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Paw Warrior [4898]
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Apologies if already posted...Andy Staples on Conference Expansion....
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Feb 19, 2024, 9:47 PM
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If you hate the Conf. expansion topic, or just love the ACC no matter wut.....exit thread now.....
Andy Staples is legit. Nothing earth shattering, but video b/t Staples and Cameron is an interesting conversation and brings up alot points I have been making. A couple of new POVs as well.....
Like I've been saying, this will get negotiated one way or another. Once a relationship gets as sour as the one between FSU and the ACC, a divorce always happens. Always. There is simply no reality where FSU stays. Nor frankly where CLEM stays. As repeated ad-nauseum, listen to Dabo.
https://www.on3.com/news/florida-state-acc-negotiation-to-set-up-next-round-of-realignment/
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Top TigerNet [32554]
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Let the NC schools have their own conference.
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Feb 19, 2024, 10:02 PM
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They can add ECU, Charlotte and App St and be their own Tobacco Rd conference.
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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UNC and NC State will bolt, UNC is both SEC and B1G's top choice and now
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Feb 20, 2024, 7:59 AM
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that the legislature is effectively tying them together, they'll both get spots very very easily and will take them.
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Tiger Spirit [9643]
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Re: Apologies if already posted...Andy Staples on Conference Expansion....
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Feb 19, 2024, 10:37 PM
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You can't leave if you have no where to go.
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Orange Beast [6240]
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Re: Apologies if already posted...Andy Staples on Conference Expansion....
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Feb 19, 2024, 10:41 PM
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Is that why you are still here? We can help you find somewhere.
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Orange Phenom [14406]
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CU Medallion [20229]
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Re: I know a place you can go Coot Boy and something
Feb 20, 2024, 12:44 PM
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just click the flag button; enough keep doing that maybe the admins will dump the troll.
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Re: Apologies if already posted...Andy Staples on Conference Expansion....
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Feb 19, 2024, 10:40 PM
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It would be wild if FSU gets what they want but they become damaged goods with the SEC and B1G because of entitled behavior. Where would they go? I hope we are going too but not like a spoiled brat.
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My concern, b/4 I crock, is where are Tigers landing!
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Feb 20, 2024, 12:14 AM
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I dislike BiG even if great schools & history but they are dang Yankees, play in cold weather, food likes & culture are different, ladies “may not”
be as pretty, yada-yada…
while SEC is more to our style ball, culture, cuisine, weather, regional localities known by many here, etc.. they still seem to be evil foreigners even though we’ve beaten up on our share of them last 10 years.
Saying, there’s no perfect scenario with joining either conference mentioned b/c we well be the new kid on the block and will probably be busted with worse schedules & game times issues, biased refs, unruly fans, etc.
Makes you wish the ACC had not gone off the rail with bad TV contract and choosing some bad teams years ago to join..and lately not getting better new name teams to join and having to choose from the bottom of the PAC12 pool of Cal, Stanford & SMU as last resort.
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Game Changer [1623]
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Re: Apologies if already posted...Andy Staples on Conference Expansion....
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Feb 20, 2024, 7:29 AM
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Clemson, FSU and North Carolina to the B1G in 2025! You read it hear first! Go Tigers!
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Re: Apologies if already posted...Andy Staples on Conference Expansion....
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Feb 20, 2024, 7:50 AM
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UNC and UVA to the B1G. Clemson and FSU to the SEC.
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Clemson Icon [26732]
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Warning to all listening to the interview....
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Feb 20, 2024, 7:51 AM
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.... Jeff Cameron is probably the most well known social media FSU guy there is. He works for warchant.com, the most popular FSU website on the net.
Good guy, very reasonable and rational - keeping in mind he looks at things though garnet tinted glasses.
I listened to this video yesterday. I don't remember if Clemson, or any other ACC school, came up in the discussion. But, I will say this. Jeff is convinced that FSU is going this alone. He is convinced that Clemson and UNC and every other ACC school are sitting back and watching FSU and then will profit, after FSU does all the dirty work, and leave the conference as well. He says that in many discussions when the topic is "Get FSU out of the ACC." I've told him numerous times in chats during streaming discussions that I am convinced that FSU and Clemson are in close, daily, communication and are working together. He doesn't buy it.
Just warning you, there are several FSU sites on the web that discuss the lawsuit. They give good information (some even interview lawyers who analyze the case from a legal, not fan, perspective.) But, if the word "Clemson" shows up it is usually in a negative context. I've tried to convince them that Clemson is an ally, not an enemy, in this realignment. But, hey, fans will be fans.
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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I doubt very very seriously that Clemson is in daily contact with or privately
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Feb 20, 2024, 8:04 AM
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siding with FSU with any actionable support. That would open Clemson to enormous lawsuits since they are, effectively, in the lawsuit on the side of the ACC as the ACC is in this to protect the interests of its members.
I can't imagine the liability Clemson would have with if 'this' was found out.
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Clemson Icon [26732]
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Hyperbole on my part.
Feb 20, 2024, 8:09 AM
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I do think the attorneys at FSU and the attorneys at Clemson are in regular contact keeping each other up to date on the status of the lawsuit. I also believe that FSU are dancing partners and all the unofficial backroom talking that has been going on between "agents of the schools" and "agents of the conferences" see Clemson and FSU as a package deal.
I think it is naive to think that FSU is going it alone and just hoping that the B1G or SEC will take them in when they leave the ACC.
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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Once again, if Clemson attorneys and FSU attorneys are in contact discussing
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Feb 20, 2024, 8:16 AM
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the case, I think that opens up Clemson to all sorts of potential lawsuits and damages.
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Re: Once again, if Clemson attorneys and FSU attorneys are in contact discussing
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Feb 20, 2024, 9:19 AM
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I totally disagree. There is nothing wrong with discussions, plus they are private.
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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Ok, whatever. But if these supposed 'private' discussions with FSU are indeed
Feb 20, 2024, 10:33 AM
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happening and get discovered, expect Clemson to be involved in various lawsuits soon.
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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At least publicly, Clemson has not come out in opposition of the ACC's
Feb 20, 2024, 8:19 AM
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actions.
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One thing that will be interesting to watch as this plays-out...
Feb 20, 2024, 9:41 AM
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is what happens to NC State. I have read a number of articles suggesting that the North Carolina state legislature will not permit UNC to leave the ACC without NC State, and I suspect the Virginia general assembly will take the same position with Virginia and Virginia Tech.
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Re: One thing that will be interesting to watch as this plays-out...
Feb 20, 2024, 12:01 PM
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The SEC will not take tag alongs. If two schools are tied together both will have to stay in the ACC.
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Orange Blooded [2168]
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Re: Warning to all listening to the interview....
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I agree with bretfsu that Clemson FSU are communicating with each other. I feel they might leave together even though Clemson has been pretty hushed about it.
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Paw Master [16904]
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Re: Apologies if already posted...Andy Staples on Conference Expansion....
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Feb 20, 2024, 8:11 AM
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Everything is negotiable! Contracts, marriages, agreements , non compete clause, everything. That way lawyers are engaged on front end AND back end of all contracts. Nothing but backyard hoes.
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CU Guru [1505]
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It is absolutely crazy how many Clemson folks are not on FSU's side..
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...the ACC is a dead conference walking. It is going to be a G5 conference within two years. If Clemson wants to be in a major conference or be taken seriously in the future they have to get out. Not to mention the massive money difference. I for one and glad to see FSU drag the pathetic ACC administration and Swofford. Hopefully our administration is talking with FSU every day.
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