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I don't envy you folks with young kids/teens these days....
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I don't envy you folks with young kids/teens these days....

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Dec 11, 2024, 5:37 PM
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https://www.npr.org/2024/12/10/nx-s1-5222574/kids-character-ai-lawsuit


The sheer amount of digital social media and now social interactions powered by AI coming out that can quickly become addictive to young folks (as well as some adults) is mind blowing. It's almost as if these AI companies are designing stuff with the very intention of turning youthful users into digital addicts....


It feels like we rush through every technological innovation without ever really determining or understanding the risk it poses to our human psyche. At times I feel like we are nothing but a bunch of monkeys playing with an AI branded microwave oven....

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they would never get kids addicted to AI content, nevar ;-)


Dec 11, 2024, 6:02 PM
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All social media companies are doing this for years

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"something in these hills..." -joe sherman


Back in the day we could just sneak out and have a few cigarettes

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Dec 11, 2024, 6:24 PM
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Curtesy of our corporate friends at RJ Reynolds and Phillip Morris.

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Marlboro Man and all the Marlboro gear (actually quite nice)...***

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Dec 12, 2024, 12:01 AM
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Marlboro Man: No doubt an Iconic advertising campaign.***


Dec 12, 2024, 7:18 AM
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Man, it's effing us over, too. Not just the kids.

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Dec 12, 2024, 8:04 AM
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It's more worrisome for the kids when we factor in TikTok and China using it to datamine them and subvert them against America since they're our fighting force.

But it's latching on to us as well. Look how gullible some people are here when it comes to social media.

I still can't fathom how anyone looks at this AI stuff and thinks it's a good idea.

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I do not envy adults that are not using current;y AI


Dec 12, 2024, 12:07 PM
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to enhance and streamline their performance and think they will have a job in 3 years.

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Re: I don't envy you folks with young kids/teens these days....


Dec 12, 2024, 1:24 PM
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This is really not new. Ever since man discovered fire. For every "good" use of any new innovation, technology, discovery there's someone out there contemplating the "bad".

Another age old conundrum as old as science itself: Just because we have the intelligence to do something, does that mean we should? We've been wrestling with morals/ethics vs science ever since we realized we had both.

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I'm not sure what the end game will be for humanity with AI


Dec 12, 2024, 1:40 PM
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But it certainly doesn't bode well for democratic institutions. AI is becoming increasingly harder to discern from what's real. Young people are bombarded with misleading information, but even adults can't decipher what's authentic or ask critical thinking questions to seek the truth. They'll believe any #### thing that's on Twitter as long as they like what it says.

Americans' faith in democratic institutions is fading and AI coupled with bad people will push us to the end.

And even after that, I see two really bad scenarios for humanity: Either we become too dependent on it and the bottom falls out, leaving us unable to know how to do simple survival tasks, or AI ends up like a the sci-fi movies: it eventually realizes it doesn't need us or that we're a disease, and it seeks to control us... or worse.

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Re: I'm not sure what the end game will be for humanity with AI


Dec 12, 2024, 2:02 PM
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Well, referring to the OP:

Having 2 that are now out of the K-12 public system, I keep wondering what happens to the educational system (public and private)? There was very little inspiration to LEARN. And why should they? Everything they need to know is in the palm of their hand. They aren't teaching them to spell. They're teaching them how to use spellcheck. A college prof friend of mine said he can teach anything except intellectual curiosity. Kids need to understand that school isn't about learning the right answer. And even less about where to find the right answer online. It's about learning to think. THAT, is the failure of the educational system. Kids need the desire to learn. Where does that come from? And why is it disappearing?

As my kids got older and began doing things without my direct supervision, I remembered something my sister told me when raising her two: "You eventually reach a point where you have to believe that you raised them right". At this point, one college grad, one in college they have made pretty good life decisions. They also developed pretty good BS detectors. That was developed by their mother and I and our continued involvement in their lives at home and church. Now, you can call out the BS in my life and even the BS you may believe to be the church. But it has thus far been a good positive experience surrounded by a lot of people that actually took an interest in their lives.

As for our democratic institutions, I believe the humans had more to do with the loss of faith than the technology.

I'm not ready to write off the human race just yet.

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Re: I'm not sure what the end game will be for humanity with AI

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Dec 12, 2024, 2:12 PM
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Having 2 that are now out of the K-12 public system, I keep wondering what happens to the educational system (public and private)? There was very little inspiration to LEARN. And why should they? Everything they need to know is in the palm of their hand. They aren't teaching them to spell. They're teaching them how to use spellcheck. A college prof friend of mine said he can teach anything except intellectual curiosity. Kids need to understand that school isn't about learning the right answer. And even less about where to find the right answer online. It's about learning to think. THAT, is the failure of the educational system. Kids need the desire to learn. Where does that come from? And why is it disappearing?


To give a very brief answer to that, one of the biggest problems is that attempting to get students to explore intellectual curiosity or critical thinking is being met with hostility, accusations of indoctrination, public ridicule, and other absurdities from the public. Thus, the system has self-neutered to produce, as you say, just a push to get the right answer online or just focus on test scores.

But as you mention, yeah, it's been made too easy with technology instead of figuring it out.

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Check this out... Google is working on AI to browse the web for us...


Dec 12, 2024, 4:48 PM
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After all - who has time for seeking information, reading and clicking.... I can't think of anything more lazy than using AI for this... What's next - having an AI toilet that somehow takes a dump for us??

https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/11/google-unveils-project-mariner-ai-agents-to-use-the-web-for-you/

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Its been there for a while


Dec 12, 2024, 7:48 PM
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You do not need to search, for example, for some reference to read to find the answer to your question.

Just ask the AI the question directly.

Today I needed to look up the URLs of about 15 companies with a few pieces of data...I simply asked Claude to create a table for me. Voila!

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