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Well it didnt take long for Trump to cave on tariffs
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Well it didnt take long for Trump to cave on tariffs

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Feb 3, 2025, 11:51 AM
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with Mexico. All we got was some troops at the border? Why would he give up so quickly on the opportunity to make America financially greater? Was he scared off by the markets dropping a few percent?

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Feb 3, 2025, 11:57 AM
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The Great Mexico Trade War Feb 2025-Feb 2025. Rip.

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We gave up on it before it even started.***


Feb 3, 2025, 12:00 PM
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"Just announce that you are sending troops to the border. We'll take if from

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Feb 3, 2025, 11:58 AM
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there." Sounds familiar.

Trump has been bombarded with calls from rich people warning about his tariffs and a potential trade war. Once he saw the markets confirm their warnings he had to find a way to save face and calm the markets.

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The greatest negotiator of our lifetimes.

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Feb 3, 2025, 12:00 PM
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Who apparently forgot that his predecessor got Mexico to send 10K troops to the border more than once, WITHOUT tanking the market to do so.

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Trump's advisors should have told him about that before he agreed to it.


Feb 3, 2025, 12:12 PM
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Did they even know?

He got played.

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The difference is they were helping the cartels during Biden... That'll change


Feb 3, 2025, 9:19 PM [ in reply to The greatest negotiator of our lifetimes. ]
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or the tariffs will be initiated again in a month.

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You claim the Mexican military was helping the cartels...


Feb 4, 2025, 7:51 AM
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when they sent troops to the border...how is it that you know that?

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There are documented accounts through the years. Do your own research.***


Feb 4, 2025, 7:59 AM
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Documented accounts through the years?...


Feb 4, 2025, 8:03 AM
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You made the claim...back it up.

I did do quick research and didn't see any mention of this.

I'm not saying there's not been cases of someone in the military helping the cartels, but that's not the same as saying 10,000 Mexican troops were sent to the border to help stop illegal immigration, but instead the military helped the cartels.

You're the one making bold claims, so, again, back it up.

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Wait til we start going after the banks under the 'terrorism statutes'...


Feb 4, 2025, 8:13 AM
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I've been calling for it for years. I think it's just around the corner, now.

You don't really think they're actively pursuing the cartels, do you?

"You can't just cut the head off the snake. It's a conglomerate..."

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This is a fancy "I got nothing" reply***


Feb 4, 2025, 9:00 AM
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Then prove it wrong... You got the floor.***


Feb 4, 2025, 9:04 AM
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That's not how it works broseph...


Feb 4, 2025, 9:09 AM
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you made the claim...YOU have to prove it.

I don't have to prove you wrong.

Stop being a {}

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The Spaghetti Monster is real. He is the one true deity.


Feb 4, 2025, 8:05 AM [ in reply to There are documented accounts through the years. Do your own research.*** ]
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There are documented accounts out there. Do you own research.

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The Do Your Own Research crowd sure is bad at


Feb 4, 2025, 9:03 AM
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researching factual information.

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Neither side caved. Mostly political theater and wild gesticulation per link

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Feb 3, 2025, 12:02 PM
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https://invezz.com/news/2025/02/03/what-is-the-fentanyl-crisis-at-the-centre-of-trump-tariffs-against-china-mexico-and-canada/

10,000 Mexican troops to combat the cartels at their “labs” rather than the border maybe a better use.

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Probably better than missiles... Could get messy.***


Feb 3, 2025, 9:20 PM
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Re: Neither side caved. Mostly political theater and wild gesticulation per link


Feb 3, 2025, 9:28 PM [ in reply to Neither side caved. Mostly political theater and wild gesticulation per link ]
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Delta Force will handle the cartels

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Probably announced this to the Mexican President...


Feb 3, 2025, 9:41 PM [ in reply to Neither side caved. Mostly political theater and wild gesticulation per link ]
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https://www.zerohedge.com/military/usaf-spy-plane-runs-sigint-operation-near-cabo-us-preps-potential-cartel-fight

Reconnaissance before the storm.

