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Tonight really is great
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Tonight really is great

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:38 PM
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1) FSU loses.
2) Orange Bowl record book may be rewritten.
3) ESPN having to broadcast a turd of a game with potential turd ratings.
4) Talking heads can’t say “We told you so” because FSU had 20+ op outs, which commentators have to address, non stop, to excuse the terrible showing.
5) Pitfalls of building a team with the portal exposed.
6) Norvell is a weasel, he deserves every minute of this after what he pulled during COVID.




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Re: Tonight really is great

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:40 PM
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Well said 👏

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Re: Tonight really is great

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:40 PM
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How do you know the ratings were bad?

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Its an assumption

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:42 PM
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Could be wrong, but my guess is any casual viewers this game had tuned out an hour ago.

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Re: Its an assumption

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:43 PM
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I could see that, but not much else to watch. It's kind of relaxing watching this beatdown.

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Re: Its an assumption

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:53 PM
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The Arizona bowl is way more entertaining....

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Re: Its an assumption

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Dec 31, 2023, 12:10 PM [ in reply to Re: Its an assumption ]
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Lions vs cowboys was much better game! I watched that at 8pm

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Re:Speaking of Rigging!***

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Dec 31, 2023, 2:12 PM
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Recorded started watching on 15 x speed. Pulled out after 30 something to 3 and

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:46 PM [ in reply to Its an assumption ]
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Been streaming House since.

Never intended on watching real time

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Im watching Equalizer 3.

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:56 PM [ in reply to Its an assumption ]
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😎😁😁😁😁

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Re: Its an assumption

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:57 PM [ in reply to Its an assumption ]
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I am watching, hoping for 77.

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I know I turned it off after UGag went up 21-3.

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Dec 31, 2023, 4:50 PM [ in reply to Its an assumption ]
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The Barstool Sports Arizona Bowl was much more entertaining.

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Re: Tonight really is great

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:43 PM [ in reply to Re: Tonight really is great ]
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The national championship last year did have a big problem of causal fans tuning out before halftime. It’s reasonable to expect that same to happen here.

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Re: Tonight really is great

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:50 PM [ in reply to Re: Tonight really is great ]
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I turned it off after the first quarter

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Re: Tonight really is great

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Dec 31, 2023, 3:30 PM
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So did I! Don’t care for FSU, but I despise ugay, so no need to waste my time on that one.

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Re: Tonight really is great

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Dec 31, 2023, 4:35 PM [ in reply to Re: Tonight really is great ]
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I tuned out in the 2nd.

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Re: Tonight really is great

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:42 PM
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Nailed it Francis!

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Congrats on ur upcoming 10k points!

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:47 PM
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Nm

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Spot on FM!***

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:43 PM
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Re: Tonight really is great

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:44 PM
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Thank you for bringing some sanity to all of this. FSU is/was a fraud. Been saying it all season long. If Weitz makes the FG, none of this conversation would be necessary.

Oh, and Norvell is a weasel and I am taking great pleasure in watching Jawja give it to him dirty.

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Screw Calford.


The SEC narrative is further pushed!

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:45 PM
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Oh wait, how is that good for Clemson?

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See #4

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:47 PM
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This is the last time I will help you.
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Message was edited by: Francis Marion®


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So , no self proclaimed national championship tonight? lol***

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:50 PM
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Re: So , no self proclaimed national championship tonight? lol***

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:51 PM
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I have to admit, after running into a lot of delusional FSU fans in St. Augustine the past few days, I am taking GREAT pleasure in watching FSU getting destroyed tonight on national TV

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Screw Calford.


Bowl games have now been ruined across the board.

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:50 PM
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Changes will happen as the mother ship loses steam and has no dollars to throw into the furnace

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The only person I feel a little sorry for is

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Dec 30, 2023, 7:35 PM
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bretfsu®

He seems like a good dude.




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7) Georgia does not win a national championship***

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Dec 30, 2023, 7:45 PM
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+1***

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Dec 30, 2023, 7:46 PM
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Re: 7) Georgia does not win a national championship***

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Dec 31, 2023, 10:49 AM [ in reply to 7) Georgia does not win a national championship*** ]
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it's also giving the leghumpers a false sense of secheat superiority for their 1st game of next season.

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Re: 7) Georgia does not win a national championship***

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Dec 31, 2023, 3:36 PM [ in reply to 7) Georgia does not win a national championship*** ]
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That in and of itself is plenty of reason for me to be happy.

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I came here looking for directions

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Dec 31, 2023, 12:45 AM
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Can't say I trust Ya'll. I'll take my chances with those Gypsies back at the truck stop diner(subway).

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Regarding #6

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Dec 31, 2023, 1:03 AM
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It sounds like you cared more about playing football than you did player safety.

The player in question who tested positive the day before the game had been practicing all week despite being symptomatic.

There were 18 other games canceled or postponed that day, so it wasn’t like ours was the only one.

I know it sounds macho to suggest that Florida State was scared to play us and used that as an excuse, but there was still a lot of uncertainty at that time around the virus and the contagiousness of it.

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Re: Regarding #6

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Dec 31, 2023, 7:58 AM
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How many other games were canceled in 2020 while the visiting team was on the bus headed to the stadium? That’s the issue.

