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To Those Fans That Are Boycotting The ACCCG
Nov 28, 2016, 11:09 AM
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First, I have respect for your decision. If you have the financial means and would attend the game under normal circumstances please support your team and pinch your nose doing it if you are that uncomfortable.
I don't like the decision to move the game but supporting Clemson take precedence over ACC politics...Always.
This decision was done extremely quick and the off season is the time to really send a clear message about the future of the ACC title game.
I for one support playing the ACCCG at the stadium of the team with the highest ranking in the CFP rankings........Speaking of which, would you protest the title game if it was being played in death valley?
There is far too most activism and protesting going on...I'll be d amned if I am going to let it spoil my fun and support of the tigers.
But if you don't go I support your right to do so even if I don't agree
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I had tickets for the game in Charlotte.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:16 AM
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And, I guarantee you I would be there. Also, I would be there if played at Death Valley.
However, do not ask me to compromise my principles and beliefs because the ACC wants men in women's bathrooms and vice versa. It's wrong, period. The ACC will not get the pleasure of my attendance to further their misguided morality.
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Unless it was in Death Valley......
Nov 28, 2016, 11:20 AM
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Gotcha
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Re: Unless it was in Death Valley......
Nov 28, 2016, 11:25 AM
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I stated I had tickets to the game in Charlotte. I accepted the refund offered.
And, I was answering your question -
"I for one support playing the ACCCG at the stadium of the team with the highest ranking in the CFP rankings........Speaking of which, would you protest the title game if it was being played in death valley?"
I read your reply as sarcastic. If it was not your intention, I apologize.
But, otherwise, I will stand on my principles of not supporting the CG except by watching Clemson on TV.
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Didn't mean for it to sound sarcastic
Nov 28, 2016, 11:33 AM
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Sorry if it did...All I am say is that if I protested everything or everyone that I didn't agree with I would sit at home all day and be miserable....Not my cup of tea.
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110%er [8009]
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So just to be clear. If the game was moved from Charlotte
Nov 28, 2016, 11:52 AM
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for the same reasons, but it was decided to play it at Clemson instead of Orlando you would go?
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Unlikely.
Nov 28, 2016, 12:37 PM
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I specifically remember several years ago, Clemson was considering a Sunday game. I stated then, as I do now, I wouldn't attend.
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Legend [15914]
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Exactly. People just are pizzed at the inconvenience but its easier to call it principle.
Nov 28, 2016, 12:00 PM
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Put that game in Atl, Columbia, or anywhere within 2 hours of where "principled peraon" lives and they are going.
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such a shame that people want over throw out theocracy in this country....
Nov 28, 2016, 11:23 AM
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Wait, we aren't a theocracy. We are a democracy with freedom of religion. So it's been a longstanding tradition in this country that laws can't be made based on religion. In fact it's against the constitution, and the 14th amendment gives all Americans guarantee of their rights to not be discriminated against by the government.
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Re: such a shame that people want over throw out theocracy in this country....
Nov 28, 2016, 11:26 AM
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Just so you know, we are a representative republic, not a democracy.
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Yes, I hate freedom ... SMH
Nov 28, 2016, 11:43 AM
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Just because you have freedom to do something, it doesn't mean you should, especially if it violates someone's rights. I have the freedom to break a law; it doesn't mean I should. There are repercussions.
I will exercise my right to 'civil disobedience' since I answer to a higher Authority than the US and state government. If repercussions are meted out, then so be it. I won't be rioting destroying property and other people's property and cause disruptions to other people's daily lives.
Hope you find your rainbows and unicorns.
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That's a very Different Discussion..LOL
Nov 28, 2016, 11:31 AM
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I think I opened a can of worms inadvertently...
My friend, we aren't a democracy, we are a constitutional representative republic and I could have a fun time debating the first amendment and Reconstruction amendments with you when I have time...
I'll end this by saying that only the Federal Government cannot pass laws that are religious based specifically. Freedom of religion doesn't mean absence of religions and the 10th Amendment gives the States great powers to do what over they want...but legal scholars have been debating this for decades...they can't figure it out any better than fans on a message board...LOL
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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wrong it applies to the whole country hence why we are...
Nov 28, 2016, 11:37 AM
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The United States of America, not a confederation. Any local made based on religion is invalid by the constitution.
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So Are Blue Laws Unconstitutional?
Nov 28, 2016, 11:44 AM
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Those are religious based
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Re: So Are Blue Laws Unconstitutional?
Nov 28, 2016, 12:00 PM
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The Bill of rights applies to all people and protects those rights against ANY govt intrusion. States CANNOT intrude on speech, bearing arms, fair trial, fair punishment etc. Those rights are upheld against any form of govt.
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Re: So Are Blue Laws Unconstitutional?
Nov 28, 2016, 12:00 PM
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And blue laws aren't unconstitutional unless you can prove they establish religion.
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Are you telling me that religion was not to origin?
Nov 28, 2016, 12:06 PM
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Seriously?
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Re: To Those Fans That Are Boycotting The ACCCG
Nov 28, 2016, 11:32 AM
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I had 8 tickets for the ACCCG in Charlotte. I did not buy tickets for Orlando. Yes, some of it was out of principle. If the ACC had decided that no future games were to be played in NC, I would be fine with that (well, sort of). BUT... don't sell tickets to one venue and then change the venue. That's total BS. They could have stood on principle by saying "all future games" and got the same point across.
Also, I have two young kids and my in-laws are in Charlotte. I had a free place to stay, a babysitter and a venue only 1 1/2 hr from my house. Orlando would have been a 2-3 day trip with at least 1, maybe 2 nights in a hotel and I would have had to make arrangements for my kids to stay in the Upstate or pay someone's way to Orlando to watch them. They are too young to sit through a late game.
So, I will be cheering on the Tigers in front of the big screen but I will not be passing out $2 bills whilst in Orlando.
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Tu.. this is exactly why people aren't going and are mad.
Nov 28, 2016, 12:04 PM
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And this makes tons of sense. Lots of pwople are in your position, and for that reason, I understand the ire of the ACCs decision.
They should have handled it better. I'm sorry you can't make it.. I'd be angry too.
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Are people really boycotting?
Nov 28, 2016, 11:46 AM
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Or rather prefer to not drive 7-8 hours to Orlando versus the 1-2 to Charlotte, then trying to justify it with some righteous claim?
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I doubt there are a lot boycotting.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:57 AM
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They're mad at the ACC because they had an easy drive to Charlotte for the game and now it will be harder, and more expensive, so they "claim" some bogus boycott to justify not going.
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Nope, I have the means and funds to do so.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:59 AM
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So, ...
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But you didn't answer my other question above.
Nov 28, 2016, 12:04 PM
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If it was moved from Charlotte (for the same reason)to Clemson instead of Orlando would you go?
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Re: To Those Fans That Are Boycotting The ACCCG
Nov 28, 2016, 11:46 AM
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I love my Tigers like everyone else on here but I won't be going to Florida for the ACC Champ Game either. We had bought 19 tickets to the game in Charlotte and then we accepted the refund. Only 2 of those will be going to Florida. I agree wholeheartedly that the ACC, once again, failed to stand up to logic and caved in to the "trivial few." We will be cheering the Tigers on while watching on TV. I had much rather be watching in person but I just can't support such a pitiful decision by our conference leaders.
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Forgive me, but why watch the game? Protest properly!
Nov 28, 2016, 11:50 AM
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If you are going to protest then take your family out to the movies or something...Don't watch the game...Take money from the TV people too!
I get the economics..Traveling to Charlotte is a lot easy both in time and money..but to say "I Protest" then eat chicken wings on your sofa and still watch the game is weak-sauce
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If the ACC really thought this issue mattered they'd
Nov 28, 2016, 11:48 AM
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Move their headquarters out of North Carolina, but they don't. I still don't understand the move or the issue. The ACC Championship game should be in a central location this was an awful move.
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I'll support the Tigers anywhere, anytime I can. I call B S on people
Nov 28, 2016, 11:53 AM
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not going over principle.. i do believe people are angry they have to go to Orlando rather than Charlotte because of additional cost and time.
Would these same people not go to NC to see clemson play in Charlotte or Gboro when SC was banned from hosting?
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What if it was move to Atlanta?..I bet most would go...
Nov 28, 2016, 12:05 PM
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Convenience is at play lot more than some are willing to admit too
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fortunate for me - I live in St Pete
Nov 28, 2016, 12:00 PM
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so - i will be going to the ACCCG game. tickets are pretty pricey - so - they sold to somebody.
my location will be even better - WHEN - we make the national championship game in Tampa.
Will be there at any cost.
ps - I was also at the 1981 natty - yes i am old now. Graduated in 81.
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