That's what he said, tampering is a strategy. It takes big money to get the few top players. Also, FSU got busted for tampering with portal players, and many others are guilty. I don't recall the penalties.
As a Clemson fan through the Basketball and Football probations in the 1970's and 1980's, we were damaged us for decades in both sports, and it cost us Danny Ford. Clemson has been clean since then from my observation, and we need to stay that way!
I went to SMU in 1986 for Grad school, and got to know some players on the last football team before the Death Penalty in 1987. The school was guilty, but the football program has never recovered, although it is getting close now, almost 40 years later. They are excited about joining the ACC, a big step up for them now. I definitely don't want to see that again at SMU or Clemson!
Dabo will figure it out, and our football will improve, and he will not be cheating or tampering! It shows how important Taj, DW4 and Trevor were for our program. Cade can still turn it around. Most of the kids in the portal end up losing their scholarship and are out of football. Where are those stories on ESPN, etc.... We kicked Kendrick off the team, he got busted, went to Georgia and won a championship, now in the pros. Now there is a portal success story.....
So is he saying that if they are elite enough to play at Clemson and they are in the portal they’re already spoken for by more elite programs who are willing to ‘tamper’…. So we shouldn’t try?
At the end of the day, tampering is still a clear and express violation of NCAA rules. Players are not supposed to be contacted and are supposed to be off-limits until entering their names into the portal.
Players for whatever reason keep their options open for another school. They simply have their agent/manager/family reach out to multiple colleges/NIL groups to gage their interest and willingness to meet the players price. Once they all agree the player "enters" the portal.
AAU basketball and college football has been doing this for years. Now with NIL it is easier because of the portal. "Tampering" is the new normal.
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...about players being recruited (tampered with) before they hit the portal. Like the other poster said, you can say it over and over, but that doesn't make it true.
I disagree with that take. Subs “spell” the starters when they take a breath or during mop up time. 52 offensive plays is significantly under our typical number (70+??), and unfortunately the “mop up” time belonged to Georgia’s bench. I think it’s highly likely that a team’s starters play 50+ snaps in a typical game.
I have to agree with you bc, when a coach with a team like Smart has, once he sees you are playing a lot of reserves that's what they will do bc they have players also that could use some playing time. Once he was aware that Dabo was doing that, he would've done the same. That would have been a good time to test your 2nd and 3d level guys with theirs!!!
I feel like there will probably be some actions coming down in the next few years to programs with regards to tampering. The NCAA would punish you for sending too many texts to a recruit and I feel sure they will crack down on this (with limited scholarships or something more intense hopefully).
All of the transfer and NIL stuff is a bubble and it is going to pop and leave behind a tax code thick rule book and changes.
I think that is why they are using outside "representatives" to not create a direct paper trail from the universities. I would love to know how ND seemed to have their last 2 portal QBs wrapped up (from Wake & Duke) almost immediately after they entered the portal.
The transfer portal isn't nearly as dirty as many people make it out to be. Sure, there is tampering in some instances, but the overwhelming majority of players in the transfer portal - and the teams that pursue them - are doing it legally.
It's a made up excuse to justify Dabo refusing to use the portal because he doesn't want to.
The reality is that there are plenty of great players in the portal who are also good guys who can be obtained legally and without paying large sums of money.
We have a top 5 talent level nationally due to our high school recruiting, so we have proven that we can get really great players. Recruiting the transfer portal isn't much different, except the players are older.
If you are suggesting that it takes underhanded tactics to get good players from the portal, then you are implying that it also takes those underhanded tactics to get good players from high school. Is that what you're saying?
It actually do require cheating and big bucks. Go back and read my post for the past two seasons and I have been singing this very same song. Most Portal guys couldn't come to Clemson and start over the talent that we already have, and for Dabo to bring the elite guys that could start for Clemson, they cost an awful lot of money. That is the very reason they left wherever they were and starting, but they hit the portal bc they have learned they can get much more for their value from the portal.
The other song that I've been singing since this portal thing came alive is this, if IPTAY members and our regular day in and day out none IPTAY members are willing to donate a lot of money, we'll never see Dabo waste a scholarship for portal players that couldn't possibly come to Clemson and start, and never even become a second string player.
All the folks that are blasting Dabo for his refusal to use the portal, hear this, Dabo isn't refusing to use the portal, he is refusing to cheat just to get a starter player out of the portal, and personally I hope that he never will stoop that low and jeopardize Clemson with the NCAA rules committee and have Clemson put on years of probation.
Dabo has never been a cheater and that means he don't know how to cheat well enough to get away with it like a lot of these schools are doing. Winning isn't worth cheating when you know that you're not good enough at cheating to get away with it!!!
yea, ok. keep your head in the sand all you want. The bag man was real 10 years ago and he's there now just a little differently now. Sure, there's plenty of players in the portal but the really good guys have already been guaranteed big money from the school they end up at before they even declare they are transferring. Most of the rest wouldn't be an upgrade to what is already on Clemson's roster.
I'm saying that Dabo shouldn't risk cheating and continue to get our players from HS recruiting the way that he has always done... If you can't cheat as well as the old time cheaters, you better keep your hand out of that bowl, and if you don't, you will surely get slapped with a thick wooden spoon!!!
I think that might be true for basketball but not for football. The dollars in football have become so big that every competitive advantage created (whether legal or not) is driven by large financial incentives to those playing that game.
Your statement might be true once you get past the 5-10% of elite players in the portal, but those are the ones where the games are being played which I believe TL was also pointing out. His point was, if you aren't willing to do what everyone else is doing to get the cream of the crop then the rest may not really be that much better than what you already have, except in some of those rare opportunities where maybe you get a couple at good value and without playing games.
This analyst makes a good, strong, and likely accurate point regarding the portal and Clemson (and any perennial top 25 team): 98% of the players have less skill/talent than what you already have. The pool of elite prospects is very small, and many of those already know where they’re going before they enter the portal (with tampering being at least part of that). Still, I hope we will be more aggressive in utilizing this method in the future to “plug” small needs that arise…..hopefully that doesn’t translate to more than a couple a year.
Good article. People that blame a coach or blame Cade are just sticking their heads in the sand. Both sides of the ball(all 11) are responsible and must play well or we cannot beat a team as good as Georgia and will struggle against several other teams this year. When the offense clicks and the defense dominates, we will be the Clemson everyone wants.
Precisely Ride The Defense until.... See that's the Real 800lb Gorilla in the Room🤔 Cade IS DJ2.0 🌞 So with that said let us see All (3) QB's This Saturday 🌞 And whoever Lifts his Teammates gets the Start Next Week? Cade Just IS NOT Confident Under Fire....It's Obvious🌞
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Once again Clemson and Dabo have the highest player graduation rate in CFB. That's a tremendous accomplishment to me. If you start bringing in 10 kids a year from the portal for one or two years that ranking is greatly diminished. Georgia is something like a 40% grad rate. Love football enough to have this happen where Clemson is the standard for such a great stat ? We'll be fine without portal players.
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