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TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
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Re: TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
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Jan 6, 2025, 9:04 AM
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thank goodness there was an official announcement so the old guard can stop with the hand wringing
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Re: TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
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Jan 6, 2025, 9:06 AM
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lol……..yup, agreed 🤣…..!!!!!!
Go Tigers…!!!🏈🏈🏈
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Re: TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
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Jan 6, 2025, 9:06 AM
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Now go get a proven guy!!!!
Go Tigers!
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Re: TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
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Jan 6, 2025, 9:25 AM
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Now go get a proven guy!!!!
Go Tigers!
There is little evidence that a proven guy at one spot will be successful at a new spot vs an unproven guy. Take a look at Texas, Florida and Nebraska as examples. How many proven HCs have they hired since they last won a National Championship who have since been fired? All had experience and great track records. Alabama just fired a DC who had 15 years of coaching experience.
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Re: TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
Jan 6, 2025, 10:28 PM
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HC going into a dysfunctional place is in trouble. A DC coming to Cemson is in the money. The program is good. We have players. Dabo was taking about fundamentals in the post game after the playoff. That can get fixed before the Spring Game.
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Guess that means CU will have to pay the buyout.***
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Re: Guess that means CU will have to pay the buyout.***
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Jan 6, 2025, 10:16 AM
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Dang Dabo, if Bruce wanted him, you should have let him go. 🙄
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"Say it ain't so..."***
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"Month or Sooner " ?
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Jan 6, 2025, 9:13 AM
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Leads a little credence to NEW DC STILL coaching ?
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Re: "Month or Sooner " ?
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Jan 6, 2025, 10:15 AM
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I guess we’ve gotta see how deep a run the Denver Broncos make in the playoffs. 😂
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Re: "Month or Sooner " ?
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Jan 6, 2025, 10:19 AM
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Awe, beat me to it. That was my first thought. Had Denver lost, possibly announced this week. Who knows, but I hope y'all are right.
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Re: "Month or Sooner " ?
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Jan 6, 2025, 10:24 AM
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Exactly what I was gonna say. When he said “before the end of the month or sooner” my first thought was Broncos playoffs
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Re: "Month or Sooner " ?
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Jan 6, 2025, 11:15 AM
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He def has replacements in mind that are still playing games....college or NFL, so I say...take all the time he needs and make a solid hire.
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Re: "Month or Sooner " ?
Jan 6, 2025, 11:21 PM
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What are all these shenanigans over the broncos??
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Re: "Month or Sooner " ?
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Jan 6, 2025, 10:18 AM
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I agree. If we want to lure recruits for visits and possible commitments, I am sure they want to know who’s coaching them.
I also wonder if it is 1 month or sooner because that DCs current team is still alive in the playoffs.
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Re: "Month or Sooner " ?
Jan 6, 2025, 2:41 PM
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Recruiting Unaffected Cuz this is Downtime
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Re: "Month or Sooner " ?
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Jan 6, 2025, 10:50 AM
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Hitslikerodricktaylor might be right.
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Does anyone think this Announcement is made without someone already
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Jan 6, 2025, 9:14 AM
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On board?
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Re: Does anyone think this Announcement is made without someone already
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Jan 6, 2025, 9:28 AM
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On board?
Yes I could see that as a possibility
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Re: Does anyone think this Announcement is made without someone already
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Jan 6, 2025, 9:35 AM
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“I will start the interview process immediately and will hope to have our new defensive coordinator named by the end of the month or sooner“
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Re: TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
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Jan 6, 2025, 9:21 AM
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LFG !
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Re: TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
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Jan 6, 2025, 9:23 AM
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No WAY!!!! Didn’t see this coming at all…… 🤪……. It’s best for CU and Wes that its out and official…
Let’s go Tigers!!!
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Re: TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
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Jan 6, 2025, 9:27 AM
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Whew thank goodness ! Thank you Dabo for finally making it official! Been a long couple weeks here on TNET!!