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Feb 3, 2025, 12:07 PM
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And we are paying them for those troops too. That said, it's a good thing. We needed it.

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Feb 3, 2025, 12:10 PM
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Mexican troops were already there and have been for some time. 😆 🤣 😂

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Feb 3, 2025, 12:12 PM
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No. There is more moving there and they weren't there in the numbers. We are paying them to increase their numbers and to stop migrants. Same as it was when he was in office last time.

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Feb 3, 2025, 12:19 PM
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Yes, Mexican troops have already been deployed at the border. Some were attacked just last week.

https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/crime/2025/01/30/border-patrol-mexico-soldiers-attack-on-el-paso-juarez-rio-grande-border/78029949007/

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Feb 3, 2025, 9:33 PM
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I'll sell you some HOT property in Pacific Palisades

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Feb 3, 2025, 9:29 PM [ in reply to Re: Well it didnt take long for Trump to cave on tariffs ]
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Doing what? Registering Democrats for the US election

You are a complete moron

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et tu Canada

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Feb 3, 2025, 5:07 PM
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Trump is pausing 30 days now on tariffs on Canada, as well as Mexico earlier this morning. If tariffs are such a great thing to take us to great prosperity, why would DJT punish us by hinting at the great prosperity tariffs would bring America and then pull out the rug from us just hours before this Golden Age was to begin.

The following article states it well.

https://reason.com/2025/02/03/trumps-theory-of-tariffs-makes-no-sense/?utm_medium=reason_email&utm_source=new_at_reason&utm_campaign=reason_brand&utm_content=Trump%27s%20Theory%20of%20Tariffs%20Makes%20No%20Sense&utm_term=&time=February%203rd,%202025&mpid=973752&mpweb=2534-5653-973752

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Re: et tu Canada

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Feb 3, 2025, 7:28 PM
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With all respect, the linked article reflects a lack of understanding about how hard ball negotiations are done.

Trump’s primary direct objectives with both Mexico and Canada is to get them to control their borders(to significantly reduce the influx of drugs and undesirable illegal aliens, and reduce barriers to trade for American goods into Mexico & Canada, respectively.

Indirect objectives are to discourage foreign investment in Mexico for goods which are to be made predominantly for the American marketplace.

Sophisticated negotiators don’t reveal how their intended objectives are to be met via an obvious tactic.

I’ll admit to having never participated in a negotiation involving politician. (My role in negotiations are usually behind the scenes stuff; my experience is in B2B realm.)

From Trump’s first term, we know that he says things for public dissemination that makes the public think that they understand both the objectives of a negotiation and the tactics by which the objective will be achieved. By now, attentive Americans should realize that his stated objectives are sincere, but that his stated negotiations tactics are smoke and deception. This is the smart thing to do; smart negotiators never publicly reveal all of their tactics and often not all of their objectives.

The linked article exposes an author who doesn’t understand how these things work.

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Feb 3, 2025, 8:58 PM
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With all respect, the linked article reflects a lack of understanding about how hard ball negotiations are done.

Trump’s primary direct objectives with both Mexico and Canada is to get them to control their borders(to significantly reduce the influx of drugs and undesirable illegal aliens, and reduce barriers to trade for American goods into Mexico & Canada, respectively.

Indirect objectives are to discourage foreign investment in Mexico for goods which are to be made predominantly for the American marketplace.

Sophisticated negotiators don’t reveal how their intended objectives are to be met via an obvious tactic.

I’ll admit to having never participated in a negotiation involving politician. (My role in negotiations are usually behind the scenes stuff; my experience is in B2B realm.)

From Trump’s first term, we know that he says things for public dissemination that makes the public think that they understand both the objectives of a negotiation and the tactics by which the objective will be achieved. By now, attentive Americans should realize that his stated objectives are sincere, but that his stated negotiations tactics are smoke and deception. This is the smart thing to do; smart negotiators never publicly reveal all of their tactics and often not all of their objectives.

