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YOUR BALANCE
JK, FM, and the Brad Divide
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JK, FM, and the Brad Divide

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Feb 10, 2025, 10:31 AM
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I've posted a good bit on here about Brad, plenty of it negative, and I've come to atone and to set the record straight on the great Brad debate.

We have here on tnet the Kellerites, who worship at the feet of the Brad, and the Marionists, who mock and deride Brad's long tenure and lack of consistent NCAAT bids, his vice principalness, his shoving kids during play, etc. Mostly, I've come down with those of the latter party. No more after the Duke game.

I'm ready to concede. Brad is the greatest Clemson basketball coach of all time. Chase Hunter, the ultimate Brad player, the sixth year senior with a shot at an ACC title this year, the guy with the most tourney wins by a Tiger in history, the undisputed leader of this team, is the greatest Tiger baller ever.

Rename it Littlebrad Colliseum, Coach Brad Court, build a statue, I'm all in. That said, if the BOT decides to fire Brad at the end of this season, I'm also in favor of that. Pay him whatever it takes to unload him.

Hope that settles it for good and that now we can all adopt the stance I've laid out and move on.

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Im going to hold out on the court renaming

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Feb 10, 2025, 10:43 AM
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until Clemson wins its first ACC tournament.

You wouldn’t believe how many paint cans I’ve had to throw away due to expired shelf life.

I am happy for this current team and really enjoyed the last two seasons. Let’s go be special.

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To be clear

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Feb 10, 2025, 10:47 AM
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I am a documented Brad Brownell defender.

Thank you.

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Same here

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Feb 10, 2025, 10:59 AM
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I know we all feel silly having to point out such things. Thanks for your humility in doing so. It's truly amazing how much we're really all on the same page. Thank goodness for tnet (and for Brad).

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Re: JK, FM, and the Brad Divide

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Feb 10, 2025, 10:54 AM
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Yeah, I’m not sure there is a basketball divide b/t those two. FM is very much aligned with JK’s Brad support and I wonder sometimes if they aren’t the same person.

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Re: JK, FM, and the Brad Divide

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Feb 10, 2025, 10:59 AM
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FM’s too busy hobnobbing with Duke fans at High Cottons Sunday brunch to be 2 people.

However, I can vouch for his unquestioned affinity and support of CBB.

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Re: JK, FM, and the Brad Divide

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Feb 10, 2025, 11:21 AM [ in reply to Re: JK, FM, and the Brad Divide ]
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If you ever find a girl that looks at you the way JK looks at Brad, marry her.

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I did that

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Feb 10, 2025, 11:25 AM
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Working out great so far.

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Brad is still just Brad.

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Feb 10, 2025, 11:04 AM
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And Clemson is still just Clemson.

Marion does write positive things about Brownell. Whereas Keller rarely if ever writes positive things about Swinney.

I'd liken Marion to the '93 Cowboys and Keller to the '93 Bills. Both teams were really good, but only one was truly great.

The point being that there is no real divide over Brownell. There is, however, a divide over whether the basketball program is resourced optimally, and whether that factors in to the program's inability to win the league, much less a national title.

As for Brownell, there's no real point in discussing or even crowning him the greatest of all Clemson basketball coaches, because it's not saying much.

It's the ultimate "in the kingdom of the blind, one-eyed man is king" debate.

It'd be the same conversation we'd be having about Dabo Swinney had he never won the ACC or a natty but had merely been to a couple of CFPs as an at-large bid, which is basically all Brownell has accomplished.

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Re: Brad is still just Brad.

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Feb 10, 2025, 12:52 PM
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Brad is our living legend regarding basketball. That is just a fact!

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Re: Brad is still just Brad.


Feb 10, 2025, 6:50 PM [ in reply to Brad is still just Brad. ]
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A1ASauce® said:

And Clemson is still just Clemson.

Marion does write positive things about Brownell. Whereas Keller rarely if ever writes positive things about Swinney.

I'd liken Marion to the '93 Cowboys and Keller to the '93 Bills. Both teams were really good, but only one was truly great.

The point being that there is no real divide over Brownell. There is, however, a divide over whether the basketball program is resourced optimally, and whether that factors in to the program's inability to win the league, much less a national title.

As for Brownell, there's no real point in discussing or even crowning him the greatest of all Clemson basketball coaches, because it's not saying much.

It's the ultimate "in the kingdom of the blind, one-eyed man is king" debate.

It'd be the same conversation we'd be having about Dabo Swinney had he never won the ACC or a natty but had merely been to a couple of CFPs as an at-large bid, which is basically all Brownell has accomplished.




If you go back a few years, JK was posting reasonable stuff. Seems the LF would not relent which broke him so he went scorched earth. It now seems he broke a bunch of y’all by mirroring what he was given

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Re: Brad is still just Brad.

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Feb 10, 2025, 7:49 PM
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Yes it’s everyone else’s fault for his behavior.

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Re: JK, FM, and the Brad Divide

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Feb 10, 2025, 11:34 AM
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I’m a Clemson fan and support Coach Brownell, but losses are always tough, regardless of the sport. I also know Clemson is not a Basketball powerhouse (yet) like we are in Football, so it might take time. I saw what Dabo did and now see Brad could do the same here.

Gotta support the team.

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I don't think Brad could or will do what Dabo did

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Feb 10, 2025, 11:45 AM
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or he'd have done it by now, given his tenure and Dabo's are very similar.

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"I think we all realize that Dabo is an expert in his field." - J. Keller


Brad hasnt had nearly the advantages Dabo has.

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Feb 10, 2025, 5:24 PM
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Comparing the two as if they both started on equal footing is ridiculous.

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Judge, that new picture is stunning

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Feb 10, 2025, 5:54 PM
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Never change it.

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Re: JK, FM, and the Brad Divide

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Feb 10, 2025, 11:53 AM
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FM making fun of JK and the one or two other people and all their alternate ids doesn't make him anti-Brad.

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I beg to differ


Feb 10, 2025, 1:35 PM
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I'm not gonna let FM have it both ways. He's either with Brad 100% or he's against him. Now, let's get Braddlejohn on the building facade, get that statue built, and fire Brad.

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"Littlebrad"?....

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Feb 10, 2025, 4:21 PM
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😂😂🤣🤣

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Re: "Littlebrad"?....


Feb 10, 2025, 5:57 PM
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I'm fine with Braddlejohn too.

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Thats taken already


Feb 10, 2025, 7:50 PM [ in reply to "Littlebrad"?.... ]
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Judge Keller®

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Welp...Only one way to settle this once and for all

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Feb 10, 2025, 4:27 PM
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Re: JK, FM, and the Brad Divide

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Feb 10, 2025, 5:05 PM
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I love guys who think they somehow deserve to speak for others…

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me too


Feb 10, 2025, 6:00 PM
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Guys, I think what slwcu79 is trying to say is that he appreciates the effort and thought that went into making this funny post about brad, tnet, and tnet posters. He got a good laugh at it, and he says thank you to the OP.

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