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Very nice statement by Dabo.
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Jan 6, 2025, 9:28 AM
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Said all the right things about Wes. Didn't have to give a reason for making the change. Didn't have to say anything negative about Wes' job performance. We all saw it.
I was struck by this non-statement:
"I will start the interview process immediately and will hope to have our new defensive coordinator named by the end of the month or sooner."
Translation, "I could make the announcement Monday or Tuesday but I'm not gonna commit to that."
My translation: "We finalized the details of Wes' departure Sunday night. I've been working on his replacement for some time now. As soon as we can finalize the details, I'll announce it. But, we gotta cross the t's and dot the i's first."
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Sounds about right.***
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Jan 6, 2025, 9:32 AM
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At this point, nothing else should've been expected from Dabo
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Jan 6, 2025, 9:49 AM
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Great leaders don't become great leaders by tossing out their employees like they're garbage
I hope Wes is able to take something from this and be a better coach because of it
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Re: At this point, nothing else should've been expected from Dabo
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Great leaders don't become great leaders by not publicly admitting and being accountable when they have made a mistake....for example selecting someone for a position to insrtuct and lead people in a skill or subject matter in which they no actual experience in.
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Re: At this point, nothing else should've been expected from Dabo
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I’m sure you know all about being a great leader. Dabo has proven to be one. He’s not perfect, but he’s proven. Let’s see your resume so we can evaluate your knowledge of what it takes to be a great leader.
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Re: At this point, nothing else should've been expected from Dabo
Jan 13, 2025, 10:31 AM
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After having spent all of my adult life defending this country (6 years military & 30 years federal law enforcement) I am very confident that I understand leadership principles very well. Along with numerous accomplishments, I have made mistakes, but I have never been shy about publicly acknowledging those mistakes. As a leader, I realize that " Success has a million fathers, failure is an orphan. " When you make a mistake have enough integrity to admit it. Don't allow a narrative to start blaming others. Own your mistakes and when there is a success you spread the accolades to your team and stand back and let them get the praise they deserve. I know I am not a better football coach then Swinney but when it comes to selecting a DC and looking at his past selection of Wes and the unheard " hiring hungry " criteria as a measuring stick, I can say with certainty I would have made a better selection who was more qualified then Wes especially after having to uphold the standard set by Venables.
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The hubris is strong with this one
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Jan 6, 2025, 11:07 AM
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Does Dabo owe fans a public apology for failing to meet ridiculous expectations?
It's called taking a chance. He knew failure was a possibility before he named Goodwin the DC, and still thought he was worth it. God forbid anyone do that.
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Good for him. He was wrong though.
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Jan 6, 2025, 10:49 PM
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That was obvious to many of us at the time.
Glad Dabo finally saw the same thing.
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I'm right there with you
Jan 7, 2025, 8:18 AM
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Admitting you were wrong is half the battle though. Hopefully Wes is the last experimental hire we see
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Re: At this point, nothing else should've been expected from Dabo
Jan 7, 2025, 8:52 AM
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This year…I haven’t looked at the numbers but in truth I’ve been disappointed in our tackling for at least 2 yrs now,,,however, I must say that in addition to poor tackling, the schemes/alignments have been clearly worse this year…perhaps OCs have seen something in our system that was found to be consistently beatable…either way Wes seemed like a good guy but maybe makes a better analyst than coordinator. Good luck to him…looking for a great hire from Dabo,,, he’s been on a tear his last few!!
Go Tigers!!
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Sounds like he'll be fine - I wish him well.
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I know rumors abound, but I can wait to see who Dabo picks.
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Can I finally step away from my puter***
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Best of luck to him
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Seems like a quality guy. I'm sure he'll land on his feet and do well.
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The Tnet chicken Littles who gnashed teeth and wrent garments in twain
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Because he wasn't fired on the tarmac in Austin can finally unclench and have that long awaited BM.