The linked article exposes an author who doesn’t understand how these things work.


With all due respect to you as well, I fully understand what Trump is trying to do and should do especially in trying to cajole Mexico into doing more to stop the inflow of drugs and illegal aliens into our country. On a lesser scale, I support trying to get Canada to do more as well.

However, a more honest approach would be to threaten these tariffs if these countries don't do more, but not to spread the obvious BS to us that tariffs are great for our country and will lead to prosperity and might well end the need for a federal income tax.

I 100% support Trump's attempts to secure the border and begin to remove people who broke into the country, beginning with the violent ones. I applaud this. Certainly Harris would not have done anything on this matter if she had been elected.

On the other hand I find it dishonest of Trump to tell us that tariffs are going to be good for our economy and lead to great prosperity. That simply isn't true. I also find it very off putting and juvenile of Trump to spout nonsense about bringing in Canada as the 51st state and putting the PM as the Governor. It's also complete nonsense to publicly clown around with Denmark over Greenland.

Every idea and every proposal that Trump is considering isn't bad, but it's beneath the office of the President to speak in a stream of conscious manner and essentially be a bully.

He is simply NOT a statesman and that's just the fact.

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lulz..like you would know about "hardball negotiations"***


Feb 3, 2025, 9:06 PM [ in reply to Re: et tu Canada ]
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Sounds a lot like Columbia. There was already extradition using private

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Feb 3, 2025, 5:11 PM
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aircraft under Biden.

Trump comes in, puts them in handcuffs and on military cargo planes.

Columbian President halts flights and tells Trump to go back to the way it's been done... you know, some human decency.

Trump puts in a tariff

Columbia puts in a retaliatory tariff.

Trump backs down and puts them back on private aircraft without handcuffs

MAGAs everywhere cheer

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I like your funny words magic man


is that what the echo chamber is telling youi


Feb 3, 2025, 9:14 PM
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Do some fact checking LOL

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Ok, fact check me. Tell me why this is such a big win.


Feb 3, 2025, 9:38 PM
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After the promises he made about how great tariffs were, and the threats he made to our neighbors, tell me how these results achieved the big win he spoke of.

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Re: Ok, fact check me. Tell me why this is such a big win.


Feb 4, 2025, 7:39 AM
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I was certain a lot of his crazy the first time around was designed to influence markets so his cronies could profit. I know half of it is that he wants to be a constant topic of conversation. All this attention Elon is getting is bad for his mental health, so expect something off the wall by Friday.

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Major corporate CEOs discussing onshoring with their boards as we post...***


Feb 4, 2025, 8:03 AM [ in reply to Ok, fact check me. Tell me why this is such a big win. ]
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I work for one of the largest companies in America


Feb 4, 2025, 8:45 AM
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both by profit and employee count, and I promise you, they are doing nothing of the sort. They have stated they want a 70/30 mix of "offshore" (India) and onshore labor.

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Good luck.***


Feb 4, 2025, 9:06 AM
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Been happening since COVID supply-chain shock...


Feb 4, 2025, 9:07 AM [ in reply to Major corporate CEOs discussing onshoring with their boards as we post...*** ]
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supply-chain security/reliability was the main push...not tariffs.

The problem is...THERE IS LITTLE-TO-NO DOMESTIC CAPCITY for many type items. We are essentially at full-employment for those that actually want to work.

I mentioned on here yesterday that I was part of round-table forum at the NEMA conference in November and almost unanimously, the CEOs present all said/asked exactly the same question..."where is the labor going to come from for domestic manufacturing expansion?" Availability of quality labor is most company's biggest problem already!

For 4+ years we've been trying to replace the items we purchase out of China with domestically-produced items and we have had a very difficult time. And if we can find a US-source, it's often time 2-3 times the price of the Chinese source, including the 25% tariff. I many cases we tooled up the US source and are running a split-source arrangement to keep the domestic option available, but mitigate some of the cost increases. In many other cases, we can't even find US companies willing to quote on new projects, so we've gone to India and eastern Europe.

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