...UGA had much better field position
Sep 9, 2021, 9:07 PM
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for most of the game...especially in the first half!
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Re: Was our defense actually more impressive than UGA's??
Sep 10, 2021, 5:04 PM
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Hard to say. My personal opinion is our lack of offense made UGA look a lot better than it really is.
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Agreed. Pretty obvious actually.***
Sep 10, 2021, 8:49 PM
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