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Re: The Tnet chicken Littles who gnashed teeth and wrent garments in twain
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I have always found humor in that Kiff was fired from USC on the tarmac as soon as they got back home. That bozo deserves it.
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Re: TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
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Jan 6, 2025, 10:23 AM
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Dabo should call Nick Saban for advice to replace, not only the Defensive Coordinator, but also the strength coach. There was no “nasty” in the defense this year.
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Good luck Wes****
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While many have agonized over the state of our football team the last few years, I never believed it was because someone failed to give his best. I am still of that mindset.Sometimes no matter how you try, things just won't come together for you. I can only imagine the nightmare of recruiting and coaching 18 to 45 year old players. I really do wish you well! Just don't end up at USuC..that never ends well. Good luck!
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Re: Good luck Wes****
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“ … coaching 18 to 45 year old players.”
Good one!
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Re: Good luck Wes****
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100% agree, he gave it his best and we should be grateful for that.
It's one thing to make the best decision when you have a spreadsheet full of analytics open in front of you that you can stew over for hours on end.
It's another thing to have to make those same (or bigger) or bigger decisions while you are baking in the hot sun, trying to get an update on players, managing where the ref spots you, dealing with penalties, and then taking all that information and creating an answer in less than 30 seconds or so.
I imagine that's a skill that takes a lot of time, a lot of huevos, and a general knack/artistry. Wes got a good baptism into that world. It will make him better. BV sure did make it look easy, eh?
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Means he isnt getting the Sooner job.***
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Re: Means he isnt getting the Sooner job.***
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We have some good coaches but I hope he doesn't promote from within.
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Re: TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
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Jan 6, 2025, 11:09 AM
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See you later pork chop! Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Now that that's over, let's find a "real DC"....
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Re: TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
Jan 6, 2025, 12:11 PM
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He's not in a bad position, if he has half a brain he won't have to work another day in his life.
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Re: TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
Jan 6, 2025, 12:49 PM
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I hate it took so long to officially announce this and I hope it takes about a week and not amonth to replace Goodwin. Good luck to Wes.
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I hate it took so long to officially announce this and I hope it takes about a week and not amonth to replace Goodwin. Good luck to Wes.
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I'd rather Dabo get the right, than right now.
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Jan 6, 2025, 2:03 PM
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take as long as he needs to make the right hire this time!
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Re: I'd rather Dabo get the right, than right now.
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Bingo. Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast.
Wes gave Clemson a TON of great years, so it can't hurt to take the time to appreciate that, too. I do think he gave it his best shot and similarly some things can take time to learn and perfect (like live coaching). He will do great wherever he ends up. Wish him the best and grateful for his time and impact here. Looking forward to our next defensive chapter, too.
Go Tigers!
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Re: TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
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Jan 6, 2025, 2:39 PM
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Really Good Defensive Analyst...Not GameDay
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B Y E B Y E!***
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Wait, I thought Dabo was letting Wes get hired at Oklahoma
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so that it would save Wes the embarrassment of being fired.
What happened?
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Re: Wait, I thought Dabo was letting Wes get hired at Oklahoma
Jan 7, 2025, 10:58 AM
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That seemed to be what was going on based on the rumblings. If that was what was happening it could have fallen apart for a multitude of reasons from any of the 3 involved parties.
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Re: TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
Jan 6, 2025, 11:04 PM
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Wish him the best in his future coach positions wherever that may be!
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Jan 7, 2025, 10:54 AM
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Dabo should offer Brent the job, if he continues to be on the losing side at Ok they'll be looking to fire him next year!! So he should take the opportunity to come back to Clemson!!
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Re: TNET: Clemson officially announces Wes Goodwin out at defensive coordinator
Jan 8, 2025, 1:26 PM
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WES, TOMORROW IS ANOTHER DAY- BEST WISHES AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL THE DAYS OF YOUR LIFE.
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