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Orange Blooded [2305]
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with Dabo publicly admitting he isn't going to get in a bidding war, deep
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Oct 15, 2024, 8:43 AM
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pockets are going to come after our recruits. I hope NCAA will make fair changes in NIL soon
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Commissioner [1242]
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Re: with Dabo publicly admitting he isn't going to get in a bidding war, deep
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Oct 15, 2024, 8:49 AM
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Ain't happening either change or get left behind and u see the train is not stopping.
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All-In [10276]
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Ring of Honor [23805]
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They don't, they just spout what the media tells them to.
Oct 15, 2024, 10:24 AM
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The New revenue sharing plan will level the field .
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Rival Killer [2918]
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No, it won't, because RS won't affect NIL at all******
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Oct 15, 2024, 10:26 AM
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All-In [10276]
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Re: No, it won't, because RS won't affect NIL at all******
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Oct 15, 2024, 10:43 AM
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Read the article
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Rival Killer [2918]
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Again, revenue sharing won't affect NIL at all.
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Oct 15, 2024, 10:55 AM
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Revenue sharing is the schools paying athletes directly with money they make from ticket sales and TV contracts.
NIL is a private deal between an athlete and a sponsor. The NCAA can't regulate that or interfere with it in any way.
The article tries to conflate two different things.
The big NIL schools will still have the offset from those that don't have that.
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All-In [10276]
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Re: Again, revenue sharing won't affect NIL at all.
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Oct 15, 2024, 12:02 PM
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Revenue sharing is the schools paying athletes directly with money they make from ticket sales and TV contracts.
NIL is a private deal between an athlete and a sponsor. The NCAA can't regulate that or interfere with it in any way.
The article tries to conflate two different things.
The big NIL schools will still have the offset from those that don't have that.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/40658452/ncaa-lawsuit-settlement-paying-players
Yes it will. There can still be NIL but it would need to be approved by an independent clearing house meaning a player can’t get a million bucks for using their pic on a billboard
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Game Changer [1872]
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That is 100% not going to be legal by the constitution and the courts recent
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Oct 15, 2024, 12:26 PM
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decisions. you can not regulate how a person gets paid by his/her name or likeness.
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110%er [3927]
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Re: That is 100% not going to be legal by the constitution and the courts recent
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Oct 15, 2024, 8:15 PM
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The constitution has NIL laws? I knew those boys were ahead of their time but ####…
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Rival Killer [2918]
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The Constitution doesn't.
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Oct 15, 2024, 8:30 PM
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Federal law does
The Sherman Antitrust Act and the Interstate Commerce Act.
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110%er [3927]
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Re: The Constitution doesn't.
Oct 15, 2024, 9:37 PM
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What’s your point?
I was responding to the claim it won’t be legal by the constitution
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Solid Orange [1359]
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Re: The Constitution doesn't.
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Oct 16, 2024, 2:15 AM
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Read Kavanaugh's opinion, because you just seem stupid.
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Solid Orange [1359]
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Re: Again, revenue sharing won't affect NIL at all.
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Oct 16, 2024, 2:17 AM
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The article you cited even there says that legal experts and NIL collectives "remain skeptical that the NCAA will be able to effectively (and legally) prevent boosters from spending money aimed at making their teams better." What we're going to see is NIL boosters continuing to offer money. If the NCAA tries to stop them, they'll sue. Kavanaugh's opinion was pretty explicit here.
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Oculus Spirit [39914]
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Re: Again, revenue sharing won't affect NIL at all.
Oct 16, 2024, 5:50 AM
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Good call it what it is “pay for play” and cap the teams.
The whole deal will of course need an overhaul to get that last part accomplished.
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Rival Killer [2918]
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Reve he sharing can legally be capped.
Oct 16, 2024, 11:07 AM
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Private NIL cannot. Not individually, not collectively, not at all. Nada. None. Bupkis.
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Oculus Spirit [39914]
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Re: Again, revenue sharing won't affect NIL at all.
Oct 16, 2024, 5:48 AM
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Revenue sharing is the schools paying athletes directly with money they make from ticket sales and TV contracts.
NIL is a private deal between an athlete and a sponsor. The NCAA can't regulate that or interfere with it in any way.