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Here are the facts

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Dec 31, 2023, 9:04 AM
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1) The player who was symptomatic tested negative twice during the week.
2) His third test was a positive, but the results were not known until Clemson had landed in Tallahassee.
3) No other players tested positive or were symptomatic.
4) Clemson offered to rapid test the entire team prior to kickoff, and push the game back to that night, Sunday, or Monday, to allow for this testing, FSU declined.
5) All ACC protocols were followed. All Clemson players had traveled to Tallahassee wearing N95 masks and observing social distancing.
6) Both the ACC and Clemson approved moving forward with the game, FSU declined.
7) Norvell’s initial release implied that the game was not being played because of protocols put in place by the ACC and FSU.

"Our first priority is the health of our student-athletes, and I appreciate the protocols that have been put in place by FSU and the ACC to ensure everyone’s health while allowing us to play this season," FSU head coach Mike Norvell said in a release.
"It’s unfortunate that we will not have the opportunity to compete today, but we hope to be able to play Clemson in December. I am thankful for the support and coordination between our administration, Clemson and the ACC office.”

The fact of the matter is because all ACC protocols were followed, it was up to the schools to decide. FSU alone declined.

8) “Taking aim at FSU’s administration, Swinney expressed frustration in the fact that no game had previously been called off because of one positive test the day before and that all ACC teams had agreed before the season to expand their travel rosters from 72 to 80 players in case something like that happened.” -TCI
9) Clemson spent roughly $300,000.00 on travel, and to my knowledge was not reimbursed for any of the expenses.
10) Clemson was #4 in the country (7-1) while FSU was 2-6.

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/fsu/football/2020/11/21/florida-state-fsu-football-seminoles-clemson-postponement-covid-19-coronavirus-mike-norvell-tigers/6307870002/




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Re: Here are the facts

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Dec 31, 2023, 3:41 PM
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FSU was simply trying to avoid a serious asswhipping, which would have happened. That’s all there was to it.

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Re: Regarding #6

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Dec 31, 2023, 8:30 AM [ in reply to Regarding #6 ]
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Thank you JK for bringing some sanity to what's really important. Many forget we had several of our own team members suffered and still suffering.

#5 is also a popular lie that's making its rounds through T-Net. Just delusional cult members that care little about real facts as long as it seemingless scores points with dhood and Dabo.

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#5 is not a lie

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Dec 31, 2023, 9:18 AM
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1) FSU was #6 in the portal rankings for 2023.
2) FSU had over 20 players opt out of their bowl game (15 entered the portal).

These are both facts. It’s logical to expect teams that bring in more portal players to also lose more players to the portal. The numbers presented support this. I’m not saying I like it, or don’t, but it’s a pitfall (consequence) of the portal.

https://247sports.com/season/2023-football/transferteamrankings/

Regarding COVID, the issue is Norvell, not player health. Earlier that same season Norvell himself tested positive for COVID the week prior to a game. FSU still played that game even though technically CDC recommendations at the time suggested anyone who came in contact with him (i.e. the team) should have quarantined for 14 days. In 2021 Clemson’s leading rusher, Kobe Pace, was out for the matchup vs FSU after testing positive for COVID the week of the game. Clemson happened to be 4-3 and FSU was 3-4. FSU opted to play the game. It appears player safety was not as big of a concern before the cancellation (11.5 point underdogs to Miami in Sept 2020) or after (10 point underdogs to Clemson in 2021) as it was when they were 35.5 point underdogs to Clemson in Nov 2020.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/florida-state-coach-mike-norvell-tests-positive-for-covid-19-will-miss-rivalry-showdown-vs-miami/amp/

https://www.nbcsports.com/college-football/news/clemson-kobe-pace-in-covid-19-protocol-out-for-florida-state

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/02/941355347/cdc-shortens-its-covid-19-quarantine-recommendations

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/sports-pmn/clemson-rb-kobe-pace-covid-19-to-miss-florida-state-game/wcm/44a6895f-e9ba-4a15-9c65-752c92fb5af9/amp/




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Covid conveniently broke

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Dec 31, 2023, 9:49 AM
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Two streaks...'Noles and Coot U.

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Clem and da Judge are sleeper cells....***

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Dec 31, 2023, 1:46 PM [ in reply to #5 is not a lie ]
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Re: Clem and da Judge are sleeper cells....***


Dec 31, 2023, 3:01 PM
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Probably left wing tree huggers

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Re: #5 is not a lie

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Dec 31, 2023, 2:08 PM [ in reply to #5 is not a lie ]
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The fact that FSU would not even consider postponing the game 1-2 days to allow for entire team testing is telling. They did not want to play that game. Period. FM stated facts.

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Re: Tonight really is great

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Dec 31, 2023, 7:36 AM
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You covered the situation well.

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Re: Tonight really is great

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Dec 31, 2023, 9:36 AM
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Darn, why can't I give 2 👍🏼's up for this Francis? 😉

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Re: Tonight really is great

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Dec 31, 2023, 10:02 AM
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Watch a few minutes of the debacle, then switched over to the CW to watch Toledo-Wyoming.

That was a fun game to watch, with a come-from-behind walk-off FG winner, and the Barstool announcers were a riot.

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Re: Tonight really is great

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Dec 31, 2023, 11:55 AM
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Spot on especially the weasel part...F FSpoo

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I didn't watch the game.

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Dec 31, 2023, 6:48 PM
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Thanks for the update.

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Ok.***


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