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Rock Defender [54]
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Thoughts on recruiting and such
Feb 5, 2013, 1:17 PM
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In my opinion, the loss of Montravious Adams isn't that big of a deal. Although he is a program changer, we don't really need him at this point. After all, at DT we have Pagano coming in, along with Reader, Watkins, Watson,and Jarrett who are all very young. Who we really need this year that isn't already committed is Alexander. After all, recruiting is all about needs, and If Alexander jumps on board then I feel that our defensive needs will be filled with this class. All we really need is depth in the secondary.
I am worried about recruiting against the SEC in the future. The hype that goes along with the SEC is only continuing to grow, and I think that if we are serious about football, we need to get out of the ACC. The ACC is only getting weaker, and that is going to hurt us on the recruiting trail.
I don't really post on here much, but I really think a lot of people on this board need a reality check. Dabo is continuing to do a great job recruiting, and I think that he has us set up for a great year in 2014.
Thoughts?
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Recruit [91]
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Re: Thoughts on recruiting and such
Feb 5, 2013, 1:23 PM
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Agree w most of what ure saying. If the eSECpn propaganda machine stops touting it so much it will go away. At some point, they're gonna realize they televise other teams too and beating them down only defeats their own purpose.
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It is a big deal, precisely because of the start of your 2nd
Feb 5, 2013, 1:26 PM
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sentence..."Although he is a program changer".
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and if we don't land alexander you'll say the same.......
Feb 5, 2013, 1:28 PM
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not that big a deal.....blah, blah
when in actuality it IS a big deal, it may seem like just ONE or TWO players NOW, but players like this are, as you said, PROGRAM CHANGERS.
James and CJ DESPITE an OC that IMO didn't FULLY utilize their talents........they still gave clemson a "shot in the arm" just from their RAW talent alone.
Look what Tajh and Sammy did........INSTANTLY turned our Offense around
Look at SCar.....they get lattimore......and as a FRESHMAN they literally rode them to an SECCG (a place they'd never gone before)
they land Clowney.....a program changer on defense (without them they lose minimum 2 more games this past year)
so it may seem like ONE guy, but to get in the National picture and it seems just to beat SCAR we need to hit on these defensive program changers
will we survive?...of course.....will it take longer? quite possibly, but the National Title winners/contenders Land those guys
but he!! at this point i'm not concerned with winning a national title.......11-1/10-2 AND beat South Carolina is ALL I WANT
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Legend [19210]
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blah, blah, blah (more of the same) blah blah***
Feb 5, 2013, 1:32 PM
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I've been waitin' but not seein'........
Feb 5, 2013, 1:33 PM
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4 years now
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Legend [19210]
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Beat Auburn 2X, VT 2X, FSU 1 time, LSU 1 time,
Feb 5, 2013, 1:35 PM
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ACC title, 3 division titles, Bobby Dodd coach of the year, 21-6 the last 2 years.
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still no meat in the spaghetti sauce....good..not great***
Feb 5, 2013, 1:39 PM
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Legend [19210]
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What do you call not winning the ACC or big games like LSU
Feb 5, 2013, 1:43 PM
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for over 20+ years? Meat? Sauce? Spaghetti?
I like the meal in front of us now. But we can cook an even better one in the near future.
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like i said.....
Feb 5, 2013, 1:47 PM
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it's been ok/good..........but no season is GREAT when we CLEMSNON loses to SOUTH CAROLINA
to each his own.......you don't think beating SCar is a big deal.............I do
if we go 11-1/10-2 with a win over SCar I wont care what bowl we go to or if we're in the ACCCG
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Legend [19210]
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I do think it is big but it is not the end all. 1-10 with a
Feb 5, 2013, 1:49 PM
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win against the Coots doesn't excite me.
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Legend [19210]
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Oh, I live in Cooterville so you know how that goes as far
Feb 5, 2013, 1:49 PM
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as me wanting a win.
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Re: me neither.....that's why i say 11-1/10-2 beat SCar
Feb 5, 2013, 3:28 PM
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Wow, pheebo, maybe we need to have an indepth look at your life and career and assess your progress toward total excellence. What would we find, pheebo?
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Re: like i said.....
Feb 5, 2013, 3:23 PM
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You, sir, are entitled to your opinion, and IMHO, you are extremely narrow minded. All of the Tiger Nation wants to beat the Coots, but having a National Championship program is more important to this 1962 graduate. If we have that National Championship type program, we will not have to worry about beating the Coots. Lastly, are you married to a Coot supporter, etc.?