The article tries to conflate two different things.
The big NIL schools will still have the offset from those that don't have that.
Love how you now call it a sponsor. Does not sound much like Name, image or likeness. Wake up Bluff, your Supreme Court ruling has ZERO to do with what is happening.
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Rival Killer [2918]
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I'm wide awake. You're wrong.
Oct 16, 2024, 11:17 AM
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The SCOTUS decision is one of several things that collectively say that the NCAA can't interfere with private NIL. Period.
What anyone thinks was the supposed intent isn't pertinent.
What is happening us that the NCAA is trying to muddy the waters by conflating revenue sharing with potential school sponsored NIL and private NIL in another backdoor way to get some control over private NIL.
That has already backfired in them.
The settlement in the House vs NCAA case has been out on hold by the federal judge in Cali partially due to that. Partially because the involved athletes are talking about the NCAA claiming they have the right to decide what is "legitimate" NIL. (They don't).
Another issue about that clause in the settlement conflicts with the injunction in the Tennessee/Virginia vs NCAA case, which is 100% about private NIL. Federal judges don't like to go against other federal judges when non-ideological issues are involved. Too easy to get overturned on appeal and embarrassed that way.
The bottom line is that the NCAA is trying to confuse the issue. Don't fall for it, don't believe it, and if you bet, get against them getting ANY control over a business deal between two other private entities.
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Ring of Honor [22902]
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Rival Killer [2918]
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Echolalia, much******
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Oct 15, 2024, 8:30 PM
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Oculus Spirit [39914]
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Re: Echolalia, much******
Oct 16, 2024, 5:45 AM
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Every time!
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Gridiron Giant [16026]
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Re: with Dabo publicly admitting he isn't going to get in a bidding war, deep
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Oct 15, 2024, 9:24 AM
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This has been happening since before Dabo. It's just within the rules and gets the press it didn't before.
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Rival Killer [2918]
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The NCAA can't interfere with or regulate NIL in any way.
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Oct 15, 2024, 9:48 AM
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That train has left the station. It's not coming back. The station is on fire and the tracks are being torn up like happened to the Swamp Rabbit rail line.
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Campus Hero [13710]
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Re: with Dabo publicly admitting he isn't going to get in a bidding war, deep
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Oct 15, 2024, 10:04 AM
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Change with the times are get used to Pop-Tart and Mayonnaise Bowls if you're lucky.
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Campus Hero [13710]
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Re: with Dabo publicly admitting he isn't going to get in a bidding war, deep
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***or
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Tiger Spirit [9973]
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Re: with Dabo publicly admitting he isn't going to get in a bidding war, deep
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Oct 15, 2024, 10:15 AM
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Another person who does not understand NIL. Sad.
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Oculus Spirit [39914]
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Oct 16, 2024, 5:58 AM
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Valley everyone understands NIL. It’s the pay for play with NIL facades that everyone has twisted up. Totally separate. NIL is a good thing but the lack of competitive integrity has brought up other issues like tampering and some wanting to RS because they want more money. 2 that we know of in the last month.
It’s sad, you are correct, but not for the reason you state.
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Game Changer [1849]
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Re: with Dabo publicly admitting he isn't going to get in a bidding war, deep
Oct 15, 2024, 10:16 AM
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Deep pockets will be coming after current players too.
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Rival Killer [2918]
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Just like corporate headhunting
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Oct 15, 2024, 10:56 AM
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In the business world.
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Dynasty Maker [3415]
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Re: with Dabo publicly admitting he isn't going to get in a bidding war, deep
Oct 15, 2024, 12:45 PM
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With revenue sharing beginning July 1st NIL will be a non factor.
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Rival Killer [2918]
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Revenue sharing will have zero effect on private NIL.
Oct 15, 2024, 8:32 PM
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It's completely separate.
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Solid Orange [1359]
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Re: with Dabo publicly admitting he isn't going to get in a bidding war, deep
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Wrong. Revenue sharing is how colleges will pay players directly. Players still have the rights over their own names, images, and likenesses and can negotiate their own endorsement contracts.
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Rival Killer [2918]
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How, exactly, is the NCAA going to do that?
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Oct 15, 2024, 8:27 PM
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Please objectively define "fair", as well.
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