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To date, we have sent Ukraine 113 $BILLION in 2022
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Jan 19, 2023, 5:11 PM
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Since the start of the Russian invasion. To put that in perspective, you could give each soldier on the U.S military a check for 89,000 dollars.
The entire World War II cost the U.S around $350 billion dollars.
Bill gates nearly has 100 billion in the bank
Elon musk has nearly 300 billion in the bank
Joe Biden has around 17.3 million
Hellary around 120 million
Trump around 3 billion.
Yet the average American only averages around 54k per year and these are the guys who ask for more money to donate from the taxpayers to Ukraine.
Pretty soon you will have nothing and be happy with it!
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Re: To date, we have sent Ukraine 113 $BILLION in 2022
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Jan 19, 2023, 6:13 PM
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Neville Chamberlain in da house.
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They should be forced to surrender their Director's
Jan 19, 2023, 6:22 PM
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Cut of Red Dawn.
Bunch of commie lovers.
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Fine, but you ain't gettin' muh guns. Your commie worries
Jan 19, 2023, 9:58 PM
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are a bit misplaced. Take a look in the cabinet.
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All-In [27717]
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The only commie in my cabinet is chambered in 7.62.***
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Jan 19, 2023, 10:00 PM
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(But for real I do have some really dirty soviet-era ammo that I probably should just chuck because it's corrosive.)
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Nope. 39mm or 54r. I'll take either. I've got gun oil.***
Jan 19, 2023, 11:18 PM
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Re: The only commie in my cabinet is chambered in 7.62.***
Jan 20, 2023, 9:10 AM
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You could not pay me to shoot that stuff. The ironic part is the Russian Army is undoubtedly doing just that, and in an actual war. Which might be part of the reason they are not doing real well.
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Re: To date, we have sent Ukraine 113 $BILLION in 2022
Jan 19, 2023, 10:55 PM
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Neville Chamberlain in da house.
So you are okay for having elites strip you of your money? Your children’s money? Good to know you don’t have a sack to stand up for yourself!
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Re: To date, we have sent Ukraine 113 $BILLION in 2022
Jan 20, 2023, 8:06 AM
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You support Neville Chamberlains '"appeasement " strategy? Waiting.
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Re: To date, we have sent Ukraine 113 $BILLION in 2022
Jan 20, 2023, 10:27 AM
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You support Neville Chamberlains '"appeasement " strategy? Waiting.
You support having fellow Americans being robbed blindly of their earnings? I’ll wait!
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Re: To date, we have sent Ukraine 113 $BILLION in 2022
Jan 20, 2023, 10:47 AM
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Who's being "robbed". Please explain.
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Re: Who are the "elites" in this scenario?...
Jan 20, 2023, 10:29 AM
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our elected representatives?
Have you not being paying attention to your politicians lifestyles compared to average Americans? Which house was it that Ole Joe had classified documents? His 3rd house? 4th house?
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All-In [32005]
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Why not give me a straight answer?...
Jan 20, 2023, 10:44 AM
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I asked you to confirm if you were referring to our elected reps as the "elites". Sounds like that's a yes.
Fine
But then it just sounds like blabbering populism to think the "elites" are the root of all of these issues. So the lifestyles of members of Congress compared to the lifestyle of the average American playing into our support of Ukraine how exactly?
As for Binden's homes...I'm not a Biden expert, but I thought he owned a home in Wilmington and one in Rehoboth Beach.
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Wonder how much came back to the Biden’s?
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Jan 19, 2023, 6:39 PM
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1. Congress sends money to Ukraine
2. Ukraine buys Chinese drones
3. Chinese drone Co uses hunters “financial” services
4. Chinese drone Co files 58 new drone patents after a weekend in Delaware; hanging out with Hunter in the garage.
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I promise you one thing
Jan 19, 2023, 7:40 PM
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Elon Musk and Bill Gates don't have $5 billion "in the bank", between the both of them.