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Re: Beat Auburn 2X, VT 2X, FSU 1 time, LSU 1 time,
Feb 5, 2013, 3:14 PM
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AN OUTSTANDING POST, AThomas!!!
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Orange Blooded [2609]
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Re: I've been waitin' but not seein'........
Feb 5, 2013, 3:12 PM
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pheebo, your problem is that you seem to evaluate our entire season based on what we do against USC! A very narrow perspective, in my view! Yes, I want to beat the Coots, but developing a very successful program is more important to me and then we will begin to beat the Coots again. Jeez, we have a history of beating them!!!
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...yes, but...
Feb 5, 2013, 1:52 PM
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Our program is already headed in the right direction, thanks to those aforementioned. Would it be an outstanding addition to our team to add Adams? Yes. But with the talent we have in place, and the others that we're bringing in tomorrow, we don't NEED Adams. Our program is NOT going to fall apart because Adams doesn't sign with us tomorrow.
We still have a strong shot at Alexander & I believe he will be more valuable to us than Adams would have been anyway.
Even if we lose on both, we're still in good shape. Everyone we get tomorrow is just icing on the cake!
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fall apart?......no....hold us back a little? possibly......
Feb 5, 2013, 2:01 PM
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ONE PLAYER
where would we be if we landed Clowney 2 years ago?
speculation yes, but if you don't think we play for the National title then I think you're fooling yourself, I know we beat SCar........FSU woulda been a nail biter
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Orange Blooded [2680]
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Re: fall apart?......no....hold us back a little? possibly......
Feb 5, 2013, 3:31 PM
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pheebo, you are inhabited by demons, big guy, with your obsessions. I am convinced you are married to a Coot or have family that are Coots!!
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I believe Clemson dominating in the ACC and the playoff
Feb 5, 2013, 1:33 PM
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format will stop some of this SEC hype machine. UL coming on board is another huge factor.
We've made it this far and the truth will soon emerge, imo.
Go Tigers!!!
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Let me broaden your insight a little more.
Feb 5, 2013, 1:39 PM
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Losing a few player to a conference is better than losing a few to one team. Having the talent spread throughout a conference is good for two reasons. No one team will control all that talent and neither Clemson nor any other team face them all in one game.
We also should be comforted with the fact that those players won't be in the ACC playing for our conference foes.
Now, why do you react like all those players went to FSU or GT? Heck, even USuCk didn't get a single one of them.
Therefore, the sky is not falling and the world will not end for Clemson.
The bigger they are the harder they fall!
Clemson 25 LSU 24
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Re: Let me broaden your insight a little more.
Feb 5, 2013, 3:39 PM
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"Losing a few player to a conference is better than losing a few to one team. Having the talent spread throughout a conference is good for two reasons. No one team will control all that talent and neither Clemson nor any other team face them all in one game."
Wow, I certainly disagree with the "having the talent spread throughout a conference" scenario. I want us to dominate the recruiting in our conference and dominate the wins because of our excellence in recruiting. If the other teams in the ACC want to compete for the championship, then they need to upgrade their program to compete. Mediocrity will not cut it if you want to play for a championship, PERIOD!!
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We stand apart from ACC...we sell Clemson not a conference***
Feb 5, 2013, 1:43 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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The sky is not falling
Feb 5, 2013, 1:46 PM
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Maybe I should have said losing MA isn't as big of a deal as many of you think. Having him on board would be outstanding, but he isn't as big of a need as Alexander. We already have depth at defensive tackle and they are all young! I am by no means a pumper, but I do see that the future is bright for Clemson football regardless if we get Adams. It is hard to recruit against the SEC but obviously Dabo is doing a good job since our class is better than UCS's even though they're in the SEC
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Re: The sky is not falling
Feb 5, 2013, 1:57 PM
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The way I figure it, all these big time 5 star guys saw how Clemson kicked #### in the SEC this year and figured LSU and Auburn needs help a lot more than we do! They may be right. If we had taken care of business with the chickens, we may not have any top flight recruits coming in this year. I guess we should be thankful that we lost a game!!!! 2014 may be a terrible year for Dabo after we clean the table.
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yeah that is why the big 12 as a whole has 9 top 150
Feb 5, 2013, 3:31 PM
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ACC is ahead of the by good margarine in 150 and 300
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