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Re: To date, we have sent Ukraine 113 $BILLION in 2022
Jan 19, 2023, 8:33 PM
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And do you know what allowing Putin to rebuild the USSR could cost us, especially with China emerging as a hostile superpower in the Pacific?
It could literally cost us everything. A rebuilt USSR, combined with China, would be stronger than us...a fair bit stronger, actually. The Soviets were substantially stronger than we were on our lonesome; it was only the combined power of the NATO alliance that was holding them off.
Ukraine's a resource-rich nation of 40+ million, and its access to the Black Sea is incredibly important, strategically, especially with the Erdogan regime in Turkey starting to make eyes at Russia. We let that domino fall, I can absolutely guarantee you we'll regret it.
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Who arranged for thorium nuke tech transfer to China?
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Jan 19, 2023, 10:10 PM
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Who stalled our development of hypersonic missile tech that we, in all likelihood, developed?
Who allowed our pharma and chip development to be shipped to China?
I guess the C!A just whiffed on all of them. Right? I don't think so, personally.
Coordinated Choreographed Chaos.
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Re: Who arranged for thorium nuke tech transfer to China?
Jan 20, 2023, 8:09 AM
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Our technology seems to be whooping their @sses right now. How many billions will our MIC reap in over the next decade since it's now proven our stuff is far superior to Soviet/Chinease crap?
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Re: Who arranged for thorium nuke tech transfer to China?
Jan 20, 2023, 10:45 AM
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Our technology seems to be whooping their @sses right now. How many billions will our MIC reap in over the next decade since it's now proven our stuff is far superior to Soviet/Chinease crap?
How much money can we ( American taxpayers) expect in return from Russia (and Ukraine) should Ukraine be successful in defeating Russian armies?
I’LL WAIT!
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Re: Who arranged for thorium nuke tech transfer to China?
Jan 20, 2023, 10:50 AM
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We can make bank from other countries who were on the fence as to whether they were going to arm themselves with Soviet vs NATO hardware.
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The bigger picture is this is an act of war against Russia
Jan 20, 2023, 8:27 AM
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And we have no justification as Americans for going to war against Russia
Yet so many on both sides are falling for it yet again, and every time Russia does anything to fight back the majority of people react with “oh my God why would they attack so and so, they are trying to rebuild USSR!” Completely lacking any context or understanding of agreements made and broken with Russia.
This is how dumb*sses in America were tricked into WW2, and this is how they are pushing forward with WW3
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Explain how supporting a country being invaded by Russia...
Jan 20, 2023, 8:37 AM
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in a financial manner is an act of war against Russia.
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The US sending weapons to that country, in violation of
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Jan 20, 2023, 9:53 AM
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previous agreements, and now during an active war, is an act of war. You don't get to just send weapons (and people) to one side and then sit back like "oh we didn't do anything" lol. It's just as bad as a direct engagement, yet we never seem to learn.
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What agreement is being violated?....
Jan 20, 2023, 10:09 AM
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and no, supplying funding and weapons to a country is not the same as a direct engagement.
During WWII the Lend-Lease Act and actions that came from that were not the same as when the US declared war on Japan and then on Germany.
To equate the supplying of arms and funds to direct military action against a country illustrates a deep historical and logical ignorance.
Also, the US is not 'sit[ting] back like "oh we didn't do anything"'. In fact, our foreign policy has specifically been "we're going to do everything we can to help Ukraine defeat Russia's invasion, short of direct US action against Russia".
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It is the same. Governments pretend it isn't, so that they
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Jan 20, 2023, 10:13 AM
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can provoke more war. War is the health of the state.
(and gullible people are the health of the democratic state)
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So what agreement is being broken? And you know...
Jan 20, 2023, 10:37 AM
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how I know funding Ukraine is not the same as direct action against Russia?...by Russia's response. Do you think Russia would be acting the same now if we were attacking them directly with US fighter planes?
Of course not. That's how you know it's not the same.
You deal in abstract (and often absurd) sayings. You just repeat again and again...but prove it or illustrate it.
I've illustrated above why funding is not the same as direct action. Can you do the same to support your assertion?
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Sorry, there's no hope for you.***
Jan 20, 2023, 10:40 AM
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Don't puss out...defend your positions***
Jan 20, 2023, 10:44 AM
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LOL, I have learned and forgotten more about WW2 than
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Jan 20, 2023, 9:52 AM
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you'll ever know.
I'm not going to fall for your trolling, so I'll just say this and move on:
England and the US "supported" Poland and gave them guarantees against Germany so they wouldn't negotiate and relinquish the small portion of Poland that the Germans wanted back. (All while knowing that Russia was going to invade Poland and the rest of eastern Europe after Germany popped it off.) There wouldn't have been a WW2 had that not happened.
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Lutz..that paper was from WW1***
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Jan 20, 2023, 9:56 AM
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Lutz the comparison is about WW2, not WW1.***
Jan 20, 2023, 9:57 AM
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It doesn't appear so
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Jan 20, 2023, 10:14 AM
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That paper was from 1915.
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No sh** sherlock
Jan 20, 2023, 10:17 AM
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did you miss the part where I said "I'm not going to fall for your trolling?"
I was talking about WW2, not WW1. I maintained my point on WW2. Try to keep up.
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Just admit you were wrong, and move on.
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Jan 20, 2023, 10:41 AM
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It's ok man, there's no conspiracy.
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Re: No sh** sherlock
Jan 20, 2023, 10:52 AM
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Comrade Tom is taking a Friday morning beat down. Lol
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Re: It doesn't appear so
Jan 20, 2023, 7:42 PM
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Ouch. And quoz steps on a rake. Good catch. Jerk. (Sniff!)
Definitely shoulda looked closer, I googled and pounced...so I guess I do deserve the rake in the face.
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Re: To date, we have sent Ukraine 113 $BILLION in 2022
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Jan 20, 2023, 9:18 AM
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And yet we couldn't come up with a measly five billion to build a wall to stop our own country from being invaded. If millions of Russians just decided to walk into Ukraine and wreck their economy/culture without a shot being fired would we expect a different response from our govt or do we only care about invasions that involve tanks and guns?
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Re: To date, we have sent Ukraine 113 $BILLION in 2022
Jan 20, 2023, 9:22 AM
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I was told Mexico was going to pay for the useless wall that has been cut thousands of times with tools bought from Home Depot. Try again.
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Re: To date, we have sent Ukraine 113 $BILLION in 2022
Jan 20, 2023, 10:33 AM
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I was told Mexico was going to pay for the useless wall that has been cut thousands of times with tools bought from Home Depot. Try again.
Yet the dems want to continue to maintain it? Try harder Birm!
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Re: To date, we have sent Ukraine 113 $BILLION in 2022
Jan 20, 2023, 10:56 AM
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NCTigerFan23 claimed that the wall would stop our country from being "invaded". Do you agree that narrative is a load of crap, seeing how the Big, Beautiful, Inpenetratable wall has been breached thousands of times already with simple hand tools? LOL.
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Re: To date, we have sent Ukraine 113 $BILLION in 2022
Jan 20, 2023, 10:14 AM
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Good. The US, Europe, and the rest of the free world are supporting a sovereign nation that wants to be an ally of ours, fighting against an aggressor that is launching missiles into apartment buildings. Not only is it the right thing to do, it’s cost us a fraction of our military budget to deplete the conventional war capacity of an unstable dictator.
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Re: To date, we have sent Ukraine 113 $BILLION in 2022
Jan 20, 2023, 4:24 PM
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Look how much was wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.
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Eh, we could cut a lot of bloat in government and save
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Jan 20, 2023, 7:23 PM
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a LOT more than that. I’m ok with funding Ukraine. I’m more concerned about the other trillions wasted by our government on other needless stuff